You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[DontTrustThePenguins]

57 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

yea, i got there

did say that i was 5 pages behind

there were other things there that had already been answered too

 

but while we're here, everyone itt was talking about that whole argument, and what do people make of it, etc

i remember a few people who hadnt caught up on it were also trying to piece it together by the later posts, so i dunno as it would even have needed to be in the scum chat

but then id need to check the timing of hali actually appearing itt to see if that even makes sense

I'm here but I'm going to bed soon. 

 

Meh no worries. I prefer the comment as catch up too. It has it's disadvantages of asking things that have been answered but it has more benefits I think.

 

I just remembered reading the posts from Tripped's accusation thing. I get it's flawed, and it's kinda individual too (some people will talk about it, others wouldn't).

 

Did you have any opinions on my thoughts on Lenlo and Cass being more likely town or where you just wanting to know my thoughts on AJ?

[darc-star]

13 minutes ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

I'm here but I'm going to bed soon. 

 

Meh no worries. I prefer the comment as catch up too. It has it's disadvantages of asking things that have been answered but it has more benefits I think.

 

I just remembered reading the posts from Tripped's accusation thing. I get it's flawed, and it's kinda individual too (some people will talk about it, others wouldn't).

 

Did you have any opinions on my thoughts on Lenlo and Cass being more likely town or where you just wanting to know my thoughts on AJ?

 

didnt have much else to add on len and cass

understood where you were coming from on len, and agree that hes likely town

wasnt very sure where cass came from, but figured it was something similar that id forgotten, and chris questioned you on that part

as i still dont remember that interaction myself, i just kind of noted it, but still not sure how i feel about cass

[DontTrustThePenguins]

13 minutes ago, darc-star said:

 

didnt have much else to add on len and cass

understood where you were coming from on len, and agree that hes likely town

wasnt very sure where cass came from, but figured it was something similar that id forgotten, and chris questioned you on that part

as i still dont remember that interaction myself, i just kind of noted it, but still not sure how i feel about cass

Well my Cass thing pretty much comes from agreeing with tripped.

 

Anyway I'm going to sleep now.

[Andrej]

9 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

 

If it doesn't sit well with you, maybe you should stand.

 

That wasnt my approach because I don't have the time to keep current with the game and be able to generate much irt my own reads. I do what I can with the time I have. And I'm typing this from a bus mid the course I'm in. If anyone has an issue with my activity level it's an easy fix. Lynch me.

 

As for your post, I didnt trust anything. I read the case, it was a bloody good one and so I supported her lynch. This has nothing to do with knowing his meta as I wasnt trying to read trip. It was a given he was the accuser and and hallia was up for trial. Not knowing his meta as a player has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to make a valid case, so your point is moot.

 

The point he made that sold me the most was that she was willing to vote someone who was going to accuse another town read of hers, as if she wasn't even aware of it. And if she wasn't aware that meant that her reads were most likely bogus. Hallia is not stupid. So my take was most likely scum than loltownhalli.

 

Added to that was her defense which I found rather flat. And then in the rebuttal she didnt even bother to respond to trip's case. Or give out her own final reads.

 

It all spelled out duh. 

 

 

 

Why did you vote no?

 

Basically the opposite of everything you mention here. I would’ve felt a lot better about what you said had you led with your take on Hallia first.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Darc (1) - Clov

 

Not Voting: Darc, Dice, Lenlo, Nyn, Seph, AJ, Cass, Darthe, Kat, Penguins

[Andrej]

8 hours ago, Clovdyx said:

If anybody wants to weigh in on Lenlo/AJ, I'd love to hear it.  I don't see a world where they're ever mafia together; I see no reason they can't both be town.  And tbh the more I think about it, the more I'm warming up to the idea that AJ could be mafia.

 

Lenlo's push didn't look bad at me, and I've said it before - I thought it was really damn townie of him to just put it out there and try to make something happen.  He seemed aware that he MIGHT be wrong and was willing to deal with that in exchange for having some progress.  I'm not going to wifom myself on whether Mafia!Lenlo gets stuck in an AJ tunnel, but I don't hate what he's said about it at all.

