Halloween Mafia - Orista Manor - GAME OVER!!!! (Page 63)

[Barmacral]

Having nothing of any value to add to the game, I am largely posting right now to show that I'm still here.

 

And since I'm here, another favourite from the Evil Overlord list:

 

I will not turn into a snake. It never helps.

[Alys Kinch]

Well, most of my reason for voting damane is now nulled due to dsage saying that wes' death could be very good for us (i thought outsider meant someone from outside the town who couldn't possibly know the evils due to, well, not being from the town)... and the whole idea being spoiled.

 

at this point, just about any vote is as good as another, so... i'll leave it here for now.

[Toy and Minion]

Due to inactivity over the weekend (that I should have predicted) Hour 2 is extended to Monday (Same time).

 

Vote Count:

 

Damane (3): Alys, Tigara, Sven

 

Thorum (1): Leelou

Dark Justice (1): loki redfern

Sorandha (1): Thorum

 

With 17 alive it takes 10 votes to Lynch.

[SBoydW]

sven=me for the newer folks, one of my many past and former, and I guess current names.

[Tigara]

Oh, good. For a minute I'm like,

 

"Who in the world is Sven!?"

 

Much clearer now.

[Kryos]

Never could understand the name changing thing myself. But thanks for the extra day DSage, it's going to be needed, especially with everyone unable to make a decision. This isn't going well at all. :(

[Vemynal]

And I am back!

 

W/e you say kryos but for some reason I'm reading on you hard and you stand out. More so then boyo (who has a point about his play style) and damane (who i think might have just gotten unlucky in her vote)

 

So my vote is for [glow=red,2,300]kryos[/glow]

 

I'm to tired to go search for physical evidence if much is to be had atm but I'll look later once I get some sleep^^ (its 9am here and I've been up since 4am yesterday!!!)

 

 

[Kryos]

Sorry Vemy, but there is no evidence against me, so sorry to say this, but you are wrong about that. And look as hard as you want, there is nothing you can find. Yes, normally I'm about finding information and all that, but anyone with half a brain can see so far there isn't much of anything to go on, and with people being all mum and all that, getting information is an impossibility. But just because I can, unlike what I said last time you said you were using me as a suspect, no right now I don't really view you as one, but you know what....

 

[glow=red,2,300]Vemy[/glow]

 

I figure what the heck, I'll return the favor as what you claim is unfounded at best. You've seen me play one full game and die quickly off in two others, so basing off that as my overall play style is kind of inconceivable as far as I am concerned.

[Kryos]

And I'm sorry, but I'd prefer a random voting on my Vemynal then an unfounded claim that I am going against my normal play styles. I haven't played enough to have a normal play style.

 

And just so people know...

 

Vote Count:

 

Damane (3): Alys, Tigara, Sven

 

Thorum (1): Leelou

Dark Justice (1): loki redfern

Sorandha (1): Thorum

Vemynal (1): Kryos

Kryos  (1): Vemynal

[Dark Justice]

Well. This doesnt really go anywhere, does it?

I dont really think damane is evil, but there is something very fishy about her, that is for sure.

 

For any other candidates Im not sure. Its another hard start of a game. And speially due to the fact that there can be no spamming It seems to be harder without spamming. And I love spam..

[loki redfern]

aye, aspam to that brother

 

Sorry Vemy, but there is no evidence against me, so sorry to say this, but you are wrong about that. And look as hard as you want, there is nothing you can find.

...that has to be possible the most suspicious was of saying your innocent iv ever seen. which infact you dont say, only imply it. but you do say 'well iv covered my tracks pretty well. -insert evil laugh-'

 

also seeing as dark justice is a round then ill [glow=red,2,300]Unvote Dark Justice[/glow]

 

it just seems like your trying a bit hard here so [glow=red,2,300]kryos[/glow]

 

 

[Kryos]

You know redffern, what's humorous there is you are reading too much into what I said. I just said that Vemy claiming he's got things on me is unfounded.  I'm no more innocent than the next person as far as everyone is concerned. Everyone is suspicious of everyone else. It is after all the name of the game.

