90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Tigraine]

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

Tig hasn't been a part of either lunch.

I've already told yall that I fell asleep.  It sucks that I wasn't here to give input before DL but it is what it is.

 

As for the train on Ed, Verb and I literally voted at the same time.  His came in before mine though so he was the hammer.  As soon as I saw .... someone (don't recall which specifically caught it first) I voted him. But I was here and actively participating.

 

 

[Zander?]

12 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

If characters were AI we wouldn't be allowed to claim or alternatively the baddies would get fake claims.

 

Pointless wifom. Especially considering he stated he wasn't gonna vote a uncced doc.

 

I'm not saying it's something that has to be factored in for everyone it was just something I saw and it ended up being so.  But overall yes you're right Wolves will have names that could make sense either way because well it's Darthe LOLOLOLOL 

[Zander?]

8 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

I was just going over it, and I think you're right.  I figured the extra blue would offset that and we could lynch the GF in endgame, but it would still be a 50/50 as scum would obv leave them alive for confusion.

 

Ok, just red then.  Good callout.

 

I'm thought so too..... lololololol....

[Zander?]

8 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Agree, but "X player has more 3p equity than Y player" is not a thing this game.  You're either scum, or town with even 3p equity to other townies.

 

Also forgot to add....after last game f anyone whose 3rd Party I will hint you fing down and you will slowly and very very painful DIAF

[Zander?]

4 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

I've already told yall that I fell asleep.  It sucks that I wasn't here to give input before DL but it is what it is.

 

As for the train on Ed, Verb and I literally voted at the same time.  His came in before mine though so he was the hammer.  As soon as I saw .... someone (don't recall which specifically caught it first) I voted him. But I was here and actively participating.

 

 

 

It's not that I don't believe you fell asleep both times.....it's just that it's Mafia and I can't believe anything anyone says about anything....it's nothing personal I swear lolololol.

 

Also that's not the only thing it's just a another thing in a seemingly increasing list of things that are suss irt you.

 

Hope you understand that.  ❤️ 

[Tigraine]

1 hour ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

 

But I had her as mafia and to me it seemed like she was trying to not vote Ed too soon.

This is an odd statement to me.  I had voted Ed.  Then I unvoted when he claimed just to be safe until it was sorted.  I didn't automatically Jump on another train (which someone called me out for like it was scummy but I honestly cannot see how) but then was responding to...something when the big slip happened so it took me a minute to see it.

 

Didn't you unvote when he claimed as well? 

1 hour ago, Nynaeve said:

 

I did give a reason att. Might not be one you liked or agreed with, and that's fine

 

You said my reads weren't really reads....but as I've explained, the first time someone really pinged, I said it.  Otherwise I was just making comments about others game play to see if anything stood out to anyone else as I haven't played in awhile and haven't played with some of the players at all.

 

I've seen more than one person comment about this being like old school games so, in my mind, that means people play differently now.  I didn't want to go full on accusations just because someone plays differently than I was used to.

 

But I have been giving reads and reasons for those reads all of D2. Yet you've not added anything to your reasoning.  That's what has had me curious.  

 

 

[Tigraine]

1 hour ago, Zander? said:

.

I have thoughts on this but I'm assuming you want to hear Dice answer first lol

Isn't the 3p looking for a specific name?

 

Was it Turin or Ithi (could be wrong on who exactly) that said we should probably not give names as that would help the 3p?

[Nynaeve]

6 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

This is an odd statement to me.  I had voted Ed.  Then I unvoted when he claimed just to be safe until it was sorted.  I didn't automatically Jump on another train (which someone called me out for like it was scummy but I honestly cannot see how) but then was responding to...something when the big slip happened so it took me a minute to see it.

 

Didn't you unvote when he claimed as well? 

 

You said my reads weren't really reads....but as I've explained, the first time someone really pinged, I said it.  Otherwise I was just making comments about others game play to see if anything stood out to anyone else as I haven't played in awhile and haven't played with some of the players at all.

 

I've seen more than one person comment about this being like old school games so, in my mind, that means people play differently now.  I didn't want to go full on accusations just because someone plays differently than I was used to.

 

But I have been giving reads and reasons for those reads all of D2. Yet you've not added anything to your reasoning.  That's what has had me curious.  

 

 

 

Keep reading

[DPR]

33 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

Re: 3p equity

 

 

In this game, I don't think it's relevant.  3p will be basically a townie until they activate SK mode, right?  That means everybody without scum equity has 3p equity - that's how it works.

 

So I don't think any one player has more than another - it's just on/off whether they have any at all.

 

Please poke holes in this if you don't think it makes sense.

