90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[DPR]

5 hours ago, Zander? said:

 

Strongarm would kill through the vest wouldn't?

The Strongman shot is 1x. It’s doubtful mafia would waste that on n1 unless they knew they had a target worth using it on,  like a cop. 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Ithi and DPR were one and two on Marsh. I'm no Wagonomics expert but when Shad solved the Citrus Bandits game from reading the D1 VC, two wolves were one and two on the train of the miselimination.

 

Ithi is giving DPR town cred here with as far as I can see zero reasoning. A softly softly approach to maybe the whole cop claim thing is tricky but I'm not WIFOMing. So essentially, a carefully crafted post that says nothing but gives DPR (and Nyn) town cred, I guess to not go over the top. 

 

Could someone, I mean anyone, please act like they were town? Even if you were only pretending it would make such a change. I h8 this game. 

 

Ithi, can I ask you why you think DPR is town positive despite misrepping Marsh and jumping on his "slip" that was not a slip, it was just a bit clumsy? Should players be allowed to get away with misrepping what a town player says and then eliminating them on the basis of that misrep? Curious to hear your thoughts. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

But there was the whole weirdness when he gave his result. Like it took several posts and a mod check?

 

Mods don't generally put stuff in PMs that give an advantage and if he was the cop and got a no result then that would generally mean his action had been blocked. I don't think I'd ever worry about getting killed for giving a no result result.

 

But a Mafia wouldn't waste a fake claim cop with a garbage no result? Or would they because then they wouldn't have to give a name out.

 

I hate this.

 

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

5 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

 

Ithi, can I ask you why you think DPR is town positive despite misrepping Marsh and jumping on his "slip" that was not a slip, it was just a bit clumsy? Should players be allowed to get away with misrepping what a town player says and then eliminating them on the basis of that misrep? Curious to hear your thoughts. 

 

What even was that slip anyways? Do you know what it was? What was the mis rep? Do you think DPR is Mafia? If so, why not vote for him yourself instead of encouraging others to vote for him.

 

I was just seeing DPR agree with me that a sudden defense of someone I'd voted was not normal behaviour. And Marsh even said he did that to see what would happen. But I thought he only said he planned it because I was voting him and then other people were voting him and he'd got backed up in a corner. So I'm like good, I'm not the only person who thought that was super suss.

 

I was wrong though.

 

I dunno, I just think that if DPR was mafia he'd be doing more than telling us to think for ourselves and re-read certain things.

 

I'm pretty sure a Mafia would want people to do more than 'form their own opinions' and he seems genuinely frustrated that they can't see something that's super obvious to him?

 

I think Mafia DPR would have just told us what was so important because then it would have helped the Mafia team for us to know.

 

I see you also being very neutral about everything and wanting players opinions on other players. 

 

Why don't you tell me your thoughts now on DPR?

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

13 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I hate this.

Totally agree,lol

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Lol why have you got a Guest?

 

Who's come for dinner hahaha

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Why don't you tell me your thoughts now on DPR?

I think he is the definition of a wolf. His actions are as clear as definite mafia as I think I'll ever get. Have been from D1. 

 

What is bugging me is I cannot tie his actions into the bigger picture. I only voted for DPR D1, so far I doubt I'll vote for someone else. But not having an inkling of that bigger picture leaves me with doubts. 

[ed2funy]

38 minutes ago, DPR said:

I’m beginning to think you’re serious with this because you keep mentioning it…

 

To be clear, my post was a sarcastic laugh at Rand who, after the d1 lynch, did actually post the “2nd voter on a mislynch is mafia” wagonomics gem. 

 

Please look it up so we don’t have to waste more time on your nonsense. Thx

very on brand of you to ignore anything I’ve said to focus on the joke post to misrep everything. 
again, perfectly happy with my vote 

[DPR]

8 hours ago, ed2funy said:

It’s in my last like ten posts. He’s being hypocritical, framing lazier than my house builders, and giving half ass thoughts on half his posts expecting people to interpret (part of being hypocritical actually). He pushed a narrative over NAs because his pirate brain can’t comprehend other possibilities. He’s relying on aura, I think someone said, and I agree and like that term 

Gonna go ahead and call this out as well. 

It’s easy to label somebody as “hypocritical” when you aren’t providing examples. If you think I have been, point out the post that made you think so. 
 

Same thing with “framing”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. If you are calling my sussing dice “framing” then I’m going to point out that’s how the game is played. 
 

“half ass” is subjective, and you can think and say whatever you like, but I’m pretty sure I haven’t done anything half assed lol. Again, examples are really helpful…

 

I don’t expect anyone to interpret the points I make. I’ve been very clear about the majority of them - no interpretation required, or in the case of pg.  32, I am genuinely curious what other people see. It helps me to know if I’m tinfoiling and need to move past something. 
 

I haven’t pushed a narrative, I’ve proposed what I think is the most likely scenario. Again, that’s how this game is played. I put it out there and everyone else will make of it what they will.

