Ok the good ones win ....Then what?

[CALDAZAR]

Let's assume that TG is over.

The DO  dead , Rand  dead , Randland  devastated ,his troops largely diminished ,  White Tower weakened or broken , Ashaman free . Even if the Dragon Reborn is alive noone needs him (no DO anymore) .

My guess is that everyone (and I mean everyone )will try to seize as much as possible . Conflicts will spread everwhere ......

Winner?

The Seanchan Empire . Fewer loses during TG (biggest battles almost certainly at Randland ) , well-trained  fleet , thousands of war trained channelers , centralised command of war .

So , everyone comes to Daughter of Nine Moons as Empress of the world

 

[CUBAREY]

a couple of points.

 

First the DO will not be dead, the best that can be hoped for is that the bore into his prison is completely repaired and not merely repatched.

 

Second, and most important. The Seanchen in Randland will likely take part in TG and suffer proportionate casualties. Moreover, the Seanchen Continent is in total revolt and chaos. Thus, while Tuon will have a base from which to expand (abu Dar, Tarabon, Aldemacia) she will not be in much better shape then the Andorans, the Saldean's, Tear, ot even Illian.  It's likely going to be a free for all with former allies becoming adversaries and former adversaries becoming allied.  The "Battle" will be over but the fighting will continue.

[CatinaSedai]

it seems like the wheel of time offers balance. good cant exist without evil nor can evil exist without good.  if good wins, then the wheel will create stronger beings to defeat them.  i think that rand and nynaeve and egwene were created because the chosen were breaking out of the bore and they needed balance.

[Cockta]

No, then I come as the president of the Terran forces with an enormous fleet of battlecruisers and other spacecraft. I come with thousnads of tanks, millions of marines and hundreds of SCV's so I can build up my bases. I basically start with Randland and begin to take over the entire world from there.

 

Well, I am allowed to imagine scenarios  :D

[Mr Ares]

No, then I come as the president of the Terran forces with an enormous fleet of battlecruisers and other spacecraft. I come with thousnads of tanks, millions of marines and hundreds of SCV's so I can build up my bases. I basically start with Randland and begin to take over the entire world from there.

 

Well, I am allowed to imagine scenarios  :D

Then I come along, bring your empire to its knees and cut off its head. Without spaceships, tanks, millions of troops etc.

 

So , everyone comes to Daughter of Nine Moons as Empress of the world

Except Mat, who has already stated her empire is his enemy. In addition to CUBAREY'S  points, the Seanchan will have to deal with one of the best generals the Westlands have to offer. And backed up by anyone who doesn't much fancy losing their autonomy to Seanchan rule.

[Cockta]

Except that Rand would not allow Mat to go on a killing spree, unless it is trollocs and other shadowspawn. Rand wants to make everyone fight the Shadow, and not fight amongst themselves.

[Joebiwan]

No, then I come as the president of the Terran forces with an enormous fleet of battlecruisers and other spacecraft. I come with thousnads of tanks, millions of marines and hundreds of SCV's so I can build up my bases. I basically start with Randland and begin to take over the entire world from there.

 

Well, I am allowed to imagine scenarios  :D

 

Yeah, but the I come along with my zerglings...

 

I do know that Robert Jordan had some books planned for after the series finish about some characters. I think. Anyone know anything about those?

[Majsju]

 

Yeah, but the I come along with my zerglings...

 

I do know that Robert Jordan had some books planned for after the series finish about some characters. I think. Anyone know anything about those?

 

RJ had a story planned for Mat and Tuon about ten years after TG, and that is about all we know.

[Guest Ravik]

Rand is not going to die, Lews Therin will. I expect a sort of blitzkrieg on SG, no big battle, some kind of a shock unit led by Rand with Mat and Perrin along with a few Asha'man and Aes Sedai, like in the Age of Legends. During the strike Rand is going to get seriously hurt, perhaps his hearth is going to stop beating for a minute, somebody's gonna revive him and that's that. He's going to live and rule his land.

As for the Seanchan, doesn't it say in some prophecy that the nine moons are going to serve the Dragon Reborn?

