Ask A Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer (No AMoL Spoilers)

[Terez]

So the only connecting clue is to be Mayene geographical closeness to the last known whereabouts of Hawkwing's daughter? It's plausible, I suppose.

It's not the only connecting clue. It's just the one that invokes the Razor.

For the benefit of those of us who haven't read the Guide, do you mind telling me what the other clues were?

Mostly just the stuff we've already discussed. The quote that Luckers gave above also happens to mention the fact that the records agree that Hawkwing had no heirs:

 

While the Firsts of Mayene claim descent from Hawkwing, through a grandson named Tyrn, there is no evidence that any of Hawkwing’s blood survived him, and all surviving contemporary records state clearly that none did. On the other hand, given the state of affairs after Hawkwing’s death, any living descendant of Hawkwing would have been hidden away as a matter of safety.

The language here is strong - ALL contemporary records state CLEARLY that none of Hawkwing's heirs survived. Going back a little bit, we see why:

 

Hawkwing met Tamika late in FY 964 on his return from the Aiel Waste and married her one year later. Several sources speak of the Tamika Poems, saying that they showed a man every bit as much in love as in the Amaline Poems, but of course none of them survive. Tamika can certainly be credited for Hawkwing’s return to his earlier policies toward the conquered lands, possibly for several refinements in administration and taxation added after FY 965, and thus in large part for Hawkwing’s reputation as a great ruler. Their first son, Luthair Paendrag Mondwin, was born in FY 967. They had either three more children or four, but we know almost nothing of them. At least two of those children were daughters, for one commanded the “Shara expedition,” and a partial letter in the Royal Library in Cairhien says that “the great Hawkwing died less than an hour before the news arrived of the tragic deaths of his daughter Laiwynde and her son, the last of Hawkwing’s blood this side of the oceans.” Tamika herself died in FY 987; there is no record of the cause.

It is assumed that only Luthair's heirs survived, and this only because they know of the Seanchan. (In other words, these are some pretty dumb historians.) Going back a little more, we get the account of the Shara expedition:

 

Perhaps this brief war with the Trollocs made the martial juices rise again in Hawkwing, or perhaps the death of his second wife, Tamika, from unrecorded causes the autumn after Talidar reminded him of his own mortality. There is evidence that he began massive planning in the winter of FY 989. In FY 992, a force of incredible dimensions (sources vary widely, but a typical one claims two thousand ships of all sizes carrying over three hundred thousand soldiers and settlers) sailed into the Aryth Ocean from the western ports, under the command of Hawkwing’s son, Luthair Paendrag Mondwin. Its destination was Seanchan. Surely the world had never seen such a fleet, yet the following year Hawkwing sent out another, reportedly of equal size, from the southern ports. Much less is known of this fleet than of that led by Luthair Paendrag, only its destination was the lands known as Shara, among other names, and that it was under the command of a daughter of Hawkwing. The fate of the Seanchan expedition is all too well known, now, but of the Shara expedition there is only silence, beyond a few stories of the sort told in village taverns, claiming that Hawkwing conquered “lands beyond the Aiel Waste.” Sea Folk ships’ logs of that time do show that the landings were observed on the coast of Shara in FY 993. Other logs report seeing large numbers of ships burning in late FY 994, primarily in the same bays where the initial landings were recorded.

So, with barely any evidence worth mentioning, they assume that Hawkwing's daughter died in Shara. The beginnings of Mayene are apparently shrouded in some mystery as well, and there is no commentary on the grandson Tyrn, which makes it likely that his name wasn't recorded at all. The historians assume it was one of the unnamed grandchildren - two quotes above makes it clear the historians didn't even know the gender of all of his children, or how many there were, but the contemporary historians recorded the death of all the heirs save Luthair and the daughter who went to Shara. Clearly, that daughter had a son named Tyrn, and thus began the line of Mayene.

 

Like I said, the geographical location is far from the only clue. It's just the one that makes the evidence convincing.

 

Also, it's possible to put together from the above quotes that Ishamael was certainly behind all of this, probably including the deaths of his last living heirs. The coincidence on the timing is too much to ignore. It was important to Ishamael to destroy that empire:

 

"I whispered in Artur Hawkwing's ear, and the length and breadth of the land Aes Sedai died. I whispered again, and the High King sent his armies across the Aryth Ocean, across the World Sea, and sealed two dooms. The doom of his dream of one land and one people, and a doom yet to come. At his deathbed I was there when his councilors told him only Aes Sedai could save his life. I spoke, and he ordered his councilors to the stake. I spoke, and the High King's last words were to cry that Tar Valon must be destroyed."

