Camp Dreadfall Mafia Game -- GAME OVER -- MAFIA WIN!

[Turin Turambar]

This is the VC bit less than 38 hours from DL

On 5/15/2025 at 8:38 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count

 

SD (3) - Eddie. Darthe, Peace

Teph (1) - Turin

Eddie (1) - Dice

Heavy (1) - GK

 

 

With 11 alive it's 6 to Hammer

 

Not voting (5): Heavy, DPR, Tig, SD, Teph

 

End of Day 1

This is DPR's first (I think) vote on Peace, plus some thoughts.

On 5/15/2025 at 12:40 PM, DPR said:

Crow’s Nest: I’ve read a number of papers and observe the following…

 

@Tigraine

@Darthe

@ed2funy

@dicetosser1

 

All four seem to be posting in a natural and logical manner so far. They will be my initial town core. 
 

@Turin Turambar is okay, but more quiet and spammy than the last two games. Maybe AI, maybe not. 
 

@SinisterDeath Jumped into the game with a plan and some frenetic energy. I don’t know why anyone would do this as mafia, but it requires noting. Also, I did ask twice why he gave up on his plan so early and he didn’t answer that question directly. 
 

@Gabriel Kross He’s made a few good posts but there are also a few that *might* be looked at distancing from Heavy. I get the part where Heavy’s play can be confusing, but something about these posts pinged me.

 

@HeavyHalfMoonBlade I hope he’s mafia this game, but I fear he’s not. This feels like a repeat of last game where he wraps real emotion and judgement around the game and it confuses the hell out of me. At this point I’m trying to look at him through a meta-squared lens, but it’s exhausting. I hope he’s mafia lol

 

@Tephulis Oddly confident for a first game, like maybe he’s got teammates. He’s accusatory but has added very few actual reads or observations, which is fine for d1, but weird in context to the confidence. Needs watching. 
 

But I did laugh at the wolf garden posts 🤣

 

@peacesells Peace is my ringer. His 2nd post in, he jokes about spam posts being used as cover by wolves. It’s a joke post, obviously, but he’s thinking it… He spams a bit himself, all is well, then makes his first game related observation about a connection he sees between Sinister and Teph. He throws a vote down on Sin. 
 

But then he grills Heavy for three posts, hard enough to raise my eyebrows.
 

Then he drops all of it and goes back to his theory about Sin and Teph bussing each other. 
 

He’s obviously thinking about cover and bussing, and the grill-and-gone treatment on Heavy looks exactly like what he’s accusing others of doing. So for now,
 

Vote Peace

First thing is his town core. Note that SD who he has had town all game is not there. His comments on SD are the basis of TWTBAW but to me it doesn't look like a town read. Not even really a town lean. He follows standard procedure by having Darthe in his town core though. 

Looking at his reasoning for voting Peace. It is pretty bad. The whole he grilled Heavy thing is rubbish.  It's D1, you question the person in front of you. It's about getting opinions that they have to justify later.

 

I'm gonna find whatever other lists DPR gave and look for SD. This is on page 20 for reference. 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

9 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

 

Why did you think he had a NK? 

 

 

I was just trying to run through the implications of each of us being mafia. 

[Turin Turambar]

This is the only other one I found from my previous read through. 

On 5/16/2025 at 2:19 AM, DPR said:

1-11

 

1. Me lol

2. Tigs

3. dice

4. ed 

5. Darthe

6. Heavy

7. Turin

8. Sin

9. Teph

10. Gabe

11. Peace

 

 

SD is 8 of 11. Hardly a ringing endorsement. 

DPR,  your "I had SD as town" all day just doesn't track.

 

I listened to you when you changed tack to being cooperative into D2. We ended up getting Darthe out of that. Thanks. I still can't shake this thing though. Looking back I think you wanted to see if you could get me to back off. I did but you still haven't answered the question of how you handled SD to my satisfaction. That Darthe pushed the TWTBAW thing for SD with you is adding to my suspicion. 

