Did Elayne have the BIG "O"?

[Mashiara O Aan.a--ein]

Just like in real life, a man likes to have control over everything, and the woman surrenders to her emotions.

 

So not true

[Ealdur Tinuviel]

Just like in real life, a man likes to have control over everything, and the woman surrenders to her emotions.

 

So not true

 

You're a female, aren't you?

 

[Mashiara O Aan.a--ein]

yes, so I'd know if real women were dumb enough to "surrender to emotions" and let men control everything

[Ealdur Tinuviel]

I think he was talking about sex...

[Mashiara O Aan.a--ein]

And I don't even think the connection with Saidar is supposed to be made, either. I think that the man likes to have control, and the woman surrenders herself. Just like in real life, a man likes to have control over everything, and the woman surrenders to her emotions.

 

No sexual imagery there, at least, there shouldn't be too much read into that.

 

hmm... I thought that whole argument was that it was NOT sexual

 

you refer to yourself as he?

[Ealdur Tinuviel]

Whoa! I didn't realize that I had said that. lol.

 

Big mistake. I didn't, and don't really, mean that after looking at what I wrote.

 

I can't understand what I was thinking at the time. My thoughts were so convoluted.

 

I actually ended up saying something that made sense only in a sexual context, yet that was the opposite of my meaning.

[Mashiara O Aan.a--ein]

lol, don't worry, we all muddle our thoughts every now and then :D

[Digbe]

I started this topic trying to be relatively respectful but humorous because I have found when there are several instances when RJ implements sexual comedy in this series.  I do believe,(Don't beat me up if I'm wrong its been 3 years since I read it!) That Nynaeve & Elayne were staying at a sort of brothel in Tanchico. 

 

Overall, I was just wondering what would happen to the Randland communities' POV toward Aes Sedai (especially Aeil wise ones) if they suspected that the WT bound itself by 3 oaths to a 3000 year old sexual toy? Whether true or not, it would certainly be politically damaging ;D

[Paradox]

Well her is what I think happened. Do you guys remember Birgittes odd joke in WH, A Lily in Winter? she says something like "get drunk enough to take of here clothes and dance on the tables". Well that is what I think Elayne did :D Thoughts? Comments?

[Magicana]

I started this topic trying to be relatively respectful but humorous because I have found when there are several instances when RJ implements sexual comedy in this series.  I do believe,(Don't beat me up if I'm wrong its been 3 years since I read it!) That Nynaeve & Elayne were staying at a sort of brothel in Tanchico. 

 

Overall, I was just wondering what would happen to the Randland communities' POV toward Aes Sedai (especially Aeil wise ones) if they suspected that the WT bound itself by 3 oaths to a 3000 year old sexual toy? Whether true or not, it would certainly be politically damaging ;D

 

I don't believe that they were...

[Digbe]

A little bump...

 

Anyone recall anymore sexually suggestive scenes that are intuitively obvious?

[Lune]

I always thought that scene down in the basement with the Oath Rod was kinda weird. Like, Yukiri et al are like "omg wut r u doin in da basement" and then when Saerin uncovers the Oath Rod they're all like "LOL". I just got this feeling they thought Pevara and Seaine were doing something dirty.

 

Then of course there's the Meidani/Elaida thing.

[Haldir Naurarrna]

A ter'angreal in the form of a wrist-thick red rod about a foot long. It feels firm rather than hard and feels even warmer than ter'angreal normally do. The red rod is activated by Fire. It creates visual and aural illusions, but if the user is unwary it may put her to sleep and broadcast her fantasies and dreams.

[inkubate]

no comment ;D

[Guest Stefania Sedai]

You know, I don't get over here to the discussion boards very often. And when I finally do, what do I find?  ::)Elayne and ter'angrel sex toys. You can't even sell those regular ones here in Alabama!

 

I don't think that Elayne did anything even close to what Dighe suggeted in her first post, but I am not surprised at the sexual ambiguity of the scene. RJ obviously likes a little t&a in his writings. I mean, have you ever stopped and considered how many times the women in this series have to get naked? You have to test for Accepted and Aes Sedai naked, you have to go to Rhuidean naked, they are naked in the sweat tents..... Where are the naked men??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no scenes inside the Aeil men's sweat tents. When the chiefs meet they are nice and dressed. Not to even mention the Accepted's "pillow friends"! You don't see the Warders hopping in each other's beds. This series is DEFINITELY written by a man!

[Digbe]

This series is DEFINITELY written by a man!

 

I dont think RJ would argue against this point...

 

 

[dmanmiller34]

There are the Baths in Shinear where both the women and the Men go naked.

[Mashiara O Aan.a--ein]

There are the Baths in Shinear where both the women and the Men go naked.

 

True, but be honest with yourself, who strips down naked more often in the series, the men or the women? Easy answer.

[riX]

You know, I don't get over here to the discussion boards very often. And when I finally do, what do I find?  ::)Elayne and ter'angrel sex toys. You can't even sell those regular ones here in Alabama!

 

Omg is that really true? Why can't you sell sex toys in Alabama? ..weird.

 

As for references to BDSM, what's up with Bashere and his wife?

And we also have Tylin tying Mat up..

[cloglord]

Big "O"?  I'm not sure what this means, could someone draw me a picture?

[Guest silver89]

Somehow I don't think that would be a good idea!! ;) ;D

[TowerOfRavens]

Ok. I did not read all the posts, but it is in the books what happened to Elayne. She danced naked on a table. When she is creating babes with Rand Aveindha makes reference to it to Bridgette.

 

Hope that helps.

[lou]

you should go back and read all the posts.too funny.

[Lord_Naryb]

Birgitte and Aviendha reference it again later. I don't recall the quote (and am too lazy to look it up) but it was something to the effect of Elayne "melting." Elayne didn't know what they were talking about and didn't ask.