Safari mafia [basic] - game thread

[Sooh]

 

 

Morning breaks. The animals rose a little later this morning. Their unfortunate run in with death the day before had made them less certain that they would somehow survive these awful predators that now perused their lands. The sun was already high in the sky before the animals could bear to see which one of their friends, if any, hadn't made it through the night.

 

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In between the tall grasses they found someone. It was Shad.

 

He was a zebra.


His pelt was destined to be a beautiful rug.

 

Day 3 ends in:

 

[dicetosser1]

vote arie

 

 

in a way im glad shad is dead. i dont have to tinfoil now

[Darthe]

  On 2/11/2018 at 10:35 PM, Shad_ said:

 

I don't know that I would say that.  /shrug

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Yeah, it's more fun to win and all but I value one that holds my attention.

[dicetosser1]

where do you think the scum lie Darthe?

[Darthe]

I feel pretty confident about BG, but the third is gonna be difficult.  

 

Nothing much has separated most players.  I think you're probably my top town read just on the "didn't you do that as a wolf" thing.

[Darthe]

If everyone could please provide me with the reason your top townie became your top townie, and the specific moment you realized it, that would be incredibly helpful.

[dicetosser1]

remebering ive not read about 20 pages of the game id say marsh or Darth as my top.

 

Marsh is a gut read off one of his responses  

 

Darthes is actually a tone read. theres a mix of "normal" darthe and phsycologist" darthe there.

[Darthe]

If Arie is a wolf this game would make a lot of sense to me relative to where I am now

[Arie]

VOTE BG.

 

I am Town, but if killing makes you feel better then I'm kinda done defending myself. I'll never play a perfectly innocent game, and it's just my style. :D (Blame TV.Net.)

 

However, over all, i feel that I want to knock BG out. I have a very strong feeling towards him being wolf and I trust that instinct.

[Darthe]

Why tho.

[dicetosser1]

  On 2/7/2018 at 9:13 PM, Andrej said:

 

What does the length of my vote have to do with anything? I revisited it last night and this morning and at the time was mulling over other options as well.

 

And no, you didn’t mention me until I was voted so the timing is questionable at best. I also have a fair amount of experience with you and know that you can be rather good early on in the game but tend to fade later on.

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This probably bodes well for Niniel

[dicetosser1]

  On 2/7/2018 at 9:22 PM, Andrej said:

I think BG might be good to keep around a bit now that he’s starting to dig in. Still wanna know where the mix up came from but he at least is bringing a fresh perspective.

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  On 2/7/2018 at 9:25 PM, Andrej said:

I wanted to look at Arie again since she wound up on me as well, and I think the biggest difference in feeling is that she seems to genuinely trying to puzzle out Cory versus where Nini is sheeping and also attempting to provide some sort of weak justification 

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both bg and arie get the scum thumb of approval directly after each other

[Kaylee]

  On 2/11/2018 at 8:14 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

 

Arie REALLY didnt like AJ getting voted

 

 

 

here she says im locked in on lenlo wont be back for a long while

 

 

changers vote  no real reason

 

 

oh and a long while was 11 minutes.

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Huh didn't noticed that before. 

 

  On 2/11/2018 at 8:21 PM, Shad_ said:

 

Good catch; Cory didn't actually say he was fine with votes on Lenlo until after she switched, so I got that part backwards.

 

I suppose that weakens my town case on her slightly in so far as she might have felt less comfortable sitting on her vote.

 

Unless Cory said it more than once but lol finding posts in this game

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Makes me feel less sure on her. 

 

Reads list:

 

Town

Shad_, Niniel

Dice - Based off of interactions with AJ and his recent posts I'm calling him town. Tone wise for recent posts. If he was anything but sketchy of more after last game I wouldn't trust him. 

 

Meh (Call this half town half scum)

Marsh - Honestly still unsure of. Though he's present and giving thoughts I just feel, idk, I guess gut doesn't trust. I feel like there's something I'm missing here. 

Arie - I've liked some of her posts and the overall feel i get is town. It's just not as strong. What Shad and Dice pointed out about her vote and timing doesn't look good. 

 

Bottom/ most likely scum

Darthe

BG - plus what Shad said about seeming to make stuff up. Just not a good look.

 

I'm going to bed. Got a migraine and having a hard time focusing. If you need me to explain better please ask and I'll do what i can.

[Darthe]

Kaylee your list is so. Immalleable.  It's a real issue for me this game.  I made it to the bottom for nothing and it's not changed.  People made it to the middle or top for very little and 30 pages later they've not moved.

 

U wolfin?

[Darthe]

Also a huge excess of lists compared to the Amount of things that inform on you developing those lists.

[dicetosser1]

@Kaylee    why is darthe where he is on your list?

[bgrishinko]

Vote Arie 

 

I'm going back to my instincts from yesterday. I'll address some of what Shad asked before he died though later tonight or tomorrow morning depending on how much time the wife gives me tonight. 

 

Overall I still think her vote was opportunistic and against everything she'd said so far. By the time she voted it was clear Cory would probably lead the vote.

 

Concerning Shad's questions: Main thing I remember him asking though was why I didn't come after him for false claims. Originally I stated he seemed to be playing behind a false persona, Cory vouched for him. I also mentioned later I missed the open setup thing till it was pointed out later on my initial reads. So I figured following up on my AJ vibe was a better idea. Turned out I'd mixed up some of AJ and Cory's posts in my head. 

