S3E7 - Goldeneyes

[Fiona_12]

After my first watch I wasn't sure what I thought. I always watch without subtitles first, and then again with subtitles to catch the dialogue I missed. It usually takes 2 watches for an episode to really sink in for me anyway.

 

I liked Perrin's conversation with Dain. A lot was said in that short conversation. But really, Dain needs to learn that Perrin has an actual name.

 

I like that were seeing evidence of Perrin's wolf senses. First, he knows it's Faile trying to sneak up on him, then he hears the whoosh of the spear before it hits Alanna, and then he smells that Fain is afraid. 

 

Interesting conversation between Perrin and Mat's sisters, too. They let us know that the Cauthons are still not held in high esteem, and I loved the girls making fun of Mat. A very younger sibling kind of thing to do, and a brief moment of levity was nice. 

 

Maybe show Dain is going to be more honorable than book Dain. (In spite of taking a swig of brandy in every scene.)

 

Good riddance to Valda! Although, it's a shame to kill of such a great actor so soon. I wonder how he would have done as Fain.

 

Perrin lets Fain go, and Fain takes him up on the deal in direct disobedience to the Dark Ones wishes. Could his punishment for that be used to develop his character some more?

 

Maksim - sigh. His inspiration speech was dreadful. I hope that wasn't supposed be an Aragorn at the gates of Mordor kind of speech. I hope the reason Tam wasn't in the show was because he wasn't available. If they chose to leave him out of this season, BAD choice. But at least we saw the villagers training and preparing, as well as Alanna training the girls to link with her, NOT try to fight themselves. Oh, but suddenly, Daise is a strong channeler. (Where was that power during previous trollocs attacks?)

 

Faile just isn't doing it for me, and I know I'm very much in the minority I'm that. Sometimes it's her lines, like the Whitecloaks being called Children so they can't count (groan). 

 

Aram killing the trollocs and then looking at Ila with tears in his eyes was moving. And it's always good to see Maria Doyle Kennedy.

 

Trollocs sure do die easily...

 

RIP Loial! I got teary eyed at that, both times. Our favorite Ogier had a very heroic end. The excerpt from his book was great, especially because it included what Rand says about Perrin to the Dark One in his "they still fight" speech. 

 

The Sing of Manetheren song was a great touch!

 

Overall, a pretty good episode. It had its problems as others have pointed out, but it had it's good points, too.

[Skipp]

I will preface this by saying Perrin is my favourite character in the book and his storyline in tSR is possibly my favourite arc throughout the series.

 

When I finished episode 7 this morning I was disappointed.  To be fair I was tired from waking up early to watch before work and I was distracted by other things. 

 

Through out the day I perused reddit a bit and enjoyed the show only "WoTchers" reaction to the episode.  Even the book spoiler threads were generally positive.

 

Well I watched it again this evening and enjoyed it immensely more.  Not sure if it was state of mind or what.

 

A few things I wish to comment on;

• Everything Faile is amazing.  Absolutely loved how they wrote her and Perrin in this episode.
• Loial went out like a badass.  Not sure if he will stay dead, in theory he could fall to another platform but I think he will stay dead.  I heard from others that Rafe mentioned on the aftershow that they can't just keep collecting characters, some will have to die or be removed.  And honestly I think that is a good thing.  One of my pet peeves with the series is the lack of losses the side of the Light take until the final book.
• Perrin and the wolves and slayer.  I think they are purposefully stretching out his story beats.  So much happens to him in this book and moving Slayer and the wolf dreams till later isn't a bad idea.  No idea if that is the plan but I think it is.
• Perrin turning himself over to the Whitecloaks! I kinda like this.  The Whitecloaks have been made more nuanced and competent in the show so I don't mind that they joined in on the fighting.  Plus this would give Perrin a story when he was largely absent from the next book.  I wonder if it will be more of moving the story beats from later to earlier or be something entirely new.
• Padan Fain......I have been so curious as to what they have been doing with him.  Very different from where he would be in the books.  Since they didn't kill him I figure they have some plan for him.  I wonder if he next heads to the tower to great Elaida and potentially retrieve the dagger.  That is presumably where it is.  Potentially begin his Mordeth arc, I could see this as being the plan from the start.  Instead of having him be crazy the entire series and ultimately do not much, concentrate that for the back half and maybe have him do something.
• Valda..... ooooooh thats gotta burn.  Nothing of value has been lost lol.  I wonder what they plan to do with the person who took him out in the books.
• Aram,  What is the plan?  Slow his arc and join Perrin or leaving him in the TR?
• Finally, Weep for Manetheran....... HOLY JEEBUS, full body chills.  Perfect call back.