Back to the BWB, we can see exactly when Ishamael started hanging about:

 

Very little is known of Moerad, though he appears in several sources, most notably in letters gathered in the Terhana Library in Bandar Eban. In FY 973 he appeared in Hawkwing’s court, making his first entry into history. Many at the time wondered about his background, and some who inquired too closely into it may have suffered fatal accidents. It is noted that Tamika was icily cold toward Moerad, if always correct, yet although Hawkwing trusted her counsel, by the late summer of FY 974 Moerad was one of the High King’s closest advisors. He maintained this position until Hawkwing’s death despite frequent long absences, a volatile temper, and a temperament that more than one observer recorded as “more than half insane.”

 

It is on that proximity of dates (late summer, Moerad became a counselor; early autumn, Hawkwing dismissed Aes Sedai from his service) and the startling fact that Moerad seemed openly contemptuous of Aes Sedai that all theories concerning him rest. Contempt is an odd stance toward Aes Sedai, and even those who hate Aes Sedai are wise enough to be discreet; yet such feelings are hardly enough to condemn him.

 

A partial manuscript (private collection in Andor), dated some twenty-three years after Hawkwing’s death, builds on these shaky facts. According to the writer, within days of Hawkwing’s demise Moerad was advising Marithelle Camaelaine. When she was assassinated, he supposedly began advising Norodim Nosokawa (again within days), and immediately after Nosokawa’s death in battle, Moerad appeared at Elfraed Guitama’s side. As these three came the closest to seizing the whole of Hawkwing’s empire in the twenty years after his death, Moerad obviously either was an advisor of great skill or a man with a keen eye for a winner. How these things are supposed to tie into responsibility for Hawkwing turning against Aes Sedai is unfortunately among the missing portions of the manuscript. An odd note: The writer claims that Moerad never aged from the day he first appeared to the day he vanished, abruptly, some forty years later. What that says of the source’s veracity is left to the reader.

When the planning for the expeditions began, Hawkwing had been under Ishamael's influence for 16 years. And then of course, there's this from Ishamael's bio, way back in the beginning of the book:

 

When the Dragon led the final strike against the Dark at Shayol Ghul, Ishamael may have been in some way only partially trapped by the seal on the Bore, leaving him aware and able to touch the world while the others slept within the seal - this according to a recently discovered tern manuscript attributed to Aran son of Malan son of Senar (born circa 50 AB). The manuscript, which was apparently incomplete at Aran’s death, is based largely on letters and diaries which Aran attributed to Aes Sedai who had lived during the Breaking of the World itself. These writings (unfortunately represented today only by small quotations within the manuscript) claim that there were sightings of, even encounters with, Ishamael after the bore was sealed, in fact perhaps as much as forty years after. In no case were the sightings by the women who wrote the diaries, but Aran apparently trusted them implicitly.

 

Such claims might be thought ridiculous except that Aran is known to have been a writer of strict honesty, one who never cited a source that he could not verify (though both his sources and the verification are long lost to us). He speculated (citing other lost sources) that it may have taken some years for Ishamael to be drawn fully into the trap with the other Forsaken. If this was so, it seemed possible that Ishamael might well be thrown out of the prison holding the others and drawn back again on some regular cycle. During his lifetime Aran made observations based on cycles of various multiples of forty years without discovering any indications that one of the Forsaken was loose in the world at those intervals.

 

The last pages of the manuscript suggest that Aran had become doubtful of his own thesis, but we have evidence that he may have been right. Interviews with imprisoned Darkfriends revealed that a number of them received instructions from Ishamael long before the other Forsaken were freed (an event generally agreed to have occurred in 997 or 998 NE, and to have been caused by the gradual weakening of the seals). Some claim to have received instructions from him as early as 983 NE, when plainly the seals were still strong enough to hold the others.

 

It seems entirely likely that Ishamael could have been free in still earlier times, and that the cycle was merely longer than Aran could observe. Certainly two periods of the greatest upheaval humanity has known since the Breaking of the World, the Trolloc Wars and the War of the Hundred Years, would be likely times for one of the Forsaken to be free and working his malevolence. During the Trolloc Wars the name Ba'alzamon, later claimed by Ishamael, was used by a paramount leader, and later by other Dreadlords. No such connection exists during the War of the Hundred Years, but it is hardly impossible given the other evidence. Perhaps some future researcher will determine whether Ishamael was in fact responsible for those two disasters to humankind.

