You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[darc-star]

2 minutes ago, Lenlo said:

At work so slow, but my understanding is the Tripped hinted Darthe as her N0 town peek. Accusing him seems idiotic. Im with Chris. Why would you ever accuse the only confirmed town player in the game?

 

i... dont think anybody was suggesting that?

 

remember, we vote for good people here

[Katiora]

Dang it it screwed up that quote when I tried to drag... the second quote was mine

[Katiora]

Just now, darc-star said:

 

i... dont think anybody was suggesting that?

 

remember, we vote for good people here

lots of this.... lol 

[Clovdyx]

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

At work so slow, but my understanding is the Tripped hinted Darthe as her N0 town peek. Accusing him seems idiotic. Im with Chris. Why would you ever accuse the only confirmed town player in the game?

 

I think kat was saying make him accuser.  

 

And ftr tripped didnt hint darthe.  I asked for her read on him and she literally said "hes my peek"

[darc-star]

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

@darc-star no, you're not being pocketed.  No, its not a bad thing you want to three read me.  That being said, if the best thing you have going for me is I took notes on potential partners in a game after Tripped (of all people) specifically asked me to... you probably shouldn't be townreading me.

 

that wasnt all of it, but that was something that made me feel better

 

and i do remember tripped asking you about pairs or something... can you explain/share whatever that is?

[darc-star]

2 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Dang it it screwed up that quote when I tried to drag... the second quote was mine

 

yea, i got it

 

was it you that explained that earlier?

if so, ignore this, but, why no?

[Lenlo]

3 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Who are you talking to?? 

I was responding to Chris's. Thought he was responding to someone wanting to lynch Darthe. On phone, so reading comprehension is hard ? 

 

 

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

 

I think kat was saying make him accuser.  

 

And ftr tripped didnt hint darthe.  I asked for her read on him and she literally said "hes my peek"

I had that in my notes as seer cover, which seeing as she was the seer... yeah, makes sense.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Darc (1) - Clov

Cass (1) - AJ

 

Not Voting: Darc, Dice, Lenlo, Nyn, Seph, Cass, Darthe, Kat, Penguins

 

[Clovdyx]

5 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

that wasnt all of it, but that was something that made me feel better

 

and i do remember tripped asking you about pairs or something... can you explain/share whatever that is?

 

It's literally what I posted... a list of people that have teammate equity and a list of people that DON'T  make sense as teammates.  It's basically a way of taking notes, especially early, so that you can rule out players once you start getting flips.

 

If you look at her QTs from town games in PerC, you'll see shes done it a lot.  She and I have discussed it in the past, and it's not something I typically do but see the value in, so I was happy to oblige. 

[Clovdyx]

3 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

It's literally what I posted... a list of people that have teammate equity and a list of people that DON'T  make sense as teammates.  It's basically a way of taking notes, especially early, so that you can rule out players once you start getting flips.

 

If you look at her QTs from town games in PerC, you'll see shes done it a lot.  She and I have discussed it in the past, and it's not something I typically do but see the value in, so I was happy to oblige. 

 

From Owner's game I subbed into:

 

Belzy/Sanari
Kaboomz/Belzy?
kaboomz/sanari
sanari/kommandant
Belzy/Gnome
FF/Kaboomz
FF/Darc
FF/sanari
FF/Gnome
Kaboomz/Darc
sanari/Darc
Belzy/Vivacious?
SC/Kommandant?
SC/Vivacious??
FF/Vivacious??
SC/FF


Possible teams:
Kaboomz/Gnome
Fable(Chris)/Darc (this feels slightly less likely)???
Belzy/kommandant?
Darc/Gnome??
Belzy/SC??
Darc/SC???

Dead Pairs:
Grim/Sanari
Grim/Belzy
Kito/kommandant
FF/Kito
Kito/Darc
Kito/sanari
Kaboomz/Kito

[Nynaeve]

1 hour ago, Andrej said:

 

Basically the opposite of everything you mention here. I would’ve felt a lot better about what you said had you led with your take on Hallia first.

 

I said what I thought. As usual.

[Nynaeve]

48 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Somebody had to say it.

 

Idk what sorta magic he’s using but this is back-to-back games he’s been ~gone and the N0 villa peek.