[Fiona_12]

  On 4/11/2025 at 4:17 AM, Skipp said:

Valda..... ooooooh thats gotta burn.  Nothing of value has been lost lol.  I wonder what they plan to do with the person who took him out in the books.

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That is the only thing that makes Valda's early death a bummer. That was one of Galad's shining moments!

[Mailman]

Sloppy amateur garbage.

 

Nearly impossible to tell what the hell was going on in the battle scenes, Dark scenes, jump cuts, characters seemingly teleporting into different positions. Impossible to tell which side was doing what. Despite all that and probably a sad point is that this was probably the best battle scene the show has produced. Easily better than the garbage ones in season 1 and it's a toss-up between it and the end of season 2.

 

The obsession with maidens kiss needs to end.

 

RIP Burger King. 

 

Bloody healing and pin cushion Alanna

 

Please bloody stop with the Maksim and Alanna drivel end it now.

 

Edited April 11 by Mailman

[Mailman]

Anyone want to have a chat about episode 1's battle in the tower now and how sitters could not produce shields because they were not trained to do so.

 

Daise bloody Congar just produced a shield as her first channeling ability and it was insta cast as well!

[Gary Again]

I can see this one being controversial but I was pretty impressed on my second rewatch. I always watch twice because otherwise I forget a lot but what I loved about this one is that Perrin figured out the blacksmith puzzle that was the battle of two rivers and I really love that because it was one of the things that RJ kept coming back to with Perrin is it took him a while but he had deep wisdom to figure out a situation and that's what happened here with Padan Fain and also with Dain Bornhald and I really like it. Perrin was in the middle of raging but he took a moment to ask why and his solution tied into the way of the leaf and the hammer axe thing and Perrin figured out the best way out of the situation to save the most lives and did it no matter what it cost him and that line about Fain being the only one there afraid to die was devastating and it tied into his wolf senses so I really liked it. Then I feel like Bornhald will take on the Galad arc as the judge for Perrin and it's strange to move the trial arc up but it does make sense to happen after the two rivers it condenses a lot of story which they need to do and it gives a good arc for Bornhald too and gives Perrin something to do while Mat and Rand are building what they need to build..

 

I agree Loial and Valda do have things they do but it's so sparse it probably doesn't warrant keeping an actor under contract and they do have to introduce new characters so it makes sense they have to make room. Really loved what both of them brought to the series but honestly the way they went out had good impact Loial accomplished something significant and the two rivers battle does have to have consequences so it was a good time and way to do it and Valda just served a really strong story beat and was a satisfying way to watch that dude go even though I thought he did an amazing job.

 

The fight I thought they actually did a good job with it, the scale of it finally looked right. I also liked how they used the defensive structures and retreating I think it did get confusing with them holding the pass and then Alanna getting jumped and then all of the sudden everyone was in the square I feel like a scene or something got cut for time there and it almost worked but it did just seem really jumpy. I do think Slayer was the one that was drilling Alanna and the wisdom with arrows so I feel like this was just the start of the second part of that story. I did like Alanna's channeling in the pass though you always see fireballs and lightning but that was like a good old ice storm and it was devastating. I liked the two rivers bow got a shout out and I really liked Faile and Perrin fighting together and then Perrin going berserk. There was also a nice moment where Faile and Perrin fought together in I believe the same spot that he killed his wife and they just started rolling through trollocks so I felt like that was kind of like Perrin getting over a block. Lol that in that moment Perrin is like Hammer or Axe why not both? Overall the battle seemed good to me it went south pretty quick and was pretty brutal but it didn't seem too dark and I like that the moment you thought the white cloaks were coming to save the day Fain just stabs everyone in the back it was nice to have different beats play out in a battle and that was what happened at Fal Dara in the books. On that note I like that Perrin told Loial the same thing that Agelmar said which was even if we die we can tell the world and maybe they will live I thought that was a cool callback. Also liked when Loial said that Perrin's name will sing in the world's ears. And then as tough as it was to see Loial go that was another beautiful shot so I think the cinematographers have done an amazing job.