And of course, we are those brilliant researchers who have finally figured it all out.

 

The reason why so much effort was put into this business might possibly have something to do with the Seanchan plotline. Like Moiraine said, 'If the Dark One wants a thing, I oppose it. Can there be a simpler reason, or a better?' The Shadow wanted to destroy Hawkwing's dream of one land and one people because the Dark One wanted the world to be weak when the time came. And as minor as Berelain seems, she is a rather well-developed character. It's like the whole Berelain-Faile competition was just an excuse to keep her around and in the spotlight. I don't doubt that she will join the Imperial Family. How could we doubt that, after this?

 

"Serving girl? Serving girl! I am —" Faile bit her tongue to stop the furious words. The First of Mayene, indeed. There were estates in Saldaea larger than Mayene. She would not last a week in the courts of Saldaea. Could she recite poetry while hawking? Could she ride in the hunt all day, then play the bittern at night while discussing how to counter Trolloc raids? She thought she knew men, did she? Did she know the language of fans? Could she tell a man to come or go or stay, and a hundred things more, all with the twist of a wrist and the placement of a lace fan? Light shine on me, what am I thinking? I swore I would never even hold a fan again! But there were other Saldaean customs. She was surprised to see the knife in her hand; she had been taught not to draw a knife unless she meant to use it. "Farm girls in Saldaea have a way of dealing with women who poach others' men. If you do not swear to forget Perrin Aybara, I will shave your head as bald as an egg. Perhaps the boys who tend the chickens will pant after you, then!"

Only the Imperial Family shaves their heads completely. And Tuon is of course planning on re-filling the ranks of the Imperial Family. No doubt she would prefer an actual descendant of Hawkwing:

 

Galgan was a wide-shouldered fellow with a crest of white hair atop his head. The other members of the Blood deferred to him; they knew he had her favor. If things went well here and with the reclamation of Seanchan, there was a good chance she'd raise him to the Imperial family. The ranks of the family would need to be refilled, after all, once Fortuona returned and restored order. Undoubtedly, many had been assassinated or executed. Galgan was a valuable ally. He'd not only worked openly against Suroth, but had suggested the assault on the White Tower, which had gone well. Extremely well.

Perhaps Mayene has secret histories, and Berelain is aware that they are descended from the daughter sent to Shara. Perhaps there are no secret histories, but she figured it out on her own. Perhaps someone like Balwer will figure it out. But it will undoubtedly come into play in AMOL. I think the Shara element is necessary because the contemporary records are so clear on the fact that none of Hawkwing's heirs survived him.

Edited March 9, 2011 by Terez

[vanceme]

Strictly speaking, Lanfear did it for him (at least on the way out from Randland).

DId she? Rand and co slept next to the portal stone, and the last thing Rand remembers before sleeping is the flickering light of saidin. Its possible he was channeling as he began to fall asleep, into the portal stone, and that lanfear just followed him.

Granted, I don't have definitive proof, but it fits better. First, the whole thing was just too convenient for her. Second, Verin seemed to believe he couldn't have done that in his sleep. Third, it took everything he had to get them back to Cairhien; I doubt he could've done it and not be aware that he did something.

 

Egwene dreams of a woman standing over Rand, and then a flash of light, and he disappears. She then stops dreaming of him, almost as if he's... gone... I took that to mean Lanfear sent him. Reason? To see if he could get himself back. Both a means of judging his current control and a way to force him to use the power. Poor Rand everyone and their Mother were looking for ways to make him use the power in the first few books

[Callern]

I just wondered, where are the placed you can not go in T'A'R? Rhuidean is one, but the others?

 

And is there a theory thread on T'A'R anybody could link me? (Did not find one when I searched)

[konkoivu]

I just wondered, where are the placed you can not go in T'A'R? Rhuidean is one, but the others?

 

And is there a theory thread on T'A'R anybody could link me? (Did not find one when I searched)

IIRC steddings are no-go-zone.

[yoniy0]

So is the Blight.

 

What about the World of Dreams do you want to discuss?

[Callern]

Thanks, but why would the Blight be a no-go?

 

What about the World of Dreams do you want to discuss?

 

I'm just wondering about the importance of T'A'R, is it more to it than what meets the eye?