 

AJ felt like he was stretching with the associative read a bit.  I don't expect Town!AJ to say "Lenlo looks good and I look bad if she's mafia", but I don't know that I'd default to "the person that wanted me to consider lynching mafia is probably her teammate."  Beyond that, that 'no' vote sticks out to me.  I'll re-read AJ's D1 to see if it fits with what he said.  I'm not ready to condemn him for that, but I'd also be lying if I said it didn't stick out like a sore thumb.  Darc's point about it being more townie than abstaining probably has ~some merit, but... meh...

 

it’s fine if you don’t agree but #BTY and I think you’re not looking beyond the surface. Lenlo never actually tried to say we should lynch Nyn - he said he had her at null -

so the entire point was just to highlight that I said I was willing to wait and see. So subsurface stuff this looks preemptive to me, whether it’s ammo for him to say I’m white knighting, linking me to a wolf bro, etc.

 

Beyond that interaction where would you rank Lenlo currently?

[Katiora]

Good gracious... my brain feels like it's melting. Well good job ya'll getting a wolf D1... honestly first time I've seen that in a while. i had full intentions yesterday of getting on and voting, and honestly it would have probably been a no. I got on sometime saturday and briefly read the case and rebuttal and had full intentions yesterday of actually getting on my laptop ( I was on call for work and so had a laptop and mifi to use) and ended up having my newphews and neice all day because of a family emergency and never had time to get on. I do apologize

 

 

 

Ended up my vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. Honestly I think a vote for Clov today wouldn't be too bad. I think he was suspicious enough of Hallia D1 to feel decent about. We could also do Darthe as I believe that's who it was said that Trip spewed as her N0 peek. That way we would KNOW that we had a town Accuser. I want to think that Chris is town and wouldn't have bussed THIS early in the game but I always want him to be town so I could be soooo wrong. 

 

I really want to go back and look at Hallia's interactions this game and see if I pick something up. Hopefully work will allow for this lol So hopefully I'll be back with more thoughts very soon.

[Andrej]

4 hours ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

Considering the cop's peek was always a V read and she had no more information on me than anyone else in Town, you using the fact that she was looking at me (for basically being null) has nothing to do with the fact that she was the cop. It's kinda lol how you're trying that. 

 

And obviously I did enough to convince her not to put me to trial. Again, I don't get why you're so angry.

 

How did you get to that conclusion? Lol. I am referring to Tripped as the dead cop because shes the dead cop. I do think the fact that she was wary of you is important (you keep saying it was a null read but I disagree and don’t remember her expressly saying that), but mostly I was bringing up who was talking about you D1 to highlight how you’re exaggerating.

 

Youre making up this bit about me being angry. That’s my take on how EOD went down and I wouldn’t be surprised post game if it’s true.

[Andrej]

4 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

@Andrej    thoughts on nyn now?

 

I’d like more thoughts on the roster as a whole but I think her posts on the current on-goings are ~fine in a nutshell.

[Clovdyx]

I've only read the newest page, but until further notice, I will fight against a darthe nomination with everything I have.  Yes, Darthe is town.  Yes, he can be a strong player.  But does he even know what's going on? Is he going to be around to accuse?

 

If he shows up and is caught up enough to make an informed decision, I have no problem making him accuser.

[Andrej]

2 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

I've only read the newest page, but until further notice, I will fight against a darthe nomination with everything I have.  Yes, Darthe is town.  Yes, he can be a strong player.  But does he even know what's going on? Is he going to be around to accuse?

 

If he shows up and is caught up enough to make an informed decision, I have no problem making him accuser.

 

Somebody had to say it.

 

Idk what sorta magic he’s using but this is back-to-back games he’s been ~gone and the N0 villa peek.

[Clovdyx]

4 hours ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

You were kinda pushing for me for "avoiding the thread" lets be honest

 

You are not Hallia.

[Clovdyx]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

Somebody had to say it.

 

Idk what sorta magic he’s using but this is back-to-back games he’s been ~gone and the N0 villa peek.

 

I've pretty much decided this is going to be my one town game a year where I actually care enough to put the team on my back if I need to.

[Andrej]

Vote Cass

[Katiora]

 

5 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

I've only read the newest page, but until further notice, I will fight against a darthe nomination with everything I have.  Yes, Darthe is town.  Yes, he can be a strong player.  But does he even know what's going on? Is he going to be around to accuse?