 

I actually agree that the healing has gotten out of hand but I don't mind it with Alanna because she is green Aja and they are supposed to basically be warriors so Alanna and her Warder/s should be more formidible than say Moiraine and Lan even though Lan is who he is a green and her warders should be born to battle and just ready to fight. I also really liked her line about she should be out building an army because that was one of the biggest complaints with the Aes Sedai is the greens should have been leading armies and the yellows should have had hospitals etc so she should be a military bada$$ and I kind of like how she says she isn't going to the tower something more important is happening and she sees the army. Like if I see a yellow sister start tanking like Alanna I agree it starts to be too much but I don't mind seeing a green sister and her warders tank that is what they should be good at. I feel like maybe we need to stop looking at Alanna as an Aes Sedai and more like a straight up fighter like Lan or Bain/Chiad if they could channel.

 

Some random things was I loved the Cauthon girls ripping on Mat that was perfect, I liked them and Alana and the drunk wisdom I thought all of that was funny just the Cauthon girls in general were amazing. Then part of me wonders that maybe the Cauthon girls talent is burning white cloaks. I liked how they explain ji'e'to with both Loial and Bain and Chiad and I thought it was funny how Loial was the one learning hand talk. Also the hand talk signals are kind of funny because you can understand them without the subtitles like they would bang Aram if he wasn't a coward lol. I can see how some of the changes bothered people but I feel like they really nailed this one.

Edited April 11 by Gary Again

[Fiona_12]

  On 4/11/2025 at 4:51 AM, Mailman said:

it's a toss-up between it and the end of season 2.

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With the exception of the fact that Mat blew the horn, I think this battle was better. In spite of its problems, the stakes felt real.

 

Perrin making a deal with Fain felt very off at first, but then I realized it was the only way he could save the people. They were gonna lose if the battle continued.

[A Memory Of Why]

  On 4/11/2025 at 3:28 AM, The_Watcher_And_Wanderer said:

I agree 💯. This is one of the things that ruins the tone and makes this story not feel like WOT. I mean what if Peter Jackson had decided to take this approach with LOTR? Can you imagine Sam Gamgee dropping F-bombs?!

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Maybe it's just me but I swear they had first age cussing in the books, though it was hidden behind subetly.

 

E.g. "Rand stood up and said a particularly foul curse" (Paraphrased: I think that was Far Madding with Caddy).

 

I don't think he was saying "mothers milk in a cup" which is apparently not a nice thing to say. Again, could just be my interpretation..

 

P.s. in saying that, no, I don't like the Aiel cussing in such a fashion. That's just weird.

[DaddyFinn]

The episode was nearly perfect. I really can't think of any real negatives. 

 

- The battle had scale, death, surprising twists and a logical outcome with Perrin and Fain. I like that Alanna didn't just save everyone.

 

- I'm not 100% sure that Loial is dead. I kinda hope he is so the moment with his book and his voice-over after don't go to waste.

 

- Aram's arc evolving naturally.

 

- Faile! Perrin!

 

- Taim and Abel were missing for some reason. Maybe they'll help Perrin?

 

- Fade(s) would have been a nice touch.

 

- Daise went out like a legend.

 

- Valda got a fitting end. Bloodthirsty S.O.B.

 

Can't wait for the Finale.

[JayceDa]

I think Faile is getting better. I must admit I wasn't sure about her when she first appeared, but in this episode the facial features, like the slight smile when Perrin tells her to kill the ones he misses, makes her feel a lot better to me. She was a very sly character in the books and it is starting to look like the actor is playing her like that, I hope it will continue to get better.

 

I'll add, and this has really made me feel a bit 'meh' towards this episode, that there were no wolves. None, not a one. No howls in the distance, no mention of feeling them, nothing at all except the line from Faile about how Trollocs fear wolves to explain the banner. The wolves have come to help Perrin twice now, why not here? Budget, probably, meh.

 

At the end of season 1 I honestly thought they had killed Loial off, I know that there is a budget and with all endeavours like this they have to merge characters and reduce the amount of "names" on screen, so it didn't seem that bad a choice as Loial doesn't really do a lot. But then, he was instrumental in the closing of the ways, not just at the Two Rivers. So him doing this and then getting the drop, as it were, that feels like a better ending for him.