[Turin Turambar]

SD  1-11 list. With asterisks.

On 5/16/2025 at 2:57 AM, SinisterDeath said:

Sorry this took awhile. I've been going back and forth between reading some older posts, and being indecisive.

 

Then the kids went and decided right before bedtime that now was the best time to work on their homework... 

 

Most town to least town

HeavyHalfMoonBlade*

dicetosser1

Tephulis

Tigraine

ed2funny

peacesells*

Darthe

DPR*

Turin Turambar

Gabriel Kross

Darthe is just outside PoE to lunch. Standard mafia tactic.

That DPR and Heavy are the ones in asterisks along with the D1 lunched townie is telling imo. SD later explained that they could move drastically based on a single interaction. This in itself is crazy but it is important that we notice it allows him to suddenly "clear" or sus them which is something mafia will like to be able to do. I also don't really remember SD ever really giving DPR any sus. A bit of WIFOM  but not really suspicion. 

Tbf, it could be the other way and an excuse to jump on Heavy if he is going down. It looks worse on DPR  imo.

[Turin Turambar]

Darthe's 1-11.

On 5/16/2025 at 3:18 AM, Darthe said:

Screw it, all the 1-11 convo is something I don’t wanna be a part of.

 

Here’s mine, I’m not responsible for if it’s shit but I get full credit post game if I sniped it.

 

Me

Wes

Turin

Heavy

Tig

Ed

Dice

Teph

Peace

EP

SD

 

Note: SD right at the bottom. Willing to bus the Goon from the start. I think this aligns with the mafia plan was to bus SD on day 2. That makes me feel better about Dice. Darthe has DPR and Heavy as town. It troubles me how often DPR  and Heavy are in the same place because I know only one of them can be mafia. 

 

[Turin Turambar]

On 5/16/2025 at 10:01 PM, keyholder21 said:

Final Vote Count

 

Peace (6) - Eddie, Teph, Tig, DPR, SD, Dice

SD (4) - Darthe, Peace, Turin, GKEP

Turin (1) - Heavy

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Final vote counts. Don't like Heavy siting on the sidelines with his vote on me. The nudge at SD also pings.

DPR tipping the scales (remote, yes but at that moment it was 3-3 and your vote pretty much ensured the lunch was going.to.Peace.

On 5/19/2025 at 10:11 PM, keyholder21 said:

Final Day 2 Vote Count

 

Darthe (3) - DPR, Heavy, Dice

SD (2) - Darthe, Turin

Turin (1) - SD

 

Not Voting (2): Tig, Eddie

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

 

 

This one SD sits out. He can't vote himself and we now know Darthe had the better role so he wasn't gonna vote Darthe. Again DPR and Heavy are.in the same place.  It's uncanny. Darthe interacted with them.very similarly as well. With the lack of activity and voting we gave mafia too.much control. They could have switched to.me.and Dice probably would have followed in either alignment.

[Turin Turambar]

48 minutes ago, DPR said:

@Turin Turambar yes or no - did you catch the slip? 

No. I haven't read too much in thread as I was looking at Darthe and stuff. I will have a look but I need to get ready for work so it might be later. 

 

If everyone else could just say they saw it or not (no spoilers) I will look later.

 

I will say if we can count on Ed shooting true we can lunch one and shoot the other to resolve. 

[DPR]

Alrighty then

 

So, as Heavy and Turin work diligently to make their cases against me, I’ve been paying attention to the actual game. 
 

At the end of N2, the 3rd and last Mafia probably said something that would make blush, and then the Mafia team would have realized they needed a new plan to survive. 
 

The obvious reaction from everyone was going to be (and was) that I RB’d the NK, so that would need to be figured into the Mafia plan. 

 

The plan would need to present the 3rd Mafia as Town. And, if possible, throw doubt on ed and myself as cleared Townies. 