As Perrin is training and all, might this imply that T'A'R is somehow important in the LB?

[dholm]

As far as I've been able to find, it's never said that you cannot enter the Blight while in Tel'aran'rhiod. Could be missing something, though.

[Woolhead Prime]

Hello, not sure I should post this on the end of here, rather than make a new thread, but here goes anyway :)

 

*SPOLIERS FOR UP TO END OF tGS*

 

I have been wondering for the last few books (about 200 pages into ToM now, but won't mention any of that here) as to who knows about Rands bond to his 3 Women, I suppose only the 'main' characters. I have got a little confused by this overall. Nynaeve seems to know, but I don't ever recall this being discussed (I would assume the only real chance of this happening would be talking to Min). Cadusune has worked it out (as of CoT). Birgitte I assume also knows via the bond to Elayne. I guess she would keep this a secret, or perhaps tell the wise ones know also. The main point in this though is Nynaeve's knowing, I know she knows but don't recall her ever been told, and wonder if there was a missed announcment or similar. If anyone knows that would be a great help, saving my sanity and the endless web searches (and then I can get on with finishing ToM) :)

 

Cheers!

Edited March 9, 2011 by Woolhead_Prime

[Sharaman]

As far as I've been able to find, it's never said that you cannot enter the Blight while in Tel'aran'rhiod. Could be missing something, though.

Along with the Stedding, the Blight and Finnland (both) are also not accessible via TAR.

Several RJ quotes to that effect - I'm sure one of the experts can dig them out of theoryland.

[White_star]

Hello, not sure I should post this on the end of here, rather than make a new thread, but here goes anyway :)

 

*SPOLIERS FOR UP TO END OF tGS*

 

I have been wondering for the last few books (about 200 pages into ToM now, but won't mention any of that here) as to who knows about Rands bond to his 3 Women, I suppose only the 'main' characters. I have got a little confused by this overall. Nynaeve seems to know, but I don't ever recall this being discussed (I would assume the only real chance of this happening would be talking to Min). Cadusune has worked it out (as of CoT). Birgitte I assume also knows via the bond to Elayne. I guess she would keep this a secret, or perhaps tell the wise ones know also. The main point in this though is Nynaeve's knowing, I know she knows but don't recall her ever been told, and wonder if there was a missed announcment or similar. If anyone knows that would be a great help, saving my sanity and the endless web searches (and then I can get on with finishing ToM) :)

 

Cheers!

I didn't think anyone knew the whole of it except themselves (Rand and the three). Alanna knows he let someONE else bond him but not who. Caddy and maybe Nynaeve may suspect HE bonded Min, and

Eggy suspects Elayne bonded Rand

. I don't think anyone knows about Avi, except maybe Brigitte as you mentioned. Mat maybe the only one to know about Rand's relationship with the three if he stopped to think about it.

 

Have fun in TOM

[Woolhead Prime]

Hello, not sure I should post this on the end of here, rather than make a new thread, but here goes anyway :)

 

*SPOLIERS FOR UP TO END OF tGS*

 

I have been wondering for the last few books (about 200 pages into ToM now, but won't mention any of that here) as to who knows about Rands bond to his 3 Women, I suppose only the 'main' characters. I have got a little confused by this overall. Nynaeve seems to know, but I don't ever recall this being discussed (I would assume the only real chance of this happening would be talking to Min). Cadusune has worked it out (as of CoT). Birgitte I assume also knows via the bond to Elayne. I guess she would keep this a secret, or perhaps tell the wise ones know also. The main point in this though is Nynaeve's knowing, I know she knows but don't recall her ever been told, and wonder if there was a missed announcment or similar. If anyone knows that would be a great help, saving my sanity and the endless web searches (and then I can get on with finishing ToM) :)

 

Cheers!

I didn't think anyone knew the whole of it except themselves (Rand and the three). Alanna knows he let someONE else bond him but not who. Caddy and maybe Nynaeve may suspect HE bonded Min, and

Eggy suspects Elayne bonded Rand

. I don't think anyone knows about Avi, except maybe Brigitte as you mentioned. Mat maybe the only one to know about Rand's relationship with the three if he stopped to think about it.

 

Have fun in TOM

 

Thanks very much for the reply. It was what is in the spoiler that set my off on this latest quest for an answer! I had only really being considering who knew about Min and Rand really as there hasn't been much interaction (pre ToM) between the others. As you rightly say they are only suspicions voiced from Cadusune and later Nynaeve, which of course we know are true!