 

 

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

Arie (2)- Dice, bgrishinko, 

bgrishinko (1) - Arie, 

 

Not voting (4): Kaylee, Ironeyes, Darthe, Niniel, 

 

4 to hammer

 

 
 

[Niniel]

  On 2/11/2018 at 11:19 PM, dicetosser1 said:

vote arie

 

 

in a way im glad shad is dead. i dont have to tinfoil now

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  On 2/11/2018 at 11:54 PM, Darthe said:

I feel pretty confident about BG, but the third is gonna be difficult.  

 

Nothing much has separated most players.  I think you're probably my top town read just on the "didn't you do that as a wolf" thing.

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Do I remember this right? Dice pointed that you said Marsh was town in another game where you were mafia. And that makes you think he is town. Is that right? If so, I think it was Cory that pointed that out earlier. 

 

  On 2/12/2018 at 12:58 AM, Arie said:

VOTE BG.

 

I am Town, but if killing makes you feel better then I'm kinda done defending myself. I'll never play a perfectly innocent game, and it's just my style. :D (Blame TV.Net.)

 

However, over all, i feel that I want to knock BG out. I have a very strong feeling towards him being wolf and I trust that instinct.

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I obviously like your vote on BG but it would be great if you could have a reason that isn´t "a strong feeling". 

 

  On 2/12/2018 at 2:50 AM, Darthe said:

Kaylee your list is so. Immalleable.  It's a real issue for me this game.  I made it to the bottom for nothing and it's not changed.  People made it to the middle or top for very little and 30 pages later they've not moved.

 

U wolfin?

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For me it´s pretty much the same. I haven´t seen much that have changed my reads. 

[Niniel]

  On 2/6/2018 at 2:24 AM, Kaylee said:

 and if you put me as town for it you're more likely pocketing me. I don't trust people that clear me before I've felt office done anything to warrant it. 

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  On 2/6/2018 at 2:56 AM, Andrej said:

Just for the sake of clarity I don’t even really disagree that Kaylee would have that thought as a townie after the last game we all played.

 

i just don’t think it’s exclusively something she’d say as only Town either

 

maybe I’m rusty. Idk

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I´m skimming the game from the start and we´ll see how far I come before work. This is from page 2. I think this is another reason for me to think Kaylee is town. I don´t think AJ needs to comment on this if Kaylee is mafia with him. 

[Arie]

If i find time tomorrow I'll try and address what feels off about BG. ISO his posts makes it hard.

 

Just want to note, we're running out of favorable conditions for the village. We take one wrong vote today, wolf kills another and I -think- that's game. If you are hesitant about me, I charge you, don't vote for me. I'm not leading this game in the way that Darth, BG and Dice are and my best guess is that two of them are Wolves. Follow where they point will end this game.

 

bed for me, i have to be up too early.

[Niniel]

  On 2/6/2018 at 3:41 PM, Ironeyes said:

I'm answering this under the assumption that your question was intended to get my perspective on the game. If I were scum, I'd spend my night kills on the players I fear the most. AJ, Cory, Lenlo, and you come to mind. I wouldn't *try* to mislynch anyone in particular, since that's how I'd get caught. It's safer to just let the town figure out who to lynch and come up with a decent reason to join the train partway through. 

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Marsh on page 5. Seems strange to give away your mafia strategies as mafia but I will check for your voting and it´s reasons. 

[bgrishinko]

  On 2/12/2018 at 7:19 AM, Arie said:

If i find time tomorrow I'll try and address what feels off about BG. ISO his posts makes it hard.

 

Just want to note, we're running out of favorable conditions for the village. We take one wrong vote today, wolf kills another and I -think- that's game. If you are hesitant about me, I charge you, don't vote for me. I'm not leading this game in the way that Darth, BG and Dice are and my best guess is that two of them are Wolves. Follow where they point will end this game.

 

bed for me, i have to be up too early.

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Not sure how you are calculating... 7 today, mislynch 6, nk 5. I can understand getting panicky but you are overselling it I think. 

[Niniel]

  On 2/6/2018 at 3:41 PM, Ironeyes said:

 

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[Niniel]

Sorry for that, I just couldn´t get rid of an old quote and when I tried I wasn´t able to write. Meh.

 

 

I´ve read up to page 25, which means up to the lynch. I will have to continue tonight. Comments on the lynch.

 

About Arie: Cory voted AJ and then asked me to join him. I joined him because I didn´t think AJ has said much and because he hadn´t moved his starting vote on Lenlo although the eod was comming. Then Arie joined me 2 minutes later. Before that, she was voting Lenlo. Before that she was voting Amega. It seemed like she tried to get a majority lynch. She had reasons for Amega but said that she didn´t have much reasons for Lenlo, just joined the biggest wagon at the time. Then she joined me on AJ. She didn´t have to bus AJ since was already on the biggest wagon. She could simply have left her vote on Lenlo. I don´t think AJ would have time to coach her to bus him since she joined me just 2 minutes later. I don´t think a new player just bus without "orders" on her first game here. To me it´s easier to see this as a townie vote. It´s the simplest conclusion. I could be wrong but that is how I see it right now. 

 

AJ kept his vote on Lenlo for a long time and didn´t move it until he voted me for voting him. I guess that gives bonus points to Dice.

 

BG didn´t comment on AJ´s wagon at all. He had suspected AJ before but had realised that he had mixed him up with Cory and voted Cory instead. Still weird that he didn´t comment on AJ´s wagon.

 

Darthe and Marsh never voted. I´ll see if they gave any reasons for it later. It´s fun that Marsh said that as mafia he just joins the easiest lynch but here he didn´t vote at all.