 

I have defended some of the points because I feel like some folks are going out of there way to make things more complicated than they need to be, and that’s a great way to get conversations going to spot wolves. It’s called activity. You should try it lol.

 

For the aura nonsense I’ll say this- you can say you don’t like my attitude, I’m aggressive, sarcastic and poke at people. I talk smack and make fun of comments I find entertaining. I don’t hold with Miss Moffit’s Book of Mafia Manners and I’m unconventional at times. You can not like all that, start a I Hate Pirates Society and vote me as many times as you like. But you gotta come up with reasons better than innuendo and aura lol. 
 

Heavy does this as well - he didn’t like how I laid into Marsh, but Marsh brought that on himself. It is what it is. 
 

Anyway, reasons are good, vague insinuations are not and activity above all. That’s how I see it and how I’m playing it. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just now, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

I think he is the definition of a wolf. His actions are as clear as definite mafia as I think I'll ever get. Have been from D1. 

 

What is bugging me is I cannot tie his actions into the bigger picture. I only voted for DPR D1, so far I doubt I'll vote for someone else. But not having an inkling of that bigger picture leaves me with doubts. 

What is the definition of a wolf?

What actions are clear as definite?

 

Those are very general statements. What has he actually done?

 

See this is why you are on my list of overly neutral players. You say wolfy wolf and when asked why you say cos wolfy wolf.

[DPR]

2 minutes ago, ed2funy said:

very on brand of you to ignore anything I’ve said to focus on the joke post to misrep everything. 
again, perfectly happy with my vote 

lol

[ed2funy]

Take the lawl part of my vote reasoning to imply my whole vote is a joke. 
ignoring the rest means he doesn’t need to address anything else. 
 

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

Miss Moffit’s Book of Mafia Manners

Now available on Amazon and Emby Press

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

7 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

What even was that slip anyways? Do you know what it was? What was the mis rep?

Marsh said, in an effort to be nice [to me as a new player], I made Ithi and Turin think I was defending Heavy. He did not say he was pretending. He did not say he set a trap. That was everyone else. He said he was being nice which was misunderstood. But by taking the second clause out of context, people thought he had set a trap. Me too. But when you actually read it closely, that isn't what he said, there wasn't a slip, it was just clumsy. Yet DPR quoted what he said, brushed off his explanation, brushed off my interjection (which contained my vote so I doubt he did not see it), and claimed it said something it clearly did not, no matter how easy it was to misread. 

 

From his reasoning, Marsh pretty much had to be Town, in my eyes, but DPR eliminated him anyway, with some help. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Marsh said, in an effort to be nice [to me as a new player], I made Ithi and Turin think I was defending Heavy. He did not say he was pretending. He did not say he set a trap. That was everyone else. He said he was being nice which was misunderstood. But by taking the second clause out of context, people thought he had set a trap. Me too. But when you actually read it closely, that isn't what he said, there wasn't a slip, it was just clumsy. Yet DPR quoted what he said, brushed off his explanation, brushed off my interjection (which contained my vote so I doubt he did not see it), and claimed it said something it clearly did not, no matter how easy it was to misread. 

 

From his reasoning, Marsh pretty much had to be Town, in my eyes, but DPR eliminated him anyway, with some help. 

You've read the rest of the game right? People don't believe that Dice is a cop. They certainly don't have to believe that someone was just being nice.

 

I certainly didn't believe him but you've not called me out for mis repping.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

4 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

What is the definition of a wolf?

What actions are clear as definite?

 

Those are very general statements. What has he actually done?

 

See this is why you are on my list of overly neutral players. You say wolfy wolf and when asked why you say cos wolfy wolf.

Ow, that misrep hurts, Ithi. You asked what was my opinion of DPR. I answered. 

 

The reasons for my opinion are: He is full of anti-town rhetoric. You guys suck so bad. I've never seen so much dumbass. You know who else had that? Wolf!Lenlo. Exactly the same tone. Exactly. Can taste it at the back of my throat. 

 

Especially D1, he was dismissive of everyone, not just wolf reads. One word disparaging replies, Omg, lol,etc. Jokey memes in reply to people trying to solve. 

 

He misrepped Marsh and pushed for his elimination despite being called up on his "mistake". 

 

All the vitriol with Verb and Rand and Ed - does not feel even close to town for me. 

 

But yup, he is just a wolfy wolf. I got nothing more than that. 

[DPR]

15 hours ago, DPR said:

is the Condemner trying to get their target lynched or just “hunting” them? There as a whole discussion yesterday - I gotta look back, but no time now 

 

15 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

The condemner randomly picks someone as a night action, no need to lynch. 

 

15 hours ago, DPR said:

Alrighty then. 
 

And you know this how? 

 

15 hours ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Because Stone Cold says so. Or Darthe, I forget which. 

 

14 hours ago, Darthe said:

Ah, yeah I did cover this one yesterday but it wasn’t the most clear.