 

Yeah sorry about that. I blame Zander. Pretty much always.

[Nynaeve]

56 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

I’d like more thoughts on the roster as a whole but I think her posts on the current on-goings are ~fine in a nutshell.

 

Fine how?

[Clovdyx]

1 hour ago, Katiora said:

Good gracious... my brain feels like it's melting. Well good job ya'll getting a wolf D1... honestly first time I've seen that in a while. i had full intentions yesterday of getting on and voting, and honestly it would have probably been a no. I got on sometime saturday and briefly read the case and rebuttal and had full intentions yesterday of actually getting on my laptop ( I was on call for work and so had a laptop and mifi to use) and ended up having my newphews and neice all day because of a family emergency and never had time to get on. I do apologize

 

 

 

Ended up my vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. Honestly I think a vote for Clov today wouldn't be too bad. I think he was suspicious enough of Hallia D1 to feel decent about. We could also do Darthe as I believe that's who it was said that Trip spewed as her N0 peek. That way we would KNOW that we had a town Accuser. I want to think that Chris is town and wouldn't have bussed THIS early in the game but I always want him to be town so I could be soooo wrong. 

 

I really want to go back and look at Hallia's interactions this game and see if I pick something up. Hopefully work will allow for this lol So hopefully I'll be back with more thoughts very soon.

 

The more I read this, the less I'm convinced I believe you. ?

 

[seph]

12 hours ago, Andrej said:

 

What is your reason for Nyn/Kat?

Nyn actually I feel slightly better about her postings since I last posted. I was just waiting for her to dig in a bit. The most important thing is her tone seems good. I have only played with her once a long time ago as scum but she was busy then as well and remember some posts just seemed akward/ looked like she had a hard time coming back into the thread after a absence. I’m not seeing it here at all tbh.

 

kat I fed is playing this indecisive thing a bit to much. Yes she is always like that but i fee like if pressured she could give something concrete but everything seems to have some sort of uncertainty and I didn’t read it all as genuine. I need to re read as I have just been stressed out today beyond all belief but I think I’m keeping her near my bottom.

9 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

 

Lenlo's was pretty straight forward.  Mostly I was trying to get him talking.  Not going to lie...I feel like I've been doing a lot of the leg work this game, and that's fine... but the more the merrier, ya know?

 

I don't think AJ's was all that clear.  I mean, it was clear what he was saying, but I fundamentally disagreed on principle and wanted him to explain his thought process.  "If the person you were semi-pushing flips mafia, you look bad" doesn't make a ton of sense on the surface level, especially when the person saying it would then be DEFENDING mafia... especially without particularly firm reason.

I have had a problem with aj since d1 tbh. I think his early posts are fine when he posted about the game and asked a few questions but ever since the lenlo thing I feel like his posts have lost something... it’s hard to explain but I don’t think the hallia interaction upon re read is helping my judgement here.

 

ever since the lenlo thing I think that has been a large focus of his game, most of his other reads have been thoughts of others he will share or just ditto. And it seems he always comes back and focuses on lenlo. 

 

I had issue with his nyn comment as well as it was a form of favoritism, and a bit of hollow defense as clov stated.  

evem today I get some of his posts felt agenda ee and were more of in the direction of pointing a finger at someone, without much follow up.

the post about how me asking for dark for her reads somehow makes me look bad? Ok lol I would love to see how he spins that.

 

I wanted to clarify where darks Head was out. She got irritated with me and I was just trying to show her that her reads did not get posted and she obliged and gave me something. 

 

I was was trying to figure out if her reaction was genuine and honestly I wanted to see more from her towards the rest of the game and I think she stepped up today and I feel much much better since she came into the thread after the flip.

9 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

Yeah, but by that same thought process, why would a townie not just vote yes?  Beyond information strategy.   Surely everyone HAD to know we were never going into d2 with a no lynch. 

This. I don’t understand this when aj apparently spent a lot of time to post his pro town message at the start of the game talking mechanics how he votes for the most -ev option baring a town cop claim by the defendant.

4 hours ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

I don't get why Darc is so low on your list.

 

Also, did you get back to me from your post about asking who you thought the cop was and why?

