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[DPR]

Lol Turin

[keyholder21]

@Turin Turambar - Out of everything I have said this game, you are basing your thinking on one coincidental timing?  Burn me, I've written palaces of posts, but that's enough to override your feeling of me that's been town ALL game???  I find this whiplash turnaround sus. 

 

Explain how Hally's flip relates to me in your eyes?

 

@Zander? - No, according to DPR he (DPR) hasn't been linking us.  Although, imo, he has. I also think DPR putting Hally at L-1 when we have like 1.5 days to discuss is suspicious, even though, tbf, I also think she's wolfy. 

 

@seph - I want to know what put DPR firmly in your town camp.

 

I have doubts that a 3rd party exists in an 11 player game, personally 🤷‍♀️. 

 

[seph]

  On 4/7/2025 at 6:53 PM, keyholder21 said:

@Turin Turambar - Out of everything I have said this game, you are basing your thinking on one coincidental timing?  Burn me, I've written palaces of posts, but that's enough to override your feeling of me that's been town ALL game???  I find this whiplash turnaround sus. 

 

Explain how Hally's flip relates to me in your eyes?

 

@Zander? - No, according to DPR he (DPR) hasn't been linking us.  Although, imo, he has. I also think DPR putting Hally at L-1 when we have like 1.5 days to discuss is suspicious, even though, tbf, I also think she's wolfy. 

 

@seph - I want to know what put DPR firmly in your town camp.

 

I have doubts that a 3rd party exists in an 11 player game, personally 🤷‍♀️. 

 

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Can you please explain where you got the bold from exactly? 
I can most certainly share.

[keyholder21]

  On 4/4/2025 at 8:54 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

I have looked at everybody, yes.  My read on Darthe would be null without that one town core post, and my read on seph would actually be slight town if not for the "nodding along" post.  But I stand by my belief that sometimes it's just one little post slip that scum makes, especially solid scum.  And both of those are solid players.

 

For everybody else, I have them basically above the line currently.  At this point, I need to see some flips and look at votes and try to evaluate from there.

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@Verb, here's your post.  Sure, there are reads but it doesn't appear (along with your lack of activity) that you are trying to solve the game, imo.  It's like, going to pop in for a min so I look like I'm here, but not really do much.  I get that you pegged darthe (heh), but it could easily be a scumbro stating this???

 

You've got some flips now -- what do you think?

[keyholder21]

@Seph - combo of these two, although reading back through I see I misremembered, my b. You gave your reasoning for DPR and I def can't hate on you for basing it on emotion because that's what I did with Turin1.0.

  On 4/7/2025 at 1:27 AM, seph said:

I think hallia needs to be in the poe.

Gud

Verbal. Verbal said he would switch votes to Cass at end so we wouldn't go random. I disliked the end of his day and if he is Mafia I think I look at cassturin a little harder.

 

Cassturin.

 

You get 4.

I am unsure how to feel about verbal with darthes post last night, Do you have any thoughts on the matter?

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  On 4/4/2025 at 6:00 PM, seph said:

I mean Hallia told me how to summon her, but she might hammer you as well lmao.
Dpr is in my poe and I I think I would rather lynch there over you tbh, but the post with him getting upset seemed pretty genuine and I did get a frustrated townie vibe from it. Me building a wagon of someone I think has a chance to be a townie vs 3 people I think is wolves doesn't sound smart.

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[keyholder21]

@Hallia - Are you going to give any thoughts on the flips, being at L-1, anything???

[DPR]

  On 4/7/2025 at 6:53 PM, keyholder21 said:

@Turin Turambar - Out of everything I have said this game, you are basing your thinking on one coincidental timing?  Burn me, I've written palaces of posts, but that's enough to override your feeling of me that's been town ALL game???  I find this whiplash turnaround sus. 

 

Explain how Hally's flip relates to me in your eyes?

 

@Zander? - No, according to DPR he (DPR) hasn't been linking us.  Although, imo, he has. I also think DPR putting Hally at L-1 when we have like 1.5 days to discuss is suspicious, even though, tbf, I also think she's wolfy. 

