Halloween Mafia - Orista Manor - GAME OVER!!!! (Page 63)

[Kryos]

I'm sorry, but without having a single innocent being night killed, yes Wes was so to speak, it is highly difficult to figure out anything at all. This is about the first time I've seen a night kill go off and have nothing to go off of at all. I went back through all of Amethea's posts and turned up nothing. Wes was for the townie side but shows up evil in findings, so this is kind of a tricky situation we find ourselves in. And right now, I'm not too sure about Damane, though it is a possibility I suppose.

 

As well, Redffern, Did you mean to vote there or not? If so, you forgot to glowy it.

[Talya]

I would hazard a guess that maybe damane was set up, it would be easy, and I think Alys voted for her to see who would jump on the band wagon, and three did quite quickly after, I'm thinking that at least one of these maybe evil. It's not fool proof but just a thought I was going with.

 

As for the crayons Maybe we should ask the mod what were the colour of the crayons of those that dies...though no sure what we could do with this info.. :-\

[loki redfern]

:-[ yes thanks .. i totally forgot i meant to vote then

 

second time lucky:

 

[glow=red,2,300]dark justice[/glow]

[Alys Kinch]

Alys, care to explain further your reasoning for seeing Damane as being an obvious choice to lynch? I'd like a little more clarification on that one if possible, cause I don't see exactly where you are getting that need from.

 

Wes' death appears to be a set up. Not sure if it's a bluff or double bluff, like I said. Not sure if it's aimed at myself or at damane for that matter. Damane could have made a pretend blunder to avoid suspicion for the person that she intended to kill, on top of the "hunch" on day one. Or she could have make a real blunder by voting someone after the fall of night. Don't know. Not going to psychoanalize. Could have been someone who's not to keen on my staying to play (based off of metagaming here) given that I have made a few comments that could be easily used as evidence that I would take out Wes early. A vote, a comment in sign ups, you know- standard stuff...

 

So it nicely appears as either of us would be the top players to frame for this. Point being, I'm sitting in a trap, and I am going to do something about it. It wasn't clever enough... Talya's right though, who were the ones on the bandwagon attempt on wes and this attempt on damane? No repeats except myself, right? Again, it appears a set up... and Talya ruined my fun by speaking too soon. :(

 

The answer is yes. For the most part.

Yes, it's in our best interest that he died? If that's the case, the outsider role isn't the same as I thought it was.

[damane]

well i'm going to wait and see what else comes to light

[Talya]

:-[ oops sorry Alys..

 

Just on a similar note. The last to rush a vote on Ilgross were..Naeann, Tigs, Vemy, Boyo, Barm and damane.

 

The three to jump on the damane vote were..Sorandha, Tigs and Boyo.

 

My guess is there was at least one maybe even 2 evils in that list of the rush vote, and maybe one in the vote on damane. I haven't forgot that Sorandha put her vote on Ilgross quite early on and kept it there, quietly.

 

So at the moment those three look quite suspicious, to anyhow...Now Alys I wish I had waited longer before piping in...sorry again although it was a good while since you posted. :(

[Alys Kinch]

meh, I'll get over it.

 

I agree on the boyo, soranda, and damane in the same looking boat as me. and i understand if people don't trust me. i just don't think it was as clever as the initial onset would have it seem.

[Vemynal]

I've done a slight reread and the people who stuck out to me were:

Kryos, Damane and Boyo

 

boyo because of his voting habits (and not to meta-game but similar play style to alys' vampire game)

 

Damane for the reasons alys have pointed out about her voting pattern and comments

 

Kryos for his lack of decision making and "helpless" attitude. I've never seen kryos like this before. A couple of times I think amethea agreed with him as well.

 

I'm a little confused on the Dark vote, why are we voting him again?

 

and as to what dsage said/what barm linked: Barm's link says that the role is supposed to come up as evil (i.e. a serial killer/mafia type).

 

Dsage then following the role tells us "its good for you he died" when it probably wasn't.

 

So I'm thinking we lost a vanilla townie who comes up evil when dead and a symp. Lets follow amethea's actions now and see who else we can drag up. list those she never addresses and those she agrees with. ESPECIALLY those she votes similar too. Amethea tends to wait for everyone to post before voting generally but that was also a perfect stall tactic this time to see who the evils would vote for.

 

I'm leaving in an hour and like I said I may not be back till monday. Cya all when i cya!

[damane]

well i'll agree that my post didn't quite come out right, that's because i thought Dsage was saying that an outsider was evil/mafia, if that wasn't the case i'm sorry, i guess i jumped the gun, but i am innocent

[Dark Justice]

Redfern: It is true that I haver been very little active, but if you check my latest posts, I hae not been here at all. I have in fact had some days off, and that is when I dont get to be active. Soon back to work again (monday) and then Ill be here like usual.. (In the meantime, I have to get to the border, cross it, and go back, to have more legal days..  :-\)

 

The night had some good things, and some bad. The killings was very fortunate for us, but I dont like the fact that there was two kills. Usually a townie vig saves his/her kill for later in the game, cause you dont want to waste your kill on someone on the same team. This makes me think that there is either a bad vig, as an own team, like mine and Wes role in death in the arctic. Or the mafia has two kills. Wich would be even worse...