[Cockta]

Not that I have heard of. I have heard in the Seanchan prophecy that the Dragon Reborn will kneel to the Crystal Throne, and not the other way around.

 

Besides, Lews Therin brought a couple of more male channelers than "a few", and he had tens of thousands of troops, IIRC.

[Generic Aelfinn #2]

Randland prophecy: "and he will bind the nine moons to him"

 

Seanchan prophecy: "he will kneel to the Crystal Throne"

 

 

quotes aren't exact, but they get the point across.

[Cockta]

I thought the binding of the nine moons to him was Mats prophecy? Well, now that I remember, I know there was something for both, I think, but I only think, I am not quite sure yet. Just thinking out loud.

[Majsju]

Rand: "What does it mean that he shall bind the nine moons to serve him?". From the Karaethon cycle.

 

Mat: To marry the daughter of the Nine Moons, part of what the Aelfinn told him.

[CatinaSedai]

who do you all think will live and who will die?  i think mat will make it but tom merrilin may not and i kinda think rand will either die or become the dark one and perrin will have to kill him.

[Sabio]

What will happen is the cycle will start over and a new age begun.  No major war after since almost everyone is going to be spent from the last battle and alot of folks will be dead. Things will start to improve since the Dark One's touch will start to fade from the world.  Folks will start to rebuild and the memory of the Darkone will fade until no one remembers his prison so it can be bored into someday and it all starts again.  If I remember right that is what Herid Fel started to get at before he was killed.

 

I predict most the main folks will live.  But still crossing my fingers a trolloc will eat Faile.

 

Min I bet bites it and it is her death that makes Rand cry thus not being so hard everyone keeps complaining to him about.

[Fryn]

What will happen is the cycle will start over and a new age begun.  No major war after since almost everyone is going to be spent from the last battle and alot of folks will be dead. Things will start to improve since the Dark One's touch will start to fade from the world.  Folks will start to rebuild and the memory of the Darkone will fade until no one remembers his prison so it can be bored into someday and it all starts again.  If I remember right that is what Herid Fel started to get at before he was killed.

 

 

Wrong =p You can see this from a few areas. First this fortelling, "... The great battle done, but the world not done with battle. The land divided by the return, and the guardians balance out the servants. The future teeters on the edge of a blade." Basically saying that after TG the world will be in turmoil and full of battles.

 

This is also seen by the fact that Cain has been spun out by the pattern, but will not help in TG. The pattern needs him after TG within the next 50 years or so. Likewise I get teh feeling that avi's children might be the rebirth of the hero twins that signify the start of a new age (this would explain why Min finds something strange about them, since they already have souls). but no short answer is after TG there will be lots of conflict.

 

You can also take that RJ was planning an outrigger series with Mat and Tuon 10 years after to show there will likely be conflicts for at least some parts of randland in teh coming future.

[Sabio]

Most likely the majority of the fights will be like after the bore was sealed and the forsaken trapped.  The enemy was still out there and the remaining dreadlords had to be dealt with.  Same here, once Rand wins TG, the forces of darkness won't just vanish but will need to be finished.

 

But as for then nations fighting each other??  Just can't see anyone in any shape for stiring up trouble.  Aiel we know are going to get decimated, the Black Tower in flames (plus it clear with Taim there will be Ash'aman fighting Ash'aman), Seanchan empire currently in turmoil (Tuon will have to go back and deal with putting things back together)and sure they going to take some heavy losses in the last battle. The White tower will have to suffer great losses from the black ajah and being in the heart of the fighting, the nations now are in no shape for anything since most can't control all the territory they claim now and after will be in less shape to go after one another.  Sure the Sea Folk will want their islands back and possible some people will try to oust the Seanchan from their lands.  My money is on the Sharaians will decide after sitting out the fight they will take it all over. :D  But like the dark ones hold slowly built causing chaos to slowly come with his loss his influence will slowly vanish reducing the strife. 

[Mr Ares]

Except that Rand would not allow Mat to go on a killing spree, unless it is trollocs and other shadowspawn. Rand wants to make everyone fight the Shadow, and not fight amongst themselves.