Let’s have a look at the chain of events…

 

 

 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

18 hours ago, Turin Turambar said:

Hell Ed, you can shoot me if you want. I think we still have enough  numbers if  I die.

Why does Turin say this if he is a commuter? I mean I know it is not totally serious, but it does seem a little too serious. Just too many things to get suspicious about. 

[ed2funy]

@Turin Turambar it was either just a joke or iirc no one else was writing claims yet and he was the first to say anything. 

[ed2funy]

I announced my shot with 30 seconds to spare before Night ended. So you know it was me who shot SD. 
DPR is in my town core after mafia kill got blocked, and we win this game by lynching dice or heavy, and then me shooting the other. Even if I die at night, we win before the end of day or night. 
too easy. 
 

don’t like Heavy’s crazy WIFOMing and I already doubt his informant claim, so while I’m fine with either, I’m gonna repark my vote there 

 

vote Heavy

[DPR]

17 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

Awesome Ed

 

@DPR what did you get up to?

dice does ask about what I did. This pings me - and I hadn’t posted what I’d done yet.

 

 

17 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

So one left. Who did what? Well, really well done, everyone. 

17 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ok. 

 

Hard claim. 

 

I was 1x informant. I investigated Turin, got no result. That is my info. 

 

These were Heavy’s next two posts. He also asks who did what, and then he hard claims. 
 

This is when the game was 90% solved
 

17 hours ago, DPR said:

I used the RB on dice & the JK on Heavy. 
 

Figure ed would sort SD

 

My explanation came after Heavy’s claim, which he has made a point to mention a number of times

 

So on the thread I point out that it’s between dice and Heavy. But in my head, I was already 90% done.

 

But, just to be sure, I waited. People can make mistakes, so I posted for everyone to take a breath and that we had plenty of time. But for me, I wanted to see if a case against me was incoming. 
 

As it happens, I didn’t have long to wait LOL

 

Tinfoil Turin jumped into action with a multiverse explanation of everything that could possibly happen, especially if it involved me being scum. 
 

And, sure enough, so did Heavy. 
 

I waited until this morning to start goading him, provoking his response but also giving him possible outs from his WIFOM. But he got all the way to suggesting I should be the next to lynch lol. 
 

And that’s what it is. 
 

Heavy claimed 1x Informant. He then went into detail about how he investigated Turin. 
 

Problem is, Informant is not an investigative role. Not even close. 
 

 

[ed2funy]

On another note, did I share this? It’s one of the signs for my store 🤩🥹

it’s real! It’s really real 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

1 hour ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Does your double vote, should we live to see it, prove you are town or only that your role gives you a double vote? 

@DPR I don't remember seeing if you answered this question? 

[DPR]

18 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ok. 

 

Hard claim. 

 

I was 1x informant. I investigated Turin, got no result. That is my info. 

 

[DPR]

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

@DPR I don't remember seeing if you answered this question? 

I didn’t. But I did answer another one lol

[DPR]

I’m gonna get some work done while everyone has a chance to review this. I’m pretty sure things are locked up, but the power of the Town is to get everyone’s opinion.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

So we are skipping logic and concentrating on a mistake that has no effect on the game? Checking my PMs I see it says I only gained an ability 1x investigate and that is all. 

 

This makes me like DPR even less. 

[ed2funy]

So you’re changing your story? Why would you say Informant if it didn’t say that

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count

 

Heavy (2) - Dice, Eddie

 

Not Voting (4): Heavy, Tig, Turin, DPR

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.  Heavy is at L-2.

 

Day 3 Deadline

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

15 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

So you’re changing your story? Why would you say Informant if it didn’t say that

I am not changing my story. I gained the ability I used. I misremembered what the mail said. Personally I don't see why this would be AI - obviously I made a mistake, but would I not be more likely if I was looking up an ability I didn't have to get it right rather than a mail I received three days before? Especially as if I was a wolf I'd have assistance? 

 

I don't like how DPR has brought this up only after he has received heat. 

