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WhiteVeils · July 22, 2022

There were two Origins clips, as well as confirmation that there will be more Origins episodes (those are the animated mini-episodes) starting in August.

Here was a trailer for one of the clips, which was on the origins of Malkier.

There was a great Behind the Scenes clip which had a TON of stuff in it I want to pick all apart here:

And they confirmed Season 3 has been greenlit and Rafe will be going to London to start work on the scripts in 2 weeks. Season 3 will primarily cover The Shadow Rising.

WhiteVeils · July 22, 2022

wotfan4472 · July 22, 2022

That Malkier origin trailer looks awesome!!!

Instant goose bumps!!!

WhiteVeils · July 22, 2022

Rafe also answered a ton of questions in this thread:

Skipp · July 22, 2022

59 minutes ago, WhiteVeils said:

Rafe also answered a ton of questions in this thread:

I love his Sass

Skipp · July 22, 2022

Confirmed change from episode 8. Blood and bloody ashes I wish Covid hadn't interfered.

DaddyFinn · July 22, 2022

1 hour ago, WhiteVeils said:

Rafe also answered a ton of questions in this thread:

psmith1990 · July 22, 2022

And a quick, untidy transcript of the Q&A on Twitter for those who don't want to dig through the Twitter thread:

ALDEIB BETTER NOT DIE rafejudkins I'M TELLING YOU NOW

Rafe: I dunno about Aldeib but Aldieb will be fine 🤓

Which books make it into season 2?

Rafe: Pieces of 1,2 and 3.

Blink twice if we see more than one Forsaken!

Rafe: 😌😌

How much has the making of process changed in between seasons especially with how the pandemic affected season 1?

Rafe: It's certainly affected us in ways both huge and small, but by the end of Season Two it had become so second nature that MULTIPLE TIMES I poured a coffee into my mask and was confused why it didn't go into my mouth

What's your favourite scene with Donal Finn, and why is it him blowing the horn?

Rafe: #LetDonalToot is now the rallying cry of a generation

How far into the books will this season take us, know the EF5 are much more split up than EotW

Rafe: We are trying to get a fair amount of what's done in Books 1-3 (large parts still being held for later) by the end of S2 so that S3 can be a much closer adaptation of TSR

In comparison to season one, how much queer rep is there going to be?
Rafe: It depends on how many great memes you churn out.

favourite type of gin, and also, can you drop a hint about something you're looking forward to us seeing in season 2?

Rafe: Your pic makes me excited about where Liandrin's character goes in S2. We are so so lucky to have the amazing katefleetwood in the show and you will love, hate, and love to hate her LiLi

describe S2 using only alcoholic beverages please

Rafe: Spiked Kaf

favorite Season 2 two person scene with only the character names and no more

Rafe: Egwene Renna

Do the Seanchan still use the ball gags on the Damane?

Rafe: I've never seen a ball gag on a damane

Can you tell us how much you will be expanding on the forsaken in this season?

Rafe: It's a big point of difference from the books in S2. We will spend more time with any Forsaken who's in the show, more how the later books treat the Forsaken than necessarily Books 2 or 3 did

When will Rand's luscious curly locks return?

Rafe: Ask joshastradwski1. He should be growing them now 🙂

What new character/actor are you most excited to introduce us to?

Rafe: There are so man - Aviendha, Elayne, others that have been both announced but not announced, and of course Bayle Domon

Can you please tell us what Xelia Mendes-Jones will play please

Rafe: Xelia is playing the role of knocking their scenes out of the f-cking park every time they stepped on set.

How many episodes will Season 2 be? If only 8 again, will they be longer?

Rafe: They are longer than first season, but yes, still only 8.

Maybe you can open with an explanation of why you had the entire seanchan ever victorious navy unleash everything they had on a poor little girl on the beach, or how you had the forces of Fal Dara hard charging the BACK OF THEIR OWN DEFENSIVE FORTIFICATION

Rafe: That girl had it coming. So did the entire coastline and all its cities.

Pretty sure I saw Uno in the behind the scenes - interested in how that is possible after last season...

Rafe: He's breathing. Watch close

Are you aware that as the second RJ writer for WoT some parts of the fandom call you R2J2?