[Turin Turambar]

I think they omitted the fades to allow Fain to be in direct control of the trollocs which allowed them to execute some actual tactics. Fades basically just drove the trollocs into a frenzy and sent them off in a direction, mostly out of fear of the fades. They would have attacked the whitecloaks and had much more difficulty getting into the closed gates of EF.

[DaddyFinn]

I've seen mentions that the Hero of the Horn theme played during Loial's final moments.

 

Edit. I've not seen many mentions of the benefits of warder bond for both Aes Sedai and warder. Maybe that explains some of Alanna's survivability?

Edited April 11 by DaddyFinn

[Mailman]

  On 4/11/2025 at 8:25 AM, DaddyFinn said:

I've seen mentions that the Hero of the Horn theme played during Loial's final moments

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No ones ever really gone. 

[Ralph]

  On 4/11/2025 at 8:14 AM, Turin Turambar said:

I think they omitted the fades to allow Fain to be in direct control of the trollocs which allowed them to execute some actual tactics. Fades basically just drove the trollocs into a frenzy and sent them off in a direction, mostly out of fear of the fades. They would have attacked the whitecloaks and had much more difficulty getting into the closed gates of EF.

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I thought similarly, plus Fain controlled them and did not control the Fades. Remember he killed the one in S2 (and book 2)

[notpropaganda73]

just to address Alanna surviving these wounds etc. 

 

I could get on board (though I would still think it was silly) if they were going down the "Green Ajah, battle Ajah badass" thing with her managing to deal with these wounds. I would also be ok with this being a benefit of the Warder bond. 

 

But the fact is the show has set up Healing and these OTT injuries not having any impact with other characters. Nynaeve stabbed how many times by a Gray Man? And Liandrin with the swords through the chest from Alanna's warders. Neither character has a warder bond benefit. But they are fine (immediately after being Healed in the same scene in Liandrin's case).

 

So because of everything else about the show with arrows and impaling and horrific wounds - I just don't believe the show now whenever someone is injured. Why should I care? Unless I see a head chopped off or characters literally say "they're dead" and looking sad, I will just assume they're gonna be fine. 

 

I'm sorry to be so hung up on this but it really does annoy me, in a season where I've generally been really happy with the adaptation.

[king of nowhere]

  On 4/11/2025 at 5:32 AM, Gary Again said:

 

The fight I thought they actually did a good job with it, the scale of it finally looked right. I also liked how they used the defensive structures and retreating 

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Yes, i appreciated that. Though to be honest, hollywood has set my bar pretty low. Generally armies defend a castle by charging out of the main door, and they fight in front of the stakes so that someone can be pushed backwards and impaled.

Anything better than that, i count at least a decent showing of the battle.

 

 

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Some random things was I loved the Cauthon girls ripping on Mat that was perfect, I liked them and Alana and the drunk wisdom I thought all of that was funny just the Cauthon girls in general were amazing. 

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Random things i loved: the way bain and chiad smiled before defending the waygate. They clearly love that they get to fight. Aiel are so unhinged.

 

The tuata'an quoting the line about burying the dead and moving on, what else is there?

 

[notpropaganda73]

maybe it's my Irish bias but I really hope we get a bit more of Aram and Ila, I have loved pretty much every scene of the Tuatha'an in the show and these actors are some of my favourites

[king of nowhere]

  On 4/11/2025 at 10:30 AM, notpropaganda73 said:

I just don't believe the show now whenever someone is injured. Why should I care? Unless I see a head chopped off or characters literally say "they're dead" and looking sad, I will just assume they're gonna be fine. 

 

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Many people have voiced this complaint, and frankly i don't get it.

I mean, yes, i absolutely agree with everything written in the quoted paragraph. I just don't see it being a bad thing.

Yes, in this world people can get healed from near death. Yes, this changes how a fight goes, at least when channelers are involved. You just have to accept that this world has different rules and expectations.

 

Saying that healing cheapens the impact of wounds is like complaining, in star wars, that luke getting a mechanical hand cheapens the impact of him being made a cripple. Now whenever i see someone losing an arm, i expect them to be fine a few days later. Yes, the story works like that, and you can write the story around it.

 

[Mailman]

  On 4/11/2025 at 10:44 AM, king of nowhere said:

Many people have voiced this complaint, and frankly i don't get it.

I mean, yes, i absolutely agree with everything written in the quoted paragraph. I just don't see it being a bad thing.