 

If he shows up and is caught up enough to make an informed decision, I have no problem making him accuser.

Very valid point. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

Somebody had to say it.

 

Idk what sorta magic he’s using but this is back-to-back games he’s been ~gone and the N0 villa peek.

100% agree... I don't know that he's not bribing the people in charge...... *eyes Cory suspiciously* 

 

 

AJ what are your thoughts on Clov? 

[Andrej]

Just now, Clovdyx said:

I've pretty much decided this is going to be my one town game a year where I actually care enough to put the team on my back if I need to.

 

It would go a lot better if you’d stop being stubborn.

[Clovdyx]

4 hours ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

I know Clov has no problem with bussing, he's bragged about doing it.

 

However, he's also a player that I think he's confident enough to at least leave it (rather than going straight into buss mode).

 

Was he pushing Hallia should be accused?

 

I have no problem with bussing a teammate that needs to be bussed.  I have a huge problem bussing unnecessarily.  Theres a reason my teams sweep like 50% of the time.

 

Are you mixing me up with Fable?  Because I am quite certain I've never bragged about it... I usually end up apologizing, and I'm pretty sure the only teammate I've bussed since yiuve known me - in any game, on any site - was Desthro in true love.

[Clovdyx]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

It would go a lot better if you’d stop being stubborn.

 

???

 

I feel I'm having a pretty good game individually, and I think I've done quite a bit to help the team. 

[Andrej]

5 minutes ago, Katiora said:

AJ what are your thoughts on Clov? 

 

I think he’s a big reason why Hallia was in the discussion yesterday when she otherwise wouldn’t have been.

[Lenlo]

At work so slow, but my understanding is the Tripped hinted Darthe as her N0 town peek. Accusing him seems idiotic. Im with Chris. Why would you ever accuse the only confirmed town player in the game?

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

???

 

I feel I'm having a pretty good game individually, and I think I've done quite a bit to help the team. 

 

I’m being cheeky just cause you keep shooting me down.

[Katiora]

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

At work so slow, but my understanding is the Tripped hinted Darthe as her N0 town peek. Accusing him seems idiotic. Im with Chris. Why would you ever accuse the only confirmed town player in the game?

Who are you talking to?? 

[darc-star]

25 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Good gracious... my brain feels like it's melting. Well good job ya'll getting a wolf D1... honestly first time I've seen that in a while. i had full intentions yesterday of getting on and voting, and honestly it would have probably been a no. I got on sometime saturday and briefly read the case and rebuttal and had full intentions yesterday of actually getting on my laptop ( I was on call for work and so had a laptop and mifi to use) and ended up having my newphews and neice all day because of a family emergency and never had time to get on. I do apologize

 

 

 

Ended up my vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. Honestly I think a vote for Clov today wouldn't be too bad. I think he was suspicious enough of Hallia D1 to feel decent about. We could also do Darthe as I believe that's who it was said that Trip spewed as her N0 peek. That way we would KNOW that we had a town Accuser. I want to think that Chris is town and wouldn't have bussed THIS early in the game but I always want him to be town so I could be soooo wrong. 

 

I really want to go back and look at Hallia's interactions this game and see if I pick something up. Hopefully work will allow for this lol So hopefully I'll be back with more thoughts very soon.

 

id be happy with chris atm

i know he can make a good argument, and with one good push already, i think he can be trusted

could be wrong, but i dont see him calling out his teammate near eod1

 

and you cant really say that you trust darthe to be able to create an informed argument from what hes... "provided" so far?

 

how were you going to vote, btw?

 

13 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

I've only read the newest page, but until further notice, I will fight against a darthe nomination with everything I have.  Yes, Darthe is town.  Yes, he can be a strong player.  But does he even know what's going on? Is he going to be around to accuse?

 

If he shows up and is caught up enough to make an informed decision, I have no problem making him accuser.

 

what chris said

[Katiora]

 

Just now, darc-star said:

how were you going to vote, btw?

 

Just now, darc-star said:

honestly it would have probably been a no

[Clovdyx]

@darc-star no, you're not being pocketed.  No, its not a bad thing you want to three read me.  That being said, if the best thing you have going for me is I took notes on potential partners in a game after Tripped (of all people) specifically asked me to... you probably shouldn't be townreading me.