Rafe: No. But this is my best news of the week

What is the journey like for Moiraine and Lan in season 2 with their bond still masked

Rafe: Another big departure point for us from the books is making much more story for Moiraine and Lan. We aren't sitting these two amazing actors on the bench for a season, so we take what's in Book 2 for them and expand it in a huge way. That's all I can say.

Will we finally see Steve?

Rafe: How does this only have one like. Most important question

Since most of the main characters split up geographically at the beginning to tGH, will the next seasons keep them on parallel timelines for a convergence at Falme? In which case, the Portal Stones left a time gap of 4 months for Rand's group; easier to do on a page or on film?

Rafe: Time gaps are very difficult moving to the medium of television with the stories intercutting, but we try to do as much as we can to avoid one hour cross continent dragon flights

Which new cast member gave you the best "Yep! THAT'S (insert character name)!" moment in season 2 filming?

Rafe: I think this moment will be in the first or second trailer of season 2. It lives rent free in my mind at all times

Why did you guys decide not to make the dagger instant death like the books? How did Loial survive being stabbed by *the* dagger?

Rafe: That's a story best told in a stedding

I have to ask. Gawyn (and I guess the lesser brother Galad) actually beat Mat in the warder training yard in the show right? There's no way they lose on screen is there?

Rafe: This is an iconic scene from the book and we are building to a believable version of it in the show. Hopefully. Ha.

Does Mat get to wander the Tower practice yard, and do we learn of Jearom?

Rafe: Get your Origins on!!!

Will we get "Do you like to dance, Perrin Aybara"?

Rafe: Yes.

which character had his plot changed the most compared to the books?

Rafe: Mat. But we try to bring the characters back to where they should be by the end of S2.

Did everything happen as planned this season or did you guys have to change anything (as in the last 2 eps of season 1)?

Rafe: There were unforeseen changes as we shot S2 immediately after wrap of 107 and 108. But that's making television. Anyone who tells you there weren't unforeseen changes on their show is lying.

Are the Wheel of Time Origins canon to the tv show or just a pretty (amazing) side piece where the stories of origins aren't the mythology used in the show?

Rafe: Canon

Any hints on Moiraine's journey in season 2?
Rafe: It's much expanded from her Book 2 story. But built out of the core of that and of a couple relationships that were not explored in the books

Will there be a premiere where WoT youtubers will be invited to ask questions? I really like that for season 1, it was quite unique!

Rafe: I love having that! So here's hoping

How cool was it actually seeing a Fade nailed to a door? Did you pick up a hammer and help mount the fella?
Rafe: I genuinely loved it ha

please tell us gawyn won't be likable please please please you can't do this to me

Rafe: I love every character I write. I think you have to find a way to.

Will weaves appear the same in the coming season(s)? Congrats on S3 btw!

Rafe: They're getting a bit of a revamp for S2. Threads and colors and bears oh my. But no bears.

What was the scene you dreamed of bringing alive the most and have you filmed it yet?
Rafe: That scene is in the final episode of the show

First off, G&T is divine. Second, I want to know if you get more chances to expand the dialog more to let us see the characters better?

Rafe: We are always try to. Lots of one on one scenes that didn't get shot or didn't make the cuts. But I'm always fighting for them, I think that's where the characters really live or die, and our actors can always deliver when it's just 2 people in a room taling

Will we see more than one of these cities in season 2? Cairhien, Tear, Falme

Rafe: Yes

Early S3 renewal?

Rafe: Yep!!! Thanks PrimeVideo!!

Hopper?

Rafe: THANK YOU. WHY IS NO ONE EVER GIVING HOPPER THE RESPECT HE DESERVES. OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: HOPPER IS IN S2

Are you sticking with the fun cold opens?

Rafe: Yep! It's our ode to the out of POV chapters in the books and we will always have them

The most pressing question of all, will the Seanchan have Texas accents?! Please sarahenakamura I have to know

Rafe: Yes and no

Does Rand get his Red and Gold outfit this season? I can't wait to see Josha officially in it 🥺

Rafe: 🤗

Is the Darkfriend Social gonna be in the show?

Rafe: Yep

Is Liandrin's friend a <ahem> North Harbor friend, a Darkfriend, or both?
Rafe: I wouldn't tell you even if you used a weave of compulsion

I have a cheat question about season 1. What was the biggest change in episode 8 that was brought by COVID restrictions compared to what you had originally planned?