Yes, in this world people can get healed from near death. Yes, this changes how a fight goes, at least when channelers are involved. You just have to accept that this world has different rules and expectations.

 

Saying that healing cheapens the impact of wounds is like complaining, in star wars, that luke getting a mechanical hand cheapens the impact of him being made a cripple. Now whenever i see someone losing an arm, i expect them to be fine a few days later. Yes, the story works like that, and you can write the story around it.

 

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I'm not sure using star wars is that great an example anymore as light saber wounds are now constantly shrugged off.

[Mirefox]

  On 4/11/2025 at 10:44 AM, king of nowhere said:

Many people have voiced this complaint, and frankly i don't get it.

I mean, yes, i absolutely agree with everything written in the quoted paragraph. I just don't see it being a bad thing.

Yes, in this world people can get healed from near death. Yes, this changes how a fight goes, at least when channelers are involved. You just have to accept that this world has different rules and expectations.

 

Saying that healing cheapens the impact of wounds is like complaining, in star wars, that luke getting a mechanical hand cheapens the impact of him being made a cripple. Now whenever i see someone losing an arm, i expect them to be fine a few days later. Yes, the story works like that, and you can write the story around it.

 

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They try to create dramatic moments out of injuries, though, and it doesn’t work when you’re in the Boy Who Cried Wolf territory.

 

Take this episode, for example - when Alanna gets impaled, Maksim doubles over as if he’s also been impaled, right at a moment of battle.  Were we supposed to be worried about him?  I shrugged it off and knew he’d be back on his feet in a mere moment, which he was.  They’ve sapped all gravitas, all stakes from this show.

 

How are we even supposed to know Loial is dead?  He’s already come back from being stabbed by the ruby dagger.  I felt absolutely nothing at seeing his sacrifice.  For all I know, when Rand discovers skimming they’ll just bump into him floating in that void.

 

There is also a fairly significant death in the books very likely coming up and it was a huge revelation that perhaps said character could be brought back.  The questions surrounding that, and the impact of that discovery, are neutered for us since we more or less expect it at this point.

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[JayceDa]

  On 4/11/2025 at 10:37 AM, notpropaganda73 said:

maybe it's my Irish bias but I really hope we get a bit more of Aram and Ila, I have loved pretty much every scene of the Tuatha'an in the show and these actors are some of my favourites

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I liked them way more than I did the in books, Aram is a much more likeable character here than he ever was there.

[notpropaganda73]

  On 4/11/2025 at 10:44 AM, king of nowhere said:

Many people have voiced this complaint, and frankly i don't get it.

I mean, yes, i absolutely agree with everything written in the quoted paragraph. I just don't see it being a bad thing.

Yes, in this world people can get healed from near death. Yes, this changes how a fight goes, at least when channelers are involved. You just have to accept that this world has different rules and expectations.

 

Saying that healing cheapens the impact of wounds is like complaining, in star wars, that luke getting a mechanical hand cheapens the impact of him being made a cripple. Now whenever i see someone losing an arm, i expect them to be fine a few days later. Yes, the story works like that, and you can write the story around it.

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My point is that if that is the world they are going with, away from all the lore where channelers get fatigued and Healing doesn't magically restore you to full health with no downsides - I don't find it interesting. I don't find the battles or injuries at all engaging. I find it incredibly boring, in fact, because anyone who is hurt will be fine within moments. If you don't, that's fine, I'm glad you're enjoying those scenes. But to me it feels cheap and I just want to get to the next bit where the story progresses because we're wasting time with people acting all hurt and they'll be up and fine within moments.

 

What story are they trying to tell, what are they trying to achieve by these moments? Why should we, the viewers, care if someone is stabbed through the gut, so long as a channeler is nearby? And I swear, if someone says "they're raising the stakes" I will tear the last remaining bits of hair out of my bald head. There are no stakes! Other than the ones impaling characters.

 

I don't want to be watching those scenes thinking "well they'll be fine, let's move on", I want to be in the scene and worried for whoever is injured.

 

Luke losing his hand was earned, by all the moments leading up to it. There are stakes because he has lost the duel, we're not worried in that moment about him "being a cripple" we're worried about all hope being lost, will Vader kill him, wait Vader tries to recruit him, what? The mechanical arm comes later, when the film is ending, so we leave the film knowing he'll be ok but there are much bigger issues in his story.