I did post it earlier I thought? It was more of a personal silly reason. I have actually never had to deer hunt and am not very good at it ><

48 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

I’d like more thoughts on the roster as a whole but I think her posts on the current on-goings are ~fine in a nutshell.

See I know this is a simple post made by either alignment but I like it... and I really need to read through aj . If cass iso works by going to their page for large posters I will try this later

[Katiora]

49 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

yea, i got it

 

was it you that explained that earlier?

if so, ignore this, but, why no?

I don't think I explained today. I did explain towards the end of D1. Hallia is someone I've played with a lot and up to that time I didn't see anything that made ME think she was scum and she is someone I feel I get better at reading as the game progresses. She normally makes good reads and it becomes a thing where if I'm having trouble reading her after D2 I feel like she's probably scum. And with it being D1 I am generally unsure of any votes and not being able to have competing trains is throwing me off and makes me nervous to vote yes on anyone at the present. It's not abnormal for me to not vote at all D1 mostly because I just don't know who to vote lol  

[Katiora]

21 minutes ago, Nynaeve said:

 

Yeah sorry about that. I blame Zander. Pretty much always.

Blaming Zander is always a good look

 

 

20 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

The more I read this, the less I'm convinced I believe you. ?

 

 

 

[Clovdyx]

7 hours ago, darc-star said:

 

what are your thoughts on kat aside from this?

 

 

Updated Reads with Chris! (...I'm Chris)

 

Q: What do you think about Kat?

A: I think I might have fakepeeked a wolf.

[Katiora]

Just now, Clovdyx said:

 

Updated Reads with Chris! (...I'm Chris)

 

Q: What do you think about Kat?

A: I think I might have fakepeeked a wolf.

*Sighs* I'm not a wolf. Quit tinfoiling me. That's reserved for me to do. At no time does wolf me say I don't want to lynch Hallia. Wolf me ignores wolf partners at much as possible and with her not being here a whole lot mentioning her would NOT have happened especially not to say I didn't want to lynch her.

 

[Clovdyx]

3 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Blaming Zander is always a good look

 

 

 

 

 

I want you to be town!  I always want you to be town.  I just don't know if you are yet

[Katiora]

Just now, Clovdyx said:

 

I want you to be town!  I always want you to be town.  I just don't know if you are yet

What can I do to prove I'm town??? I mean I could copy and past my email from Cory, but that would get me ModKilled so it would kinda defeat the purpose.

[Nynaeve]

At this point I'm thinking of voting either Clov or Cass.

 

I know Clov can be a weasal but from the posts I've read in real time I feel comfartable with him so far. He feels extra proactive... ie he's not so much leading but on the verge of dragging us all and if he was doing it for show I feel like it's overkill. Being prominant would have sufficed.

[Nynaeve]

@Clovdyx what's darc's meta? Differences between scum/town game?

[Clovdyx]

2 minutes ago, Katiora said:

*Sighs* I'm not a wolf. Quit tinfoiling me. That's reserved for me to do. At no time does wolf me say I don't want to lynch Hallia. Wolf me ignores wolf partners at much as possible and with her not being here a whole lot mentioning her would NOT have happened especially not to say I didn't want to lynch her.

 

 

I'm not tinfoiling you.  I'm trying to figure you out, and I don't have to pretend you're my peek anymore.  I did/do think your constant paranoia is a good look but AJ was absolutely correct to say you would probably be savvy enough to do that as mafia.  I don't think anybody that knows you thinks you're just going to come in with hard, concrete reads as scum and plaster people to the wall.  It'd be the most glaring thing in the thread and everybody would call you out for it.

 

So that leaves me looking at tone and general contribution.  I think I ~sort of have a baseline for you - as much as I can without ever having played against you as scum - and don't think your tone is completely off, but there have been a couple of things that sounded forced/wrong.  "I do apologize" for missing the trial, for example.

 

General contribution... you're well below where you normally are.  I know you're like the Anti-Zander (and that's mostly a good thing!) but just looking at this game versus GoT, where's the substance?  Where are the actual opinions?

[Nynaeve]

I think dice is prolly town too but I'm not sure I trust him with the reins... (lol).

 

(Still love me some aussie xD)