 

But whatever, if you really think it must be me and Dice, then town has won, no probs. Kill us both Dice will flip mafia. 

 

But think of who has created the narrative that it is me or Dice. Who could have an ability to end the game, or have the double vote to "prove" his case. Though not sure that is much of a point it is really convenient that he could not do it today, only block two players he thought were vanilla. 

 

It seems to me taking out DPR would guarantee he isn't lying, then you have a 50% chance still of catching Dice. If you can resist killing me. 

 

But if you don't trust me, there is nothing I can do about it and I'm not going to sweat it either. DPR should be making you uneasy, cos he is me. And totally I could be wrong. But neither Dice or me is masterminding what is going on, DPR has set all this up and is pouring scorn over anyone "WIFOMing" over any possibility that isn't what he is setting out as the obvious truth. 

 

Or you can eliminate me, see I'm telling the truth and then choose if Dice was blocked or DPR is a mastermind. His claim about his role just seems too weird and too convenient, but maybe it makes sense when you know the other mafia role, idk. 

 

So kill me by all means, just don't forget there are more people under suspicion than me and Dice. 

[Tigraine]

49 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

So we are skipping logic and concentrating on a mistake that has no effect on the game? Checking my PMs I see it says I only gained an ability 1x investigate and that is all. 

 

This makes me like DPR even less. 

 

Where did you pull the word informant from?

 

 

[Turin Turambar]

Oh this is about informant. I did question that when it happened.  

 

I know in Hamilton Cass/me was a modified town cop/informant  ( really messenger).

 

It struck me odd at the time. I asked him to explain his role. It kinda made sense but I wanted to get to darthe so didn't push it. Not sure if it is a simple mistake or a true slip. 

 

I'm at work waiting to start so I'll leave early it for now. I wanna finish Darthe Day 2. See ya

[Turin Turambar]

25 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I am not changing my story. I gained the ability I used. I misremembered what the mail said. Personally I don't see why this would be AI - obviously I made a mistake, but would I not be more likely if I was looking up an ability I didn't have to get it right rather than a mail I received three days before? Especially as if I was a wolf I'd have assistance? 

 

I don't like how DPR has brought this up only after he has received heat. 

 

But whatever, if you really think it must be me and Dice, then town has won, no probs. Kill us both Dice will flip mafia. 

 

But think of who has created the narrative that it is me or Dice. Who could have an ability to end the game, or have the double vote to "prove" his case. Though not sure that is much of a point it is really convenient that he could not do it today, only block two players he thought were vanilla. 

 

It seems to me taking out DPR would guarantee he isn't lying, then you have a 50% chance still of catching Dice. If you can resist killing me. 

 

But if you don't trust me, there is nothing I can do about it and I'm not going to sweat it either. DPR should be making you uneasy, cos he is me. And totally I could be wrong. But neither Dice or me is masterminding what is going on, DPR has set all this up and is pouring scorn over anyone "WIFOMing" over any possibility that isn't what he is setting out as the obvious truth. 

 

Or you can eliminate me, see I'm telling the truth and then choose if Dice was blocked or DPR is a mastermind. His claim about his role just seems too weird and too convenient, but maybe it makes sense when you know the other mafia role, idk. 

 

So kill me by all means, just don't forget there are more people under suspicion than me and Dice. 

Do me a solid. Look through everyone and tell me who you thunk most likely mafia to least likely mafia. We got a day right?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

I had it in my mind as that is what the role was and therefore obviously inserted it into my memory of the mail. 

 

As I say if you guys are sure that it is me or Dice, no worries, you can get us both and town wins. I'm just trying to stress to you why you might think it is either Dice or me. It seems unlikely to be Ed unless we can account for Teph. Tigs and Turin both seem more unlikely on average but are not outwith suspicion and DPR is worryingly involved in all aspects of this show down. Please keep this in mind. Or disagree, whatever. If DPR is telling the truth and right in his interpretation, we've won.