[GAME OVER - TOWN WINS] Dragon and Swift

[Turin Turambar]

  On 6/1/2025 at 12:50 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

But the Mentalist can also be used to create confusion. 

 

Like at the moment the train is building on Sinister pretty fast because of what Darthe has said. 

 

@Turin Turambar I never noticed if you answered, but if we are eliminating SD we got to do you next. You ok with that? We don't get flips. Copping one of you would be more efficient. That way if Darthe is being honest we get two alignments instead of one. This way if he isn't telling the truth we will be two miseliminations and two NKs (all being equal) before we get back to hunting wolves. I think running up Peace and seeing what shakes loose is a better idea. 

 

Do not like these votes on Sinister, though that is not to say I'm defending him, but I don't like the strategy behind it 

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I understand why that might be needed, barring evidence of tampering with the Mentalist. I'm town and I already included myself in the overall PoE so am resigned to my possible conversion into the force, lol. I still win as long as we get the wolves. 

 

I still think SD is mafia though. So yeah.

 

Shad being so uber defensive of him is starting to sketch me out too tbh. 

[peacesells]

Good morning all.  Sorry about my absence, had a very busy day with the wife.  Need to catch up.  

[Shad_]

I heard someone mention symp

 

That would make more sense for Turin than pack if he's a wolf imo

[Gudrean]

  On 6/1/2025 at 2:12 PM, peacesells said:

Good morning all.  Sorry about my absence, had a very busy day with the wife.  Need to catch up.  

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Hey! I resemble that remark LOL

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/30/2025 at 7:24 PM, peacesells said:

Caught up.  That was alot.

Did Gud claim night 0 role cop?  Unless there is a counter claim that leans strong town.

Heavy is throwing scum accusations around like tic tacs.

He's my 2nd read as scum.  

UNVOTE

VOTE HEAVY

 

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  On 5/30/2025 at 7:32 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

These are all the times that Peace has mentioned Heavy. His second highest read

 

  On 5/28/2025 at 9:36 PM, peacesells said:

I had to go back and see the post Heavy keeps referring to.

I must of glossed over this originally or thought it was some inside joke of some sort?  

Shad, what did you mean by it?

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  On 5/30/2025 at 1:03 AM, peacesells said:

Wait til Heavy gets ahold of you.

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  On 5/29/2025 at 5:40 PM, peacesells said:

Dude...you may not like the way/shape/form someone responds but those are real game play responses.  Better than Turin "hide his posts" crap.  Anyway, gifs show dismissiveness, agitation, sarcasm, agreement etc.  They also are a better display of the emotion that the poster is feeling in the moment than the written word.  Heck, half of DPR's game is gifs....haven't seen you complain about it before.
 

Yeah...not helpful.  Save this stuff to your own personal message like I do.  I just send things to myself that I want to get back to later.  Otherwise it just looks like an opportunity to get some gullible towny to latch onto and make your fake case for you.
 

Certainly from your perspective...I loved it.  😛
 

Did you and Heavy set this whole exchange up?  It looks like you two set it up. 
 

This statement is true and there has been "you did this as scum last time" on the SD case from both Ithi and me.  I'd love to get a real train going on Tig because the slanks and hammers as scum.

But..I'd like to see some real friggin input from you on the whole playfield first.  Heck, maybe both of you are scum and you are parking a vote for later reference...like that matters in a no coroner game.

Do work dude or not/shrug

 

 

Berf...thank you thank you thank you.  I really got a good laugh on this whole sequence.  

FYI  I would really have placed the 3rd vote on SD but you beat me to it.  No, you technically didn't have to wait but I did call dibs.  No i know you just don't follow sibling/bro code.  Dibs matters Berf...remember that. 



The sleep, shower and 2 hour wasted drive to see a property gave me no clues on how to solve this game without blind luck.  No wagonomics and such.  So it going to be pure Vote and Hope.

SD is top of my list still.  Even with Shads misgivings with him being so overt...not out of character imo.

There is a dynamic between Heavy and Leelou that triggers me.  Need a full reread to sus that out.

Tig...non existent.  Same as last game as scum.  Problem here is odds right?  The last game played SD and Tig were both scum exhibiting the same characteristics but no way twice in a roll right? 

DPR did say he isnt a bastard mod....but I'm starting to have my doubts.  (before you pipe in DPR...i kid...i kid...but reallly?)

VOTE SD  

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  On 5/29/2025 at 6:17 PM, peacesells said:

without going back and quoting all the posts...here how it goes.

Leelou: "Heavy looks scummy for blah blah"

Heavy:  "Oh, this is why I said blah blah"

Leelou: "Oh..in that case you look like town"

Maybe later I'll quote it all...don't hold me to it though. 


anyway...really walking out the door now.