[the dude]

well i'm off for the weekend in a few minutes.  i got nothing to add at this point beyond what i already said.  have a good weekend everyone. 

[Toy and Minion]

Like I said.  For the most part, it was in everyones best intrest that he died.  And that's as far as I go.

[damane]

i thought i understood that right the first time you said it, but thanks for clearing it up again Dsage

[Toy and Minion]

That was mostly for Vemmy

[damane]

Dsage

[Kryos]

Vemy, I think my being indecisive is kind of blatantly clear, there isn't much to go on, and you know I like to make logical choices and such for the most part and don't bandwagon, and in this case, I'm sorry, I can't be decisive, and I did honestly want a further explanation from Alys before doing anything further, and I agree pretty much with Talya's assessment of Alys' behavior. I doubt Damane is evil at this time as it just doesn't really fit. A mafia right off the bat as soon as the night actions were in wouldn't jump up and down for joy at the night kills, especially with one of them being the symp. Yes, one would think it prudent to do that to draw attention away from them as being a suspect, but in all honesty, it draws more attention to them, and an innocent has nothing to hide. And I'm sorry, but calling me as a top suspect in your book due to my indecisiveness with the lack of information anyone has gotten is beyond me. But it doesn't put you in my suspicion book as you are reading things in your own way which you can do. But all in all, there isn't a lot we have to go on at the moment, more information needs to be disseminated for us to actually have anything useful to win.

[Sorandha]

Just to start, I hate days that I have no computer access until the mid-afternoon. I'd like to [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] Damane. I'm sorry Damane, I had thought about my vote since the minute I put it in and inside I felt it was wrong. You jumped the gun and so did I. I try not to bandwagon but it's tough because I want to latch on to theories that make sense (being a new player) and I didn't think it through.

 

I don't see how voting for ilgross would make me look suspicious, however. I was fairly certain that something fishy was going on because of the whole "role reveal" situation, and ten other people agreed about it. The more I thought about it, the more I felt that that vote was a good one. Unfortunately just because you think on a vote doesn't make it correct. We lost a good player who was willing to take the aggressive side of the game and we're going to pay for it.

 

Oh, and I didn't say much after my vote because I don't want it to count as spam, since I really didn't have anything to add.

 

Right now I'm pretty much in the dark on who to vote for.

[SBoydW]

I waited on ilgross to see if it was going to turn into a band wagon vote (which it did)  so once I saw that everyone else was going to go that why I just threw my vote in, if I hadn't someone else would have and their name would have been on that list of suspicious people.

 

 

[SBoydW]

and as for my game play vemy, this is how I always play.  I know we haven't been in many games together, but you an ask the older exp. players, this is pretty much how I play all the time.

[Tigara]

Yeah, I pretty much did a bandwagon vote on Ilgross too.

 

Hmm, looking back, my evidence against damane is void. She may have said woohoo, but the two killed were mostly evil. But I won't unvote her because I have no better ideas as to who to move it to.

[Thorum]

First of all, I [glow=red,2,300]unvote Talya[/glow]. I knew what to do when day started, and just did it when it did. Of course, my argument made no sense in ilgross=inocent, so ... sorry.

 

And now, bear with me, a super-de-luxe mind jump: I'm gonna follow Talya. I agree that each of those lists probably contains one evil.

 

The last on the ilgross-vote: Naeann, Tigs, Vemy, Boyo, Barm and damane

 

The quick jumpers on the damane-vote: Sorandha, Tigs and Boyo.

 

I don't think that the same evil will be the unique element in both of these lists. If you look at the second list, you'll see why I [glow=red,2,300]vote Sorandha[/glow].

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

Just checking in. Not feeling well, and I've got family coming into town. I won't be on DM again until tomorrow evening. Sorry my presence has been scarce. On Monday, I will see if we have anything case-worthy. :D

 

Have a great weekend folks!

[Kryos]

Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well FDM. It's a shame we haven't gotten to have any arguments this game. It was frustrating but fun the last one, that's for sure. Enjoy your family visiting as well. And hopefully we do have something case-worthy come Monday, because right now, there isn't much of anything that is case worthy, I'm half tempted to pull up a randomizer and randomly pick a name.

[Sorandha]

Yea, I agree it was a stupid move to jump on the bandwagon like that, but I assure you I'm innocent. Like I said before I was confused as to the literal meaning of the "Outsider" role and thought that meant he was innocent, and thought that Damane was suspicious because of her jumping on Wes.

[Sorandha]

I hate double posting, I hit enter before I was done typing. I hope you feel better soon, FDM  :) and see you on Monday