We only just got the real details of this role, so we’d have to go back and read for actual equity. But I don’t see any reason that the Condemner would intentionally give themselves away - they’re just gonna hunt while they play and shoot at night. 
 

Heavy might have slipped, but other than that, I agree that this is a moot topic for now. Hunt for scum. 
 

 

 

[Zander?]

5 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

Isn't the 3p looking for a specific name?

 

Was it Turin or Ithi (could be wrong on who exactly) that said we should probably not give names as that would help the 3p?

 

I'm not 100% sure lol maybe.  I'm not saying to give names ...Dice asked Ed to claim and he did.  I just stayed that Rand had clarified the character Ed listed was a Spy in the Movies which made me think 3rd party or a Wolf possibly is all.

[Tigraine]

45 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

Tigs voted after majority was reached.

I voted the same time as Verb. His came through first.  I've quoted it a couple times because he said his showed it was a full minute before mine but they came through together.  

 

Probably doesn't matter but again, I want to point out when something is misrepresented. I think this is. 

[Zander?]

9 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

Isn't the 3p looking for a specific name?

 

Was it Turin or Ithi (could be wrong on who exactly) that said we should probably not give names as that would help the 3p?

 

 

"The condemner in this game is targeting a player with a night kill that is only successful on a specific character who was randomly pre-selected at the start of the game. If the condemner eliminates their target, they will be removed from the game and the game will continue. If the condemner's target is killed by any other means they will lose their 1x bpv and become a serial killer with a nightly kill. "

 

Doesn't say if the Condemner is aware of who or not or just ains and hopes his NK only effective I'd hits right person. And if there target is killed/lunched in any other way they become SK which would then mean there's 2 NKs possibilities a night ATP.

[Zander?]

Just now, Zander? said:

 

 

"The condemner in this game is targeting a player with a night kill that is only successful on a specific character who was randomly pre-selected at the start of the game. If the condemner eliminates their target, they will be removed from the game and the game will continue. If the condemner's target is killed by any other means they will lose their 1x bpv and become a serial killer with a nightly kill. "

 

Doesn't say if the Condemner is aware of who or not or just ains and hopes his NK only effective I'd hits right person. And if there target is killed/lunched in any other way they become SK which would then mean there's 2 NKs possibilities a night ATP.

 

Is the Condemner removed as well?  If not do they win with either Town or Wolves?!??  Or if successful do the rest of us lose as well but game continues...

And again I'd be playing with absolutely No chance to Win?!??!?

 

@Darthe

 

I will hunt you down in RL and kick you right in the junk repeatedly.... lololololol... but 100% seriously I will....

 

[Nynaeve]

2 minutes ago, Tigraine said:

I voted the same time as Verb. His came through first.  I've quoted it a couple times because he said his showed it was a full minute before mine but they came through together.  

 

Probably doesn't matter but again, I want to point out when something is misrepresented. I think this is. 

 

I went by darthe's final vc. Don't see how I'm misrepping anything.

[Tigraine]

26 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

It's not that I don't believe you fell asleep both times.....it's just that it's Mafia and I can't believe anything anyone says about anything....it's nothing personal I swear lolololol.

 

Also that's not the only thing it's just a another thing in a seemingly increasing list of things that are suss irt you.

 

Hope you understand that.  ❤️ 

 

No, I'm not taking it personal. Like I said, it is what it is.  

 

Thanks for the clarity on the condemner.  Am I misremembering someone saying that about names though? 

 

Okay, like I said, I won't be back on before deadline so I'm gonna say what I gotta say...

 

A lot of people have me on the sus list and that's fine.  However, almost everyone that has listed reasons, have used misquoted or misrepresented reasons.  If you read back over it, you will see I'm not wrong.

 

Heavy? (I think, don't have time to look back) said I defended DPR (which now with his roleclaim, it might make the issue a moot point idk) but I asked for him/them to show me where that happened but I never saw that response (maybe I missed it) I also thought it was odd (and I mentioned it at the time) that Heavy refused to give a reason as to why he gave a sus read on someone else.  Why would you not want to prove your point? So Heavy is by far the top of my list based on these things.

 

I asked Dice what he thought I flip flopped on but I didn't see a response (maybe I missed it as well). I'm not necessarily saying this is sus, just that it's odd to me that someone wouldn't want to show their work.

 

As for anyone else, I'm not going to lie, it's hard for me to set aside all the misquoted or misrepresented stuff that's being thrown out about me.  It has seemed to happen just enough that everyone is taking those quotes and representations and using them to pile on thing after thing which they're calling sus.  But if you look back at the things you have mentioned, you'll see I'm not wrong.

 

Honestly, the mafia would be idiots to waste a NK on me because I'm on most people's sus list.  They can kill (or attempt to kill) a different townie then leave me on the Chopping block for tomorrow.  