 

@seph - I want to know what put DPR firmly in your town camp.

 

I have doubts that a 3rd party exists in an 11 player game, personally 🤷‍♀️. 

 

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I suggested earlier that we run Gud up to L1 as it’s a good way to get folks talking. Same logic applies to Hally. 
 

I also posted that we should wait to hammer as we have lots of time and need as much info as we can get. Personally, I want to hear from dice and Gud as well as more from Verb. 

[keyholder21]

@Zander? - quotes around Hally and her "sketchy read".

 

  On 4/4/2025 at 3:22 PM, Hallia said:

wait my vote is horrid but you JOINED ME??

 

LOLOK

 

ded

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  On 4/4/2025 at 3:31 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

Literally in a post like three up from your comment on this very page???

 

Yes, because yours looks like teammate distancing, imo and I have thought DPR sketchy for a long time.

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  On 4/4/2025 at 3:47 PM, Hallia said:

he was my first sketchy read also

 

So i have thought he was sketchy for a long time

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  On 4/4/2025 at 3:59 PM, keyholder21 said:

Was he? Where did you say that? Because he wasn't even mentioned in this post where you are discussing possible wolves.  And when I am looking through your posts courtesy of your profile, I don't see anything that mentions your feeling on him outside of your vote. You do question him at one point saying that you don't like it when people don't provide explanations, but as far as I can see that is the only hint at all and doesn't say much on its own.  And when you voted you didn't say you had been feeling he was sketchy to you for a long time, you said you voted him for his "horrible reason to vote" Turin.  

 

* brackets are my inclusion to make it clearer. 

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:00 PM, keyholder21 said:

That ^ was to @Hallia.  

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:04 PM, Hallia said:

maybe it was just in my head then lolme

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  On 4/4/2025 at 4:13 PM, keyholder21 said:

 

Can you see how this is concerning to me? You're voting for your top sketch read but you don't say that when you put the vote on????

 

WTF is even this discussion? 

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[Verbal32]

  On 4/7/2025 at 6:19 PM, DPR said:

I don’t love Verb’s logic for not sharing the message. 
 

I also think we can afford to spend some getting everyone’s opinion on Hally, so let’s not hammer too quickly. 

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Fine.  I'll note one little tidbit - the message asked me to not vote today.  And I'm going to do the opposite, and channel my inner Pac and hammer Hallia (after giving her a little time to respond).

 

 

 

  On 4/7/2025 at 6:57 PM, keyholder21 said:

(along with your lack of activity)

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Hmph.  If we had a post count on this thread, I don't think you'd be far enough ahead of me to make a statement like this.  

[Zander?]

  On 4/7/2025 at 6:38 PM, Hallia said:

I wasn't being snarky?

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Felt like it sadface.gif... but ok where you at with you reads currently?   Anything exciting to share?

[Verbal32]

[Zander?]

UNVOTE Hallia

[DPR]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:09 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Fine.  I'll note one little tidbit - the message asked me to not vote today.  And I'm going to do the opposite, and channel my inner Pac and hammer Hallia (after giving her a little time to respond).

 

 

 

 

Hmph.  If we had a post count on this thread, I don't think you'd be far enough ahead of me to make a statement like this.  

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What do you make of that? Why would Darthe ask you to. It vote? Super weird. 

[seph]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:03 PM, keyholder21 said:

@Seph - combo of these two, although reading back through I see I misremembered, my b. You gave your reasoning for DPR and I def can't hate on you for basing it on emotion because that's what I did with Turin1.0.

 

 

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Yup yup, I just wanted to make sure you weren't passing it off of something random before I responded with the post.

[Verbal32]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:11 PM, DPR said:

What do you make of that? Why would Darthe ask you to. It vote? Super weird. 

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The only thing I can think of is that maybe they planned on sussing me based on not voting?

[Verbal32]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:11 PM, Zander? said:

UNVOTE Hallia

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Aaaannnd that's what happens to Pac all the time when he gets the hammer ready, heh.

[Zander?]