After TG. Rand may not even be around. Furthermore, they are not going to sit back and let the Seanchan conquer them, no matter what Rand says.

 

i kinda think rand will become the dark one

Not going to happen.

 

But still crossing my fingers a trolloc will eat Faile.

Not going to happen.

 

Most likely the majority of the fights will be like after the bore was sealed and the forsaken trapped. The enemy was still out there and the remaining dreadlords had to be dealt with. Same here, once Rand wins TG, the forces of darkness won't just vanish but will need to be finished.

There weren't any Dreadlords until 1,000 years after the end of the Breaking. And the fighting after the Sealing of the Bore dragged on for more than 40 years. It was only the Breaking that finally ended it.

[Guest Ravik]

Min I bet bites it and it is her death that makes Rand cry thus not being so hard everyone keeps complaining to him about.

This is posible... Though, I think Elayne is giong to die during childbirth. You know how Min says that her babys are going to be healthy but she can't say anything about Elayne apart from that. Could this be because Elayne is going to die delivering them?

[Sabio]

I wish, couldn't be that lucky.  Top 4 people I would love to see die

 

1. Faile

2. Perrin

3. Nynaeve

4. Elayne - annoying and deserves it for turning Aviendha into the biggest wuss of an Aiel.

 

Besides if Elyane dies then Brigette bites it to.  Bad enough Brigette is going to get to experience childbirth.  ;D

[Mr Ares]

Likewise I get teh feeling that avi's children might be the rebirth of the hero twins that signify the start of a new age (this would explain why Min finds something strange about them, since they already have souls). but no short answer is after TG there will be lots of conflict.

But it doesn't explain why the souls of twins would be born when Avi is having quadruplets. Wouldn't it make more sense if Elayne's twins were the reincarnations of those twin souls?

 

1. Faile

2. Perrin

Not going to happen.

3. Nynaeve

4. Elayne - annoying and deserves it for turning Aviendha into the biggest wuss of an Aiel.

Almost certainly not going to happen.

 

Besides if Elyane dies then Brigette bites it to. Bad enough Brigette is going to get to experience childbirth. ;D

What's bad about that?

[Fryn]

Likewise I get teh feeling that avi's children might be the rebirth of the hero twins that signify the start of a new age (this would explain why Min finds something strange about them, since they already have souls). but no short answer is after TG there will be lots of conflict.

But it doesn't explain why the souls of twins would be born when Avi is having quadruplets. Wouldn't it make more sense if Elayne's twins were the reincarnations of those twin souls?

What if Avi only has twins... but there are 4 souls, and min is seeing the souls instead of the actual children. I get the feeling we might never know what is so odd about Avi's children though, unless an epilogue is included. There are lots of posibilities about what is up with Avi's babies though. Other options are Min is seeing her babies through Avi, or Avi has someone elses babies.

[Mr Ares]

What if Avi only has twins... but there are 4 souls, and min is seeing the souls instead of the actual children. I get the feeling we might never know what is so odd about Avi's children though, unless an epilogue is included. There are lots of posibilities about what is up with Avi's babies though. Other options are Min is seeing her babies through Avi, or Avi has someone elses babies.

Min wondered whether to tell her [Aviendha] what she had seen while they were all together. Aviendha would have Rand’s babies, too. Four of them at once! Something was odd about that, though. The babies would be healthy, but still something odd.

So, looks like Avi and Rand's babies (Avi is having them after all), and there will be 4. Unless she only means the souls will be healthy?

[Fryn]

Min's ability works by being able to look at the pattern (kinda). When she first saw Bridgette she could see what bridgettes past and future lives had in store for her (this is the start point where from now through the rest of time bridgette will be older than Cain - another reason why this age is different than others!). It might be when Min sees the image of a reborn hero of the horn she sees and echo of the same sort, because currently those souls are residing in TaR.

[Majsju]

Min sees Brigitte as both younger and older than Cain, so nothing has changed there. And oh, Min only sees the future, though RJ seems to have screwed up with her viewing of Taim.