 

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  On 5/30/2025 at 5:15 PM, peacesells said:

Wasn't much of a slip imo.  Has no influence on my opinion of Heavy.  

I'll look for the quote.

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  On 5/30/2025 at 5:18 PM, peacesells said:

The way that DPR posted Tarthe/Dig on the Heavy count threw me off a bit.  So technically there are 3 trains.

SD 4
Heavy 2
Berf 2

So hard No's on two of the three.

 

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  On 5/30/2025 at 7:24 PM, peacesells said:

Caught up.  That was alot.

Did Gud claim night 0 role cop?  Unless there is a counter claim that leans strong town.

Heavy is throwing scum accusations around like tic tacs.

He's my 2nd read as scum.  

UNVOTE

VOTE HEAVY

 

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No previous real mention of thinking Heavy is Mafia really that I can see. Maybe Peace just doesn't want Teph to die.

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This is why Peace is Mafia.

 

But he was super upset that the Lynch on Sinister had been derailed. And kind of snarky after Teph got lynched.

 

I think Darthe did get the mismatch alignment between Turin/Sinister so one of them is Mafia.

 

It's possible Sinister was meant to be the Mafia Team's fall guy but the Teph Lynch mucked that up.

 

I'd be happy to change to Peace if people don't want to do the Sinister/Turin thing today.

 

If Dice did have the cop before he passed it on, and him using that cop on someone caused him to die... then the person he used it on was probs the Siren. He should be back chatting or voting tomorrow? So we will know then. If it matches up with Darthe info then yay.

 

So if you want to wait for Dice to chime in, I'm OK to

 

Unvote... Vote Peace

 

And get him gone.

 

also i thought i might be killed, cos Town and all mouthy... so I asked for no parcels.

 

But maybe they preferred to kill parcels rather than people lol.

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ugh click on the little arrow instead of trying to open that second link. It'll take you to where I called out Peace panic change to Heavy when he realised he couldn't tag along on my SD vote and so did a lame slide over to Heavy.

[DPR]

Current Vote Cout:

 

SD (2) - Turin, Gud

peace (3) - Heavy, Shad, Ithi

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

 

Day 2 ends at 4 pm on Monday, the 2nd. 
The countdown timer is the first post in the OP

[peacesells]

  On 5/31/2025 at 8:02 PM, DPR said:

The wind howled, driving sheets of rain to lash all below. The gale was such that nothing could be heard over it and nothing could be seen through it. 
 

Still, life and death hung in the balance and the killers had nothing to lose. 
 

Leelou was the first target. She never saw the blade, only the darkness that filled her vision as her blood spilled into the water below. 
 

LEELOU, GOVERNOR, HAS BEEN KILLED. THE GOVERNOR ROLE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE GAME

 

dice was different… He was staring straight at death when it came for him, but had no way to stop it. 
 

DICE, COP AND DOC, HAS BEEN KILLED. 
 

Lightning danced across the sky, casting the entire lagoon with its brilliant white light, revealing a figure standing covered in a funeral shroud. The figure slowly reached up and pulled the shroud over its head. 
 

HEAVY HAS BEEN REVIVED. THE NECROMANCER ROLE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE GAME

 

Lighting flashed again, revealing a city in chaos…

 

Please do not post until I return after sending out action results.
 

 

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  On 6/1/2025 at 10:45 AM, DPR said:

*Mod Correction: dice was the Necromancer. That is why the role was removed. My apology for the oversight and the OP has been corrected. 

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Ok...still going through my first read through but I'm very confused about 1 pt.  

If Leelou was the scum team kill as many are assuming.....how did Dice die if he used his one ability to revive Heavy?

Dice was cop, doc and necromancer?

I need to wrap my head around this before I can dig into Darthe's results on Turin and SD.

I'm not voting until this is cleared up.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Of course maybe Dice looked at Peace.

 

I can't wait for him to come back.

 

So exciting.

[peacesells]

  On 6/1/2025 at 2:54 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Of course maybe Dice looked at Peace.

 

I can't wait for him to come back.

 

So exciting.

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How, if he revived Heavy?

[Turin Turambar]

I might have quoted these backwards  but here you go

  On 6/1/2025 at 12:42 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I looked for the rules about using mtiple roles. It's not in the game OP (at least I didn't see it), but I. The sign up thread it says a player can only use one "pass along" role per night. So, since necro was a "permanent " role he could use it and one of either cop or doc. 

 

Had a moment there.

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  On 6/1/2025 at 2:53 PM, peacesells said:

 

Ok...still going through my first read through but I'm very confused about 1 pt.  

If Leelou was the scum team kill as many are assuming.....how did Dice die if he used his one ability to revive Heavy?

Dice was cop, doc and necromancer?