We're not gonna take 3 days but jumping Judas dying priest simmer down lolololol 

[keyholder21]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:09 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Fine.  I'll note one little tidbit - the message asked me to not vote today.  And I'm going to do the opposite, and channel my inner Pac and hammer Hallia (after giving her a little time to respond).

 

 

 

 

Hmph.  If we had a post count on this thread, I don't think you'd be far enough ahead of me to make a statement like this.  

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Well not voting would definitely make you look sus.  Why would anyone follow that message though?  That's a weird thing to message.

 

re: post counts - I have a whole extra page on you according to the profile "see their activity" thing.  Plus LOTS of content in mine so :P. 

 

[Zander?]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:13 PM, Verbal32 said:

 

Aaaannnd that's what happens to Pac all the time when he gets the hammer ready, heh.

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Perhaps I control the hammer eh hehehe

[Zander?]

The fact noone hammered Hallia tells me likely she's a Wolf or both Wolves in her or Dice might just be a Wolf lol

[keyholder21]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:11 PM, DPR said:

What do you make of that? Why would Darthe ask you to. It vote? Super weird. 

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Hey, that's my line! 😆

[Turin Turambar]

  On 4/7/2025 at 6:53 PM, keyholder21 said:

@Turin Turambar - Out of everything I have said this game, you are basing your thinking on one coincidental timing?  Burn me, I've written palaces of posts, but that's enough to override your feeling of me that's been town ALL game???  I find this whiplash turnaround sus. 

 

Explain how Hally's flip relates to me in your eyes?

 

@Zander? - No, according to DPR he (DPR) hasn't been linking us.  Although, imo, he has. I also think DPR putting Hally at L-1 when we have like 1.5 days to discuss is suspicious, even though, tbf, I also think she's wolfy. 

 

@seph - I want to know what put DPR firmly in your town camp.

 

I have doubts that a 3rd party exists in an 11 player game, personally 🤷‍♀️. 

 

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Key, I think it stinks that I have moved you so far. There are three things that are leading me to think you are mafia. I'm only ready to go into 2 of them right now. The first is that thing with Darthe. It looks like he slipped and outted you. The other thing is also kinda an unlucky situation for you. It is how hard you have fought about the link with Hallia. I didn't think that you and Hallia should have been grouped together. I thought DPR was being shady. You fought it so hard. It kinda felt like you felt unjustly targeted because you've been playing an awesome game. Sort of a "the lady protesteth too much" situation. But this start of day something else happened. Your posting on your reads vs. My reads struck me a little off. There is one other thing but I'm not getting into that yet. Yet another situation where this town has been better lucky than good.

 

If I'm right and I really think I am, I must say you played a great game. Very unlucky in the unfortunate ( for you) things that happened. 

 

[Zander?]

Ok everyone tag me and give me your Top 1 WTL today and Top 1 100% wouldn't lunch today (can't be me or yourself lol)

[Zander?]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:17 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Key, I think it stinks that I have moved you so far. There are three things that are leading me to think you are mafia. I'm only ready to go into 2 of them right now. The first is that thing with Darthe. It looks like he slipped and outted you. The other thing is also kinda an unlucky situation for you. It is how hard you have fought about the link with Hallia. I didn't think that you and Hallia should have been grouped together. I thought DPR was being shady. You fought it so hard. It kinda felt like you felt unjustly targeted because you've been playing an awesome game. Sort of a "the lady protesteth too much" situation. But this start of day something else happened. Your posting on your reads vs. My reads struck me a little off. There is one other thing but I'm not getting into that yet. Yet another situation where this town has been better lucky than good.

 

If I'm right and I really think I am, I must say you played a great game. Very unlucky in the unfortunate ( for you) things that happened. 

 

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.show me this Darthe outting Key post(s) please

[Verbal32]

  On 4/7/2025 at 7:14 PM, keyholder21 said:

re: post counts - I have a whole extra page on you according to the profile "see their activity" thing.  Plus LOTS of content in mine so :P. 

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Would you like a cookie?  In case people have forgotten, I really don't care about post counts or perceived content within them.  I've seen people post little, be right, and help win the game.  And I've seen the exact opposite, too.