Rafe: The thing I like the least was we originally had Egwene using the Wisdom skills she'd learned in the pilot from Nynaeve to help her after the channeling in Fal Dara. But last minute Covid changes on the day didn't allow for the same amount of touching so it got switched and I *melting face emoji*

Are we going to hear more about Moiraine's dog, Jenny? A few of us had some theories that there may be more to that story...
Rafe: Please make rammypark do an Origins episode about this

IS SHE STILLED OR SHIELDED?!

Rafe: Dinner time! Thanks everyone. Gonna try and carve out some more time to get online and chat between seasons this year. It's always fun interactng with #TwitterOfTime

Skipp · July 22, 2022

22 minutes ago, psmith1990 said:

And a quick, untidy transcript of the Q&A on Twitter for those who don't want to dig through the Twitter thread:

ALDEIB BETTER NOT DIE rafejudkins I'M TELLING YOU NOW

Rafe: I dunno about Aldeib but Aldieb will be fine 🤓

Which books make it into season 2?

Rafe: Pieces of 1,2 and 3.

Blink twice if we see more than one Forsaken!

Rafe: 😌😌

How much has the making of process changed in between seasons especially with how the pandemic affected season 1?

Rafe: It's certainly affected us in ways both huge and small, but by the end of Season Two it had become so second nature that MULTIPLE TIMES I poured a coffee into my mask and was confused why it didn't go into my mouth

What's your favourite scene with Donal Finn, and why is it him blowing the horn?

Rafe: #LetDonalToot is now the rallying cry of a generation

How far into the books will this season take us, know the EF5 are much more split up than EotW

Rafe: We are trying to get a fair amount of what's done in Books 1-3 (large parts still being held for later) by the end of S2 so that S3 can be a much closer adaptation of TSR

In comparison to season one, how much queer rep is there going to be?
Rafe: It depends on how many great memes you churn out.

favourite type of gin, and also, can you drop a hint about something you're looking forward to us seeing in season 2?

Rafe: Your pic makes me excited about where Liandrin's character goes in S2. We are so so lucky to have the amazing katefleetwood in the show and you will love, hate, and love to hate her LiLi

describe S2 using only alcoholic beverages please

Rafe: Spiked Kaf

favorite Season 2 two person scene with only the character names and no more

Rafe: Egwene Renna

Do the Seanchan still use the ball gags on the Damane?

Rafe: I've never seen a ball gag on a damane

Can you tell us how much you will be expanding on the forsaken in this season?

Rafe: It's a big point of difference from the books in S2. We will spend more time with any Forsaken who's in the show, more how the later books treat the Forsaken than necessarily Books 2 or 3 did

When will Rand's luscious curly locks return?

Rafe: Ask joshastradwski1. He should be growing them now 🙂

What new character/actor are you most excited to introduce us to?

Rafe: There are so man - Aviendha, Elayne, others that have been both announced but not announced, and of course Bayle Domon

Can you please tell us what Xelia Mendes-Jones will play please

Rafe: Xelia is playing the role of knocking their scenes out of the f-cking park every time they stepped on set.

How many episodes will Season 2 be? If only 8 again, will they be longer?

Rafe: They are longer than first season, but yes, still only 8.

Maybe you can open with an explanation of why you had the entire seanchan ever victorious navy unleash everything they had on a poor little girl on the beach, or how you had the forces of Fal Dara hard charging the BACK OF THEIR OWN DEFENSIVE FORTIFICATION

Rafe: That girl had it coming. So did the entire coastline and all its cities.

Pretty sure I saw Uno in the behind the scenes - interested in how that is possible after last season...

Rafe: He's breathing. Watch close

Are you aware that as the second RJ writer for WoT some parts of the fandom call you R2J2?

Rafe: No. But this is my best news of the week

What is the journey like for Moiraine and Lan in season 2 with their bond still masked

Rafe: Another big departure point for us from the books is making much more story for Moiraine and Lan. We aren't sitting these two amazing actors on the bench for a season, so we take what's in Book 2 for them and expand it in a huge way. That's all I can say.

Will we finally see Steve?