[Talya]

This is really hard because the people that I won't to vote for aren't on the list of those already there. So do I start another name, or go with one there.

 

I'm still in the mind that Someone from the two groups I mentioned is evil, and the two that stand out most for me are Boyo and Tigs.  :-\ Tigs the most out of those two. He hasn't taken his vote off damane even though the explaination by Dsage was given. It's like his a little bit worried to take it incase that in it's self draws too much suspicion his way.

 

Out of the ones that have been voted for, Thorum seems the most appealing to vote for, he plays aggressively, which could mean anything. Still not sure about Vemy, and I can see why Kryos is looking slightly suspicious as well...grrrr...in fact you all do... ;)

 

For now I'm going for [glow=red,2,300]Tigs[/glow]. As that at least has something behind it...or at least I think it does.

 

 

 

[Kryos]

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow]

 

But anyhow, it all boils down to one thing, tomorrow is the deadline and we need to lynch someone, but who is it going to be? I haven't a clue, do any of you have an idea? You can think me guilty all you want, honestly I don't care. And me walking around not outright saying I'm innocent? That's simple. I don't go proclaiming my innocence for the world to see. Doing that in my opinion just makes one look even guiltier by default, and I'm trying to maintain not looking guilty. And yeah, I  know, this entire post makes me look guiltier I am sure, but honestly, it was needed in my honest opinion.

 

Right now no one can agree on a single person to lynch, and a  lot of people are pretty much absent it seems, and with the spam ban not many say much of anything here either. It has hurt everyone, as not much information has been given out and so everyone is jumping around at anything that they feel is off as an automatic guilt meter which is the wrong way to look at things. Using totally illogical methods to ascertain an conclusion and attempting to pass them off as logical is a completely ludicrous method to attempt to achieve a goal. Honestly, having votes on me doesn't surprise me in the least because I'm about the one who's done most of the talking this game, so no matter what, I'm the one who's theoretically revealed the most about themselves, and therefore comes the voting on me. It has been pointed out about me that I am not playing as my normal self, well, the way I see it, if I can't get past day two of a game, it's kind of hard to decide what my normal playing self is.

 

Everyone is free to jump around like monkeys and make wild flourishes and attempt to get people to see things from their skewed perspective. It is how the game is meant to be played after all, but my only real request is to at least have something to backup your skewed view.

 

Redffern, I give you credit, you at least quoted something I said and attempted to use it against me, I applaud you for that. But then again you and I both know that one doesn't come right out swinging a proclamation of innocence around. If I had done then, everyone would be all over me claiming my guilty status. And so I, like everyone else must tread lightly and carefully choose words to attempt to draw as little information from their wording of things they say as possible. Could I have come out and said I am innocent? Of course, I could. Am I going to? No I'm not. And as I said before, my reasoning is obvious I think and already explained.

 

Talya, I'm only looking suspicious because I'm doing all the talking just about this game so I'm stuck with attempting to be the voice of reason, and unfortunately, more often than not, it appears the force of reason is the one ends up looking the guiltiest.

 

Vemynal, I have taken my vote off you because it was a silly vote and shouldn't have been put on you. You have your beliefs and I have no problem with that. I'd just like to see where this information is that has you believing in my guiltiness to be honest. All I have done for the most part is refrain from voting for the most part, especially on day two because there has been no evidence given at all to really give anyone away for voting on. If my using logic and such seems suspicious to you, then you really don't know anything about how I play.

 

To everyone else, Evils and Innocents alike, everyone wants to win the game, but the game can't progress if you do not participate. I understand some have other obligations and such as opposed to keeping up on this game, but huge lack of participation is mind boggling. I've never seen a game crawl so slowly before. If you want your team to win, you need to participate or else nothing comes of it. Yes, some like to sit in the background and keep from being noticed, but here's a clue for you, doing that generally makes you more susceptible to night kills for the reason that no information given by you means no information given by your death. Everyone needs to give what they can so that their team can win. Lurking in the background only works for so long until you become the highlight of both sides actually. The evils don't want to be found out so they kill those least likely to be connected to them. The innocents tend to lynch the quiet ones because shoot, the only help you are to them is finding out if you are an evil or an innocent so they have a way to keep score.