 

As I've said, you all are gonna see what you wanna see and believe what you want to believe but if you actually read the things I've said and compare them to the things people have said or implied I said, you'll see why its hard for me to pinpoint one between you that's scum because you're all doing the work for them.  

 

So Heavy is my number one for reasons stated above.  But I'm not real sure who I'd place number two, also for reasons stated above.  

[Tigraine]

14 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

I went by darthe's final vc. Don't see how I'm misrepping anything.

Because it isn't the whole story.

[Tigraine]

Okay guys, I'm out.  Let's go burn up and spend way too much money 🤦‍♀️

 

[RandA lThor]

5 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

 

I checked in briefly this morning to see the eod scene. doing the catch up now, but I already know ed's flip. 

 

if I had to guess, one of key/ithi/tigs is prolly scum.

Doing a quick catch up, won't have time till way later today, but do we know who unvoted right after Ed's claim? Could be a coordinated effort where they said yeah we'll unvote right after. Could also not be, but something to keep in mind

[Zander?]

5 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

Doing a quick catch up, won't have time till way later today, but do we know who unvoted right after Ed's claim? Could be a coordinated effort where they said yeah we'll unvote right after. Could also not be, but something to keep in mind

 

I did.  NYN quotes later others.  I think Tig and Ithi come to mind iirc?

[RandA lThor]

7 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

I did.  NYN quotes later others.  I think Tig and Ithi come to mind iirc?

Again sorry for not doing my own research, need to go, but Tigs was the one who tied for the last vote and was talking about how she was tied/actually first right? Not a great look tbh, seemed to care more about getting credit for voting, as opposed to getting credit for the discovery process (like Ithi).

 

That being said, Ithi wanting credit for discovery could also be scummy (easy way to get a big town lean), but also could be very frustrated town who felt the high of getting someone, and then not getting to join in celebrations. Non-AI to me

[RandA lThor]

Thank you @Nynaeve for reacting to literally the post I needed to check for the above 😂 Yeah, with no more DPR fun, Dice still unvoteable, and dEd, Tigs might be next up for me.

[Zander?]

I think Heavys a better choice.  He's been online but I can't remember the last time he's posted anything add that to my concerns with that slot.  I fon't think I'm like opposed to a Tig lunch ATP tho fwiw.

[Nynaeve]

5 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

Thank you @Nynaeve for reacting to literally the post I needed to check for the above 😂 Yeah, with no more DPR fun, Dice still unvoteable, and dEd, Tigs might be next up for me.

 

Sure thing

[Nynaeve]

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

I think Heavys a better choice.  He's been online but I can't remember the last time he's posted anything add that to my concerns with that slot.  I fon't think I'm like opposed to a Tig lunch ATP tho fwiw.

 

I tend to agree.

If I recall I voted ed since we were talking amongst ourselves and you had a town vibe from tigs and verb had a town vibe from heavy. Ed seemed the constant and so the obvious choice at the time.

 

In preperation for d3 it would be good for @Verbal32 to give more insight since he played with heavy before. And anyone else that has experience with him really and is town should give their 2 cents.

 

It's a shame we don't have an iso function cause it would have been good to see if ed ever mentions tigs/heavy and if anything of significance stands out. I don't wanna promise cause I have limited time but I will try to get to it later before bed. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

32 minutes ago, RandA lThor said:

Again sorry for not doing my own research, need to go, but Tigs was the one who tied for the last vote and was talking about how she was tied/actually first right? Not a great look tbh, seemed to care more about getting credit for voting, as opposed to getting credit for the discovery process (like Ithi).

 

That being said, Ithi wanting credit for discovery could also be scummy (easy way to get a big town lean), but also could be very frustrated town who felt the high of getting someone, and then not getting to join in celebrations. Non-AI to me

Don't you even start. Did you read after Ed claimed? Did you just start from when he got the name wrong.

 

There was all kinds of hoo ha about believing and not believing and I'm pretty sure at one point there were requests for other people to unvote.

 

You guys, although tbf Rand was adamant we should vote Ed, were going freaking round and round until I mentioned garbage set up info from Ed. And then when I said why I was voting him he said he protected nyn.

 

There's even another post from Dice? Saying nah I got that wrong and that's not what Ed was saying.

 

And of course Ed did lie and gave wrong info and changed the name of his protect.

 

But cheese louise forgive me if I was super Fluffing happy that I caught that error.

 

If I get lynched because I parked in the wrong spot, while you all yuck it up at how clever you were to spot the wrong name.

 

When the wrong name would not even had been said if I didn't call out the set up info.

 

Then I don't know what to tell you.

 

Jerk.