Rafe: How does this only have one like. Most important question

Since most of the main characters split up geographically at the beginning to tGH, will the next seasons keep them on parallel timelines for a convergence at Falme? In which case, the Portal Stones left a time gap of 4 months for Rand's group; easier to do on a page or on film?

Rafe: Time gaps are very difficult moving to the medium of television with the stories intercutting, but we try to do as much as we can to avoid one hour cross continent dragon flights

Which new cast member gave you the best "Yep! THAT'S (insert character name)!" moment in season 2 filming?

Rafe: I think this moment will be in the first or second trailer of season 2. It lives rent free in my mind at all times

Why did you guys decide not to make the dagger instant death like the books? How did Loial survive being stabbed by *the* dagger?

Rafe: That's a story best told in a stedding

I have to ask. Gawyn (and I guess the lesser brother Galad) actually beat Mat in the warder training yard in the show right? There's no way they lose on screen is there?

Rafe: This is an iconic scene from the book and we are building to a believable version of it in the show. Hopefully. Ha.

Does Mat get to wander the Tower practice yard, and do we learn of Jearom?

Rafe: Get your Origins on!!!

Will we get "Do you like to dance, Perrin Aybara"?

Rafe: Yes.

which character had his plot changed the most compared to the books?

Rafe: Mat. But we try to bring the characters back to where they should be by the end of S2.

Did everything happen as planned this season or did you guys have to change anything (as in the last 2 eps of season 1)?

Rafe: There were unforeseen changes as we shot S2 immediately after wrap of 107 and 108. But that's making television. Anyone who tells you there weren't unforeseen changes on their show is lying.

Are the Wheel of Time Origins canon to the tv show or just a pretty (amazing) side piece where the stories of origins aren't the mythology used in the show?

Rafe: Canon

Any hints on Moiraine's journey in season 2?
Rafe: It's much expanded from her Book 2 story. But built out of the core of that and of a couple relationships that were not explored in the books

Will there be a premiere where WoT youtubers will be invited to ask questions? I really like that for season 1, it was quite unique!

Rafe: I love having that! So here's hoping

How cool was it actually seeing a Fade nailed to a door? Did you pick up a hammer and help mount the fella?
Rafe: I genuinely loved it ha

please tell us gawyn won't be likable please please please you can't do this to me

Rafe: I love every character I write. I think you have to find a way to.

Will weaves appear the same in the coming season(s)? Congrats on S3 btw!

Rafe: They're getting a bit of a revamp for S2. Threads and colors and bears oh my. But no bears.

What was the scene you dreamed of bringing alive the most and have you filmed it yet?
Rafe: That scene is in the final episode of the show

First off, G&T is divine. Second, I want to know if you get more chances to expand the dialog more to let us see the characters better?

Rafe: We are always try to. Lots of one on one scenes that didn't get shot or didn't make the cuts. But I'm always fighting for them, I think that's where the characters really live or die, and our actors can always deliver when it's just 2 people in a room taling

Will we see more than one of these cities in season 2? Cairhien, Tear, Falme

Rafe: Yes

Early S3 renewal?

Rafe: Yep!!! Thanks PrimeVideo!!

Hopper?

Rafe: THANK YOU. WHY IS NO ONE EVER GIVING HOPPER THE RESPECT HE DESERVES. OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: HOPPER IS IN S2

Are you sticking with the fun cold opens?

Rafe: Yep! It's our ode to the out of POV chapters in the books and we will always have them

The most pressing question of all, will the Seanchan have Texas accents?! Please sarahenakamura I have to know

Rafe: Yes and no

Does Rand get his Red and Gold outfit this season? I can't wait to see Josha officially in it 🥺

Rafe: 🤗

Is the Darkfriend Social gonna be in the show?

Rafe: Yep

Is Liandrin's friend a <ahem> North Harbor friend, a Darkfriend, or both?
Rafe: I wouldn't tell you even if you used a weave of compulsion

I have a cheat question about season 1. What was the biggest change in episode 8 that was brought by COVID restrictions compared to what you had originally planned?