 

basically, they’re an SK but their bullet only works on one target who was randomly selected from all players (except themselves) at the start of the game.

Onto new business. The above posts are in order of occurrence. I pinged when Heavy described how the condemner role worked - I said so - and then Darthe made his official post. 
 

Now, I don’t want be framey lol, so I’ll just ask: Does anyone else see that Heavy described the role with details that nobody else knew, and then Darthe confirmed it? 
 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

3 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

You've read the rest of the game right? People don't believe that Dice is a cop. They certainly don't have to believe that someone was just being nice.

 

I certainly didn't believe him but you've not called me out for mis repping.

DPR claimed he said something he didn't. And while I got the same impression first time I read Marsh's post, when you read it carefully it was clear what it said, and it was not what DPR was claiming it said even while quoting it and discussing it with Marsh. Marsh did not make a slip, DPR just felt he could get away with pretending he did and he seems to be right. 

 

And I think I have called attention to role in this several times actually. And I'm currently trying to unravel what it is that have going on with DPR, so not quite sure why you feel you got away with it. 

[ed2funy]

14 minutes ago, DPR said:

Gonna go ahead and call this out as well. 

This whole post is full of horse dung and you know it. Almost every single one of my posts has a quote in it I’m directly replying to and giving my exact thoughts 

instead you take a later summary post where I don’t have the quotes. 
 

Manipulation through and through. 

[DPR]

lol timing 

[Ithillian Turambar]

1 minute ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Ow, that misrep hurts, Ithi. You asked what was my opinion of DPR. I answered. 

 

The reasons for my opinion are: He is full of anti-town rhetoric. You guys suck so bad. I've never seen so much dumbass. You know who else had that? Wolf!Lenlo. Exactly the same tone. Exactly. Can taste it at the back of my throat. 

 

Especially D1, he was dismissive of everyone, not just wolf reads. One word disparaging replies, Omg, lol,etc. Jokey memes in reply to people trying to solve. 

 

He misrepped Marsh and pushed for his elimination despite being called up on his "mistake". 

 

All the vitriol with Verb and Rand and Ed - does not feel even close to town for me. 

 

But yup, he is just a wolfy wolf. I got nothing more than that. 

Yay I got a mis rep.

 

If you think he is just being mean then just call him out. Don't go asking other people what they think of him. 

 

I don't like the name calling so I tell him.

 

Len was a bit hard in that game but he apologised and said he'd come in with a different site attitude and once he'd set the tone he couldn't really change it cos he was mafia.

 

Wow. Reminds me of other chats we've had.

 

So, just because you don't like how someone plays, that doesn't mean they are a bad guy. You've got to learn and look at what they actually do, and how that affects the game.

 

And apparently all this is quite tame compared to other sites anyways.

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

2 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

 

 

 

Onto new business. The above posts are in order of occurrence. I pinged when Heavy described how the condemner role worked - I said so - and then Darthe made his official post. 
 

Now, I don’t want be framey lol, so I’ll just ask: Does anyone else see that Heavy described the role with details that nobody else knew, and then Darthe confirmed it? 
 

 

Sweet jebus, batman. If you get away with this hats off to you. You are literally quoting where I quoted Darthe explaining. And quoting Darthe where he said he had already explained (which I had quoted). 

 

What a wolfy liar. While quoting the posts that prove you are lying but hoping your force of personality covers that up, just like you did with Marsh. 

 

I commend you on the size of your cojones, señor. If people fall for this, just lol. Yet another smoking gun in DPR's hand. Will anyone notice this time? 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

5 minutes ago, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

And I think I have called attention to your role in this several times actually. And I'm currently trying to unravel what it is that you have going on with DPR, so not quite sure why you feel you got away with it. 

Sorry missed a pronoun twice there that might have made that tricky to understand. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

6 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

 

 

 

Onto new business. The above posts are in order of occurrence. I pinged when Heavy described how the condemner role worked - I said so - and then Darthe made his official post. 
 

Now, I don’t want be framey lol, so I’ll just ask: Does anyone else see that Heavy described the role with details that nobody else knew, and then Darthe confirmed it? 
 

 

Yeah, I knew it was a random thing too. I didn't know it was a shooter. I thought it was a vote thing. But I definitely read, in either the set up post or the additional info post that the target was randomly selected.

[Turin Turambar]

6 minutes ago, DPR said:

 

 

 

 

Onto new business. The above posts are in order of occurrence. I pinged when Heavy described how the condemner role worked - I said so - and then Darthe made his official post. 
 

Now, I don’t want be framey lol, so I’ll just ask: Does anyone else see that Heavy described the role with details that nobody else knew, and then Darthe confirmed it? 
 

 

This is garbage. I knew that during the night and posted it. How did I know? I asked Darthe and he told me. .maybe ask the mod if you don't know or are confused. 

 

I'm pretty convinced your mafia right now. I still want competing  trains. I think Rand is also. I'm gonna vote him in my next post. I got more thoughts after.