 

Thanks again, having a lot of fun with ToM

[Terez]

lol. You guys must have missed this bit:

 

"Rand al'Thor," Nynaeve shrieked, "that is the most outrageous thing I ever heard out of your mouth! The very idea of telling three women you love them! You're worse than a lecher! You apologize right now!" Lan had snatched his pipe from his mouth and was staring at Rand.

[Woolhead Prime]

lol. You guys must have missed this bit:

 

"Rand al'Thor," Nynaeve shrieked, "that is the most outrageous thing I ever heard out of your mouth! The very idea of telling three women you love them! You're worse than a lecher! You apologize right now!" Lan had snatched his pipe from his mouth and was staring at Rand.

 

Thanks for the reply. This is from WH:12, A lily in Winter? Isn't this the conversation they have before the bonding ceremony talking about love and marriage, Elayne says lets go to our rooms so as not to be bothered by Nynaeve and Lan as she feared Nynaeve would stop them? edit: from bonding with Rand.

 

Cheers

Edited March 9, 2011 by Woolhead_Prime

[AvroChris]

lol. You guys must have missed this bit:

 

"Rand al'Thor," Nynaeve shrieked, "that is the most outrageous thing I ever heard out of your mouth! The very idea of telling three women you love them! You're worse than a lecher! You apologize right now!" Lan had snatched his pipe from his mouth and was staring at Rand.

 

Thanks for the reply. This is from WH:12, A lily in Winter? Isn't this the conversation they have before the bonding ceremony talking about love and marriage, Elayne says lets go to our rooms so as not to be bothered by Nynaeve and Lan as she feared Nynaeve would stop them? edit: from bonding with Rand.

 

Cheers

 

True, but Nynaeve likely knows about the bond to Min, and she knows about Elayne's pregnancy too so she could probably put two and two together (or one and three :P).

[yoniy0]

Thanks, but why would the Blight be a no-go?

As far as I've been able to find, it's never said that you cannot enter the Blight while in Tel'aran'rhiod. Could be missing something, though.

As Sharaman says, the Creator said so:

A Crown of Swords book tour 9 October 1996, Dunwoody, GA - Erica Sadun reporting

Blight: you can not enter it from Tel'aran'rhiod because it is apart from NORMAL UNIVERSE and can not be touched. The Blight is not part of the normal universe.

 

but Nynaeve likely knows about the bond to Min, and she knows about Elayne's pregnancy too so she could probably put two and two together (or one and three :P).

I disagree. Everyone in Rand's group suspect that he Bonded her, not the other way around. Why would Nynaeve suspect the truth, unless she shares Egwene's suspicion after their talk in ToM?

[Woolhead Prime]

but Nynaeve likely knows about the bond to Min, and she knows about Elayne's pregnancy too so she could probably put two and two together (or one and three :P).

I disagree. Everyone in Rand's group suspect that he Bonded her, not the other way around. Why would Nynaeve suspect the truth, unless she shares Egwene's suspicion after their talk in ToM?

 

Thanks again for the replies everyone, all good points to be considered

[yoniy0]

I'm just wondering about the importance of T'A'R, is it more to it than what meets the eye?

As Perrin is training and all, might this imply that T'A'R is somehow important in the LB?

I couldn't find a structured discussion topic, and no other topic comes to mind. Have at it and open a new one.

[David Selig]

Nynaeve spent 3 days trying to convince Min to use the bond to tell where Rand was after his Dragonmount epiphany and was refused repeatedly, which reallt frustrated her. If Nynaeve had suspected Elayne had bonded Rand, she would've gone to Caemlyn to ask her for help locating him.

[Terez]

lol. You guys must have missed this bit:

 

"Rand al'Thor," Nynaeve shrieked, "that is the most outrageous thing I ever heard out of your mouth! The very idea of telling three women you love them! You're worse than a lecher! You apologize right now!" Lan had snatched his pipe from his mouth and was staring at Rand.

 

Thanks for the reply. This is from WH:12, A lily in Winter? Isn't this the conversation they have before the bonding ceremony talking about love and marriage, Elayne says lets go to our rooms so as not to be bothered by Nynaeve and Lan as she feared Nynaeve would stop them? edit: from bonding with Rand.

Indeed. But she knows of the relationship between the three of them. She would probably have figured out the bond thing a long time ago if the subject didn't repulse her so much.