Rafe: The thing I like the least was we originally had Egwene using the Wisdom skills she'd learned in the pilot from Nynaeve to help her after the channeling in Fal Dara. But last minute Covid changes on the day didn't allow for the same amount of touching so it got switched and I *melting face emoji*

Are we going to hear more about Moiraine's dog, Jenny? A few of us had some theories that there may be more to that story...
Rafe: Please make rammypark do an Origins episode about this

IS SHE STILLED OR SHIELDED?!

Rafe: Dinner time! Thanks everyone. Gonna try and carve out some more time to get online and chat between seasons this year. It's always fun interactng with #TwitterOfTime

Thanks you so very much. There is ALOT to digest there!

DaddyFinn · July 22, 2022

I wonder if Rand cut his hair to hide his heritage. 🤔

Nik · July 22, 2022

3 hours ago, DaddyFinn said:

I wonder if Rand cut his hair to hide his heritage. 🤔

I'm thinking Rand in Cairhien trying to avoid being noticed since people there hate Aiel and might have a tendency to discriminate against all redheads in general

king of nowhere · July 22, 2022

finally, some teasers!

what's shown looks genuinely good. hopefully they got over their problems and managed to improve on S2.

I'm happy that we'll get the darkfriends social. And bayle domon - but will we see his aged grandmother?

Elder_Haman · July 22, 2022

I'm excited about WoT again!!

DojoToad · July 22, 2022

I saw a weapons training scene - 👍

The shooting looked less clean - 👍

The blond Aiel - Dolph Lundgren?

DaddyFinn · July 22, 2022

3 minutes ago, DojoToad said:

The blond Aiel - Dolph Lundgren?

Blonde Whitecloak! Check his armor and decorations

Edited July 22, 2022 by DaddyFinn

DojoToad · July 22, 2022

4 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:

Blonde Whitecloak! Check his armor and decorations

Doh!

All I saw was the 'veil' (not black) and assumed Aiel. I completely missed the single pauldron that White Cloaks consider armor. 🤣

DaddyFinn · July 22, 2022

9 minutes ago, DojoToad said:

All I saw was the 'veil' (not black) and assumed Aiel.

So did I on first look. I was confused why the veil was white

DojoToad · July 22, 2022

5 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:

So did I on first look. I was confused why the veil was white

There is a shot of 3 Aiel (I think) right at the beginning of the clip. The fabric for their costumes looks very similar in color to the White Cloak - another reason for confusion on a casual glance. White Cloaks in the Waste?

Edited July 22, 2022 by DojoToad

DaddyFinn · July 22, 2022

16 minutes ago, DojoToad said:

There is a shot of 3 Aiel (I think) right at the beginning of the clip. The fabric for their costumes looks very similar in color to the White Cloak - another reason for confusion on a casual glance. White Cloaks in the Waste?

Color is definitely different. Maybe they are in Falme or close to it?

PS. Isn't the middle Maiden Aviendha?

DojoToad · July 22, 2022

2 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:

Color is definitely different. Maybe they are in Falme or close to it?

PS. Isn't the middle Maiden Aviendha?

You're right. If a Maiden was standing right next to a WC, they would look different. My lazy inspection thought they were the same.

About time for a full trailer, yes?

Skipp · July 22, 2022

I am fairly certain that "veiled" whitecloak with an axe on his back is fighting Aveindha in a later scene. In the background of that scene there is a cage hanging from a rope.

I cannot find a still image but it is at the 50 second mark of the youtube video.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Skipp
added timestamp

DaddyFinn · July 22, 2022

24 minutes ago, Skipp said:

I am fairly certain that "veiled" whitecloak with an axe on his back is fighting Aveindha in a later scene. In the background of that scene there is a cage hanging from a rope.

I cannot find a still image but it is at the 50 second mark of the youtube video.

Skipp · July 22, 2022

8 minutes ago, DaddyFinn said:

That's the one. Those looks like Ayoola's dreds and I am certain that is the same Whitecloak. Maybe the cage in the background is a coincidence but I am thinking this is the replacement for the Gaul/Perrin meeting.

WhiteVeils · July 22, 2022

That looks like Perrin's axe, doesn't it?

Skipp · July 22, 2022

5 minutes ago, WhiteVeils said:

That looks like Perrin's axe, doesn't it?

I originally thought so but it is a double bladed axe rather than single edge plus spike.

But maybe said Whitecloak is Jaret Byar or Dain Bornhald.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Skipp

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