I need to wrap my head around this before I can dig into Darthe's results on Turin and SD.

I'm not voting until this is cleared up.

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Necro was a permanent role. The others were pass along. He could use one of each.

[berf]

Just an update to let y'all know it's nearly 1am Sunday and I will not be doing anything game related tonight, apologies.

 

And apologies generally to the players and DPR - I'm nowhere near where I want to be in terms of activity here, and that's down to two things - work forcing some stupid late nights on me out of nowhere (management change, demands, etc - I work a 9-5 and yet here I am) and just generally being overwhelmed in this game. My first game back was always going to be a lot, but I had forgotten how much work it takes to actually keep a finger on the pulse of this. I can't rely on meta, the meme posts are draining when trying to do 'work', and I swear language drift in these short ten years is enough to just have me flailing - some of the more entrenched players especially speak half english half truncated mafia shorthand, and, I can't tell anyone how to play, but from my position it's not super helpful.

 

So I kind of suck as a player right now. Not trying to bring real life into it too much, but tbh my hunting will be nowhere near as active or on point as most others, as I unfortunately do not have the time or skills or practice to do so.

 

I'll dump reads and point out things I find sus, but if I'm pointing at it, likely everyone else has seen it regardless.

 

SD v Turin seems the obvious issue of the day. If there's other stuff going on I'll deal with it tomoz.

 

I was trying to say "Please do not consider this post part of the game" I don't know how to like, ...I wouldn't hide behind inactivity as a player of any alignment, I guess is what I'm trying to get at, but then we're right back to playing the game. So maybe this is indeed a ruse. Think what you want.

 

But I'll be back tomorrow with actual content and there's still time to build a lynch, so, until then.

[berf]

Still doing better than ed, though.

[peacesells]

  On 6/1/2025 at 2:58 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I might have quoted these backwards  but here you go

 

Necro was a permanent role. The others were pass along. He could use one of each.

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You are making assumptions here.  

@DPR can you clarify please?

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 6/1/2025 at 2:57 PM, peacesells said:

How, if he revived Heavy?

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Turin had a Theory... but Dice looked at someone and died. He wasn't shot. He wasn't stabbed. So Siren yes?

 

AND Dice was the Necromancer AND Heavy came back from the dead.

 

However it worked... it all happened 

 

I'd love to hear your delightful 'alternative facts' on how Dice died though 🙂

[peacesells]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:01 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Turin had a Theory... but Dice looked at someone and died. He wasn't shot. He wasn't stabbed. So Siren yes?

 

AND Dice was the Necromancer AND Heavy came back from the dead.

 

However it worked... it all happened 

 

I'd love to hear your delightful 'alternative facts' on how Dice died though 🙂

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Dice looked at someone and died?  Where are you getting that?

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 5/31/2025 at 8:02 PM, DPR said:

dice was different… He was staring straight at death when it came for him, but had no way to stop it. 

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Here you go.

 

[Turin Turambar]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:01 PM, peacesells said:

You are making assumptions here.  

@DPR can you clarify please?

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Reasonable ones though. Necromancer was definitely a permanent role. In the OP it states it is not passed along. The Cop and Doc roles were both listed as pass along. In the sign up thread it states that only one pass along role can be used each night. Nothing is mentioned about if permanent roles are affected. Dice definitely revived Heavy. This is mod confirmed. Therefore he used the Necromancer ability. The flavour indicates to me that he died by visiting the siren. So logically he used a pass along ability as well. I can't think of any other way to explain Dice dying. 

 

But go ahead, theorise. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

But again,  please tell me how you think Dice died.

 

 

[peacesells]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:08 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

Here you go.

 

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DPR specifically stated story was flavor...not hints. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:03 PM, peacesells said:

Dice looked at someone and died?  Where are you getting that?

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Because there is no other NK. I'm alive. Dice was copdoc and died. 

 

What is your theory, Peace? 

[peacesells]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:09 PM, Turin Turambar said:

. The flavour indicates to me that he died by visiting the siren. So logically he used a pass along ability as well. I can't think of any other way to explain Dice dying. 

 

But go ahead, theorise. 

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why are you two ignoring that flavor has no game impact according to the mod?

[peacesells]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:12 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Because there is no other NK. I'm alive. Dice was copdoc and died. 

 

What is your theory, Peace? 

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That it could be reversed...Leelou did something with the siren and Dice, was the nk target. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 6/1/2025 at 3:11 PM, peacesells said:

DPR specifically stated story was flavor...not hints. 

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Why you argue with me and not with Turin.

 

Why you not give your thoughts on how Dice died?

 

You got nothing else to go on about?

 

You should very very carefully check all your previous posts so you don't contractict yourself when you eventually decided to come out with new 'mafia reads'

[Ithillian Turambar]

So funny.