 

Also, Mat doesn't know about Min, unless someone happened to tell him, which I doubt. He was taken away right after Falme and likely doesn't remember much aside from the battle itself. Min wasn't at the Stone, and he had left the Tower before she got there. And then Rand sent him away in early LOC before Rand hooked up with Min in Caemlyn when the rebel embassy showed up, and when he took Mat to Salidar he of course had Aviendha with him, but not Min. So Mat and Min haven't even seen each other since Falme, which Mat probably doesn't remember, and before that, he only saw her at the Stag and Lion.

[capuga]

lol. You guys must have missed this bit:

 

"Rand al'Thor," Nynaeve shrieked, "that is the most outrageous thing I ever heard out of your mouth! The very idea of telling three women you love them! You're worse than a lecher! You apologize right now!" Lan had snatched his pipe from his mouth and was staring at Rand.

 

Thanks for the reply. This is from WH:12, A lily in Winter? Isn't this the conversation they have before the bonding ceremony talking about love and marriage, Elayne says lets go to our rooms so as not to be bothered by Nynaeve and Lan as she feared Nynaeve would stop them? edit: from bonding with Rand.

Indeed. But she knows of the relationship between the three of them. She would probably have figured out the bond thing a long time ago if the subject didn't repulse her so much.

 

Also, Mat doesn't know about Min, unless someone happened to tell him, which I doubt. He was taken away right after Falme and likely doesn't remember much aside from the battle itself. Min wasn't at the Stone, and he had left the Tower before she got there. And then Rand sent him away in early LOC before Rand hooked up with Min in Caemlyn when the rebel embassy showed up, and when he took Mat to Salidar he of course had Aviendha with him, but not Min. So Mat and Min haven't even seen each other since Falme, which Mat probably doesn't remember, and before that, he only saw her at the Stag and Lion.

 

But Mat has seen Rand and Min naked together in his ta'veren color swirling visions.

[Terez]

Ohhh, yeah! Thanks for reminding me.

[Sharaman]

Anybody who knows something about OP and AS-warder bonds and knows about the Min-Rand bond will wonder what exactly happened since Min is not a channeler.

Maybe Cadsuane, Merise, & co. write it off as Rand having bonded Min rather than the other way around.

Mat knows about the Min-Rand relationship; I don't think he knows about the bonding unless Elayne/ Brigitte told him off-screen.

Do the WOs know about Avi's bond with Rand? Most probably - they were around in the Caemlyn Palace and they could simply have ordered her to tell them what on Earth was going on with that weird usage of OP, if they felt it.

[Aquarius]

Anybody who knows something about OP and AS-warder bonds and knows about the Min-Rand bond will wonder what exactly happened since Min is not a channeler.

Maybe Cadsuane, Merise, & co. write it off as Rand having bonded Min rather than the other way around.

Mat knows about the Min-Rand relationship; I don't think he knows about the bonding unless Elayne/ Brigitte told him off-screen.

Do the WOs know about Avi's bond with Rand? Most probably - they were around in the Caemlyn Palace and they could simply have ordered her to tell them what on Earth was going on with that weird usage of OP, if they felt it.

Rand's bonds:

- Alanna bonded Rand

- Elayne bonded Birgitte

- Avi and Elayne adopted eachother as first sisters (thanks Amys)

- Elayne/Avi created an Aiel sort of bond (the same kind Amys did for her and Avi) between Rand/Avi/Elayne/Min).

 

So Min didn't "bond" Rand no more than Rand "bonded" Min. Elayne and Avi together created the weave that included all 4 of them. It's not "the other way around", it's a real four-some bond going all direction. All four feel the three others. With a bit of Birgitte and Alanna in the mix.

[Arc]

Will Dragonmount errupt before the end? .. I know there aint no certain answer for it, but there'll be opinions and thoughts or such, no?

 

Personally I thougth it would came to that first time reading the title of FoH, .. but no.

I expeted it at least to start rumbling as of TGS or ToM. Ah well, DM still has time in aMoL.

[Aquarius]

Will Dragonmount errupt before the end? .. I know there aint no certain answer for it, but there'll be opinions and thoughts or such, no?

 

Personally I thougth it would came to that first time reading the title of FoH, .. but no.

I expeted it at least to start rumbling as of TGS or ToM. Ah well, DM still has time in aMoL.

I'm not sure it would fit in the story. What purpose would it accomplish ? would it fulfill any prophecy ?