 

And here in a bit I'll be rereading over the entire thread and doing a search for anything I find suspicious from other people. Just waiting for my boss to go home so I don't have to worry about any interruptions. But once I get done reading, hopefully I'll have something that people can read over and hopefully agree with in a well written assessment. Has this rant been overly done? Probably it has, but such is the way of life.

[Talya]

Actually Kryos, I tought you were quieter than normal, as is Vemy, hence the suspicion. Thorum has been the most outspoken I think, and come up with ideas..not that I neccesarily agree with him, but at least he is.

[Thorum]

I had started to type something, and than redffern started typing much the same.

 

I [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] and [glow=red,2,300]vote Kryos[/glow].

 

Out of the ones that have been voted for' date=' Thorum seems the most appealing to vote for, he plays aggressively, which could mean anything.[/quote']

 

Have I ever played differently?  :P

 

I must say I was hard-temted to keep my vote on Talya for this: talya of all people should know that is my playstyle.

 

The reason I díd change my vote is twofold: firstly, that most other voted-for persons (damane, Tigara and myself) have some arguments that speak for them being innocent. This mainly corresponds to things like playing-style, amount of posts, length of posts, ... . And secondly, that because if we don't reach a decision before half past 10, I think that damane is innocent, the person with most votes dies, and this vote gives her a last straw. I just hope she deserves it. But she's a patented bad-choice maker, and a terrible spammer; both of which she showed here.

 

As to a vote Count:

 

Damane (3): Alys, Tigara, Sven

Kryos (3): Vemynal, Loki, Thorum

 

Thorum (1): Leelou

Tigs (1): Talya

[Kryos]

I have my moments I suppose Talya, but overall, the basis of what I said is what I was trying to get across. But mainly I've been in class all week and such, and just now got started on night shift when I'm really the most active in games.

 

On to other things.

 

Alright, something I noticed, day one, Amethea voted for Loki and never took her vote off of him. Amethea was the Symp. If Loki was mafia, I highly doubt Amethea ever would've put a vote on him. So in my opinion as of right now, Loki is an innocent, or at the very least, not mafia.

 

So, there's one instance of information leakage we can all go by, so that is something good of everything is it not? All hail Loki, the most likely to be innocent at this moment in time.

 

Now as to a guilty party, that is still a tough call to make. But I have made up my mind.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Sorandha[/glow]

And here's the why of it. Upon voting for Ilgross Day 1, Sorandha said she had originally tried a random vote but played Ilgross off as being a better choice to a random vote. And though she was bandwagoning with others making the choice, she tried to pass off her vote as something else claiming she'd been thinking that prior, which is a possibility, but trying to say you aren't bandwagoning when you in fact are is kind of suspect I think.

[Thorum]

had you voted Sory 12 min ago, I'ld have kept my vote there. But I already have a reputation of playing agressively, and switching votes quickly, so I won't.

 

For now.

 

 

 

 

 

You're really making it hard for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm not gonna change back

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ANyone?

[MsDanya]

well, I havent had much new to say in this game at all, so thats why I havent posted anything since we're not allowed to spam.

 

anyways....

 

I did think Damane looked suspicious, but then I always think she does. I can agree that she just have a weird playingstyle.

 

and for the others.. I just dont have the scumfeeling on any of them  :-\

[Sorandha]

Okay, so I'm a little confused (but when am I not?). I guess I don't understand what bandwagoning really means. Being as this is my first mafia game, I had to go off of what I know about "bandwagon" from MMO's, to follow the majority choice because of it's popularity instead of having a real reason of your own.

 

I didn't vote for ilgross because everyone else was voting for him, I voted for him because I had thought he wanted everyone to role reveal; meaning that in my mind I did not perceive it as a "bandwagon" vote. I was and am against role revealing, it only helps the mafia.