 

By rights the more serious suspension of disbelief in that scene is when he drops from the ledge and down a garbage chute. But I think what you're misunderstanding about my complaints is that I am absolutely open to waving things away as part of fantasy or sci-fi, this is my favourite genre after all. I'm not looking for constant logical explanations in every scene, or characters exposition dumping that "this-is-how-things-work" in this world. I just want consistency and well written, earned scenes where I am engaged in the outcomes. I didn't care that Luke fell through the air and conveniently landed without significant injury, because all the way up to that felt earned and true to the characters and story they were telling. 

 

I'll stop ranting about it now, it is what it is in the show at this point - but like I said the next time it happens (and it will) I'll just be fast-forwarding through it. 

[Mirefox]

  On 4/11/2025 at 12:36 PM, notpropaganda73 said:

 

My point is that if that is the world they are going with, away from all the lore where channelers get fatigued and Healing doesn't magically restore you to full health with no downsides - I don't find it interesting. I don't find the battles or injuries at all engaging. I find it incredibly boring, in fact, because anyone who is hurt will be fine within moments. If you don't, that's fine, I'm glad you're enjoying those scenes. But to me it feels cheap and I just want to get to the next bit where the story progresses because we're wasting time with people acting all hurt and they'll be up and fine within moments.

 

What story are they trying to tell, what are they trying to achieve by these moments? Why should we, the viewers, care if someone is stabbed through the gut, so long as a channeler is nearby? And I swear, if someone says "they're raising the stakes" I will tear the last remaining bits of hair out of my bald head. There are no stakes! Other than the ones impaling characters.

 

I don't want to be watching those scenes thinking "well they'll be fine, let's move on", I want to be in the scene and worried for whoever is injured.

 

Luke losing his hand was earned, by all the moments leading up to it. There are stakes because he has lost the duel, we're not worried in that moment about him "being a cripple" we're worried about all hope being lost, will Vader kill him, wait Vader tries to recruit him, what? The mechanical arm comes later, when the film is ending, so we leave the film knowing he'll be ok but there are much bigger issues in his story.

 

By rights the more serious suspension of disbelief in that scene is when he drops from the ledge and down a garbage chute. But I think what you're misunderstanding about my complaints is that I am absolutely open to waving things away as part of fantasy or sci-fi, this is my favourite genre after all. I'm not looking for constant logical explanations in every scene, or characters exposition dumping that "this-is-how-things-work" in this world. I just want consistency and well written, earned scenes where I am engaged in the outcomes. I didn't care that Luke fell through the air and conveniently landed without significant injury, because all the way up to that felt earned and true to the characters and story they were telling. 

 

I'll stop ranting about it now, it is what it is in the show at this point - but like I said the next time it happens (and it will) I'll just be fast-forwarding through it. 

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This kind of writing also makes the miraculous mundane.  They’ve already neutered future plot points by showing that nearly anyone can do anything though the power of their feelings…

[SinisterDeath]

  On 4/11/2025 at 4:17 AM, Skipp said:

Perrin and the wolves and slayer.  I think they are purposefully stretching out his story beats.  So much happens to him in this book and moving Slayer and the wolf dreams till later isn't a bad idea.  No idea if that is the plan but I think it is.

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My running theory for Season 4 is that "Lord Luc" and Faile will Pursue Perrin and the White Cloaks as they make their way for Amadicia by way of Caemlyn -> Lugard -> Jehannah -> Amador.... Or as it goes on TV... From the Two Rivers magically to Amador in 3 hours. lol

Anyways, I think "Lord Luc", will become "Slayer" during the night while he and Faile sleep, and that's when he's going to start hunting Perrin with Dark Hounds. Eventually this will lead to Perrin escaping, as their camp is under attack and potentially a confrontation with Dain as he basically tells Perrin to just go after saving him from a Dark Hound.

 

When Perrin kills that Dark Hound, Lord Luc will likely wake up with a similar wound on him, confusing Faile as to what's happening in the white cloak camp, as she would likely be on watch, and wondering why the hell he's wounded.

 

Thus begins the Faile kidnapping arc.

 

[Gary Again]

I kind of wonder if the healing and people coming back is a bit of a joke about how often it happened in the books.  Mat literally died and was brought back to life because Rand blew someone up so fkn hard that it reversed time. People not dying and coming back from crazy things is  canon.