 

Yea, I had done a random vote, and it fell on Thorum; I chose not to place that vote because ilgross had already given me a pretty water-tight reason to think he was mafia. I kind of feel "damned if you do, damned if you don't" we're guilty because we vote, we're guilty because we're not participating. Yea, the game is moving slowly and it's terribly frustrating because we have nothing to go on. I don't want to place my vote on anyone because it would be nothing but random because I still don't see any good argument or evidence based on anyone. I'm sorry.

[Kryos]

Yeah Sorandha, that's the problem with games like this, there is no way to make yourself look good. You look guilty no matter what you do. Myself, I would just like to finally live past day two for once in my life, but somehow I don't see that happening which is actually a shame. I'd like to see how much fun getting into the nitty gritty can be having to wipe sweat from the brow in hopes that I make a difference for the innocents to kill off the mafia.

[Vemynal]

Damane (3): Alys, Tigara, Boyo

Kryos (3): Vemynal, Loki, Thorum

Thorum (1): Leelou

Tigs (1): Talya

Soranda(1): Kryos

 

Kryos is only acting odder and odder, its the general opinion i've seen that damane is merely being damane and both of these two are tied for being lynched today.

 

There are 17 people alive which means we need 9 people for a lynch...we have 3 on our biggest two...

 

So i propose we settle this on Kryos or damane! take your pick! And rather then having day forcefully ended by a time limit lets come to a decision...

 

Talya, remember when in your game and i was evil you told me "Yes but they need to learn by playing as well. let them make their choices" (in reference to the other players) and Alys do you remember pming me about being a less aggressive player? this is me now and honest to god you were both right^^ Taking the games a little less seriously has made it a lot more fun^^

 

anyways just thought I'd clear that up sicne peole keep saying I'm posting less :P

 

>.>

 

<.<

 

DON'T JUDGE ME MONKEY!!! (feel better?)

 

I'm gonna go read through kryos' posts and amethea's posts to see if i can fidn anything that gave me my gut feeling but i might not

 

Cya all when I cya^^

[Thorum]

and, most of the times, the 'obvious quilty' are actually innocent. I met this situation twice, where everyone agreed on one person being surtenly quilty, and BOTH times, he was innocent (I think it was chilli in kivam's game, and me in talya's (?) game)

 

[this is a response to kryos and sorandha, and has nothing to do with vemy's post inbetween]

[Toy and Minion]

It's 10 votes to Lynch.  I'm pretty sure I got the numbers right this time.

[Kryos]

DSage, you are the mod, you make the rules regardless.

 

And yes Vemy, time is running out and we need to settle on someone. But does it necessarily need to be one of the top two? Damane hasn't really been around much to defend herself or anything, and myself, well, I talk too much and get heavily winded and it inherently makes me look less innocent which is a shame honestly in my opinion. And I haven't supsected you in the least at all either Vemy regardless of your amount of posting or anything even though it is highly uncharacteristic of you, so why you make your claim, you hypocritically stick with your claim towards me which I find ironic more than anything. No one approaches every game the same. Maybe I have things to hide, maybe I don't, it is anyone's guess. But since we need to settle on someone, here's my theory, don't vote me. Why is that? Here's why.

 

I'm a cop alright? I have the ability to investigate someone at night, and if the person I investigate is evil, I actually have a 50/50 chance of that person dying, and guess who I investigated last night? Amethea. Yes, it looks like a futile attempt to save my skin, take it for what you want, I just take it as getting extremely lucky on a first night investigation. Why did I investigate her? Because of her sticking on Loki regardless of saying things about preferring someone else to vote for. I could've picked anyone, but to me, that was the most supsicious person to go for. There you have it. Take it for what you want. I am revealing this now as I don't know what'll happen between when I get off work and when I get up tomorrow as the time for picking a lynch will be up. I also believe Damane to be innocent and just an unlucky person in all of this. Loki I also believe to be innocent due to Amethea keeping her vote on him and she turned out to be a Sympathizer.