The Mafia Parable: Basic Game OVER

[Adella]

I'm here, I'm caught up. LZM I'm sorry I fell asleep last night instead of getting on an actual computer, but I haven't forgotten my promise to give you evidence (even though I have forgotten what the evidence is for, that's just mom brain tho).

 

Honestly today I actually feel strongest about a Sooh Lynch, everything she has said has given me a bad feeling. She has reacted very strongly to stuff that imo wasn't anything to react like that against. I'm trusting to other people's experience with her a bit, but I definitely am getting the feeling that this is someone who doesn't particularly enjoy being mafia so she doesn't come off as wanting to play at all.

 

I however I do have some self preservation in me so I am not moving my vote and putting myself as the top Lynch this close to deadline.

 

Hallia is my 2nd choice for scum anyways, I don't agree with her points on Nyn, I don't like her lack of an explanation there either. That coupled with her following a lot of opinions in this game and having no depth to those opinions has me pretty convinced she is scum skating by.

[RandA lThor]

Switched to desktop on phone view which is wayyy better

 

 

 

 

 

I didnt feel one way or the other irt sooh's posts but there are these...pauses? I dunno she doesnt feel as present as I've come to see her as town. She seems somewhat d/c. I did want to give her some room to collect herself but eh. Dunno.

 

This is sort of what I was getting at. The best 'tell' I have on Sooh is more or less her...not excitement...but I don't know a better way to phrase it.

Essentially, as town, she gets stuck playing and tends to have a problem pulling herself away, even when she needs to. She doesn't actively AVOID the thread as mafia, but she's much more likely to leave it when she has reason to do so.

She said she was catching up a couple of times now that never went anywhere. I'm sure she really iz busy, but I would expect some sort of contribution beyond just being stuck catching up.

 

 

I've raised points about Rand and Verb on the outside. 

 

Sooh is blank for me. Marsh is blank for me. Doesn't mean anything - just the same lack of vibe described above.

 

SK came out of the gate strong, but has since evaporated. Don't remember if there was an announcement that there would be an absence - needs a reread, but that won't happen till after deadline.

 

 

Wes, what is your read on me at this point?

 

 

Pretty much the same as every other D1. I understand that you try to employ a disruptive style (hide-in-the-grass-to-beat-the-snake or whatever...) to shake up the game, and I'm fine with that. But that style also provides a lot of room to hide as scum, so it has to be noted. So I noted it.

  

My best for scum is Rand, as I've noted, and that's not exactly an airtight case. SK needs looking into. Sooh and Marsh could be coasting. 

 

The Hally - Nyn exchange might prove interesting, but I'd like to see more reads before I settle on that.

 

Everything else seems calm so far.

  

 

Btw, proof that I remembered Verbal's playstyle accurately, I was the first one to mention the beat the grass type of mentality he had.

 

 

 

sigh

 

 

 

Town or scum - leaning which way?

 

 

 

Do you even read bruh?

 

D1. Not enough to make a solid call.

 

 

My best for scum is Rand, as I've noted, and that's not exactly an airtight case. SK needs looking into. Sooh and Marsh could be coasting. 

 

The Hally - Nyn exchange might prove interesting, but I'd like to see more reads before I settle on that.

 

Everything else seems calm so far.

 

 

Well, you had said you had a top 3, so I was curious if I was on there.  It appears you're saying Rand/Sooh/Marsh for your top 3, correct?

  

 

I also asked for your top 3 besides me and Verbal and you never gave it. I read your gun to a head response, but that doesnt make sense at all. Why would you say you had a top 3 if you only had one lean (me)? Room for additional maneuvering? The ability to seem like you're open minded when you're not?

 

Rand

LZM

Nyn

Clov

Marsh

Ben

SK

DPR

Adella

Hallia

Sooh

 

That's where I'm at right now.  Orange is not scum, just a lean.  Green is not town, just a lean.  Back is just in the middle, maybe some small nudges one way or the other, but nothing to really note yet.

Were you the one that started doing these color lists? I forget who started them, but I loved it and its one of the few things that I definitely wanted to do this game. Speaking of

 

Verbal

LZM

Clov

Nyn

Marsh

Ben

SK

DPR

Hally

Adella

[RandA lThor]

Omg wait Im so happy that I pulled off the colors on mobile, actually remembered the color tags correctly first try :D

[RandA lThor]

Hally seems like the consensus vote right now that everyone's coming together on and idk how I feel about that

[Nynaeve]

Switched to desktop on phone view which is wayyy better

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didnt feel one way or the other irt sooh's posts but there are these...pauses? I dunno she doesnt feel as present as I've come to see her as town. She seems somewhat d/c. I did want to give her some room to collect herself but eh. Dunno.

 

This is sort of what I was getting at. The best 'tell' I have on Sooh is more or less her...not excitement...but I don't know a better way to phrase it.

Essentially, as town, she gets stuck playing and tends to have a problem pulling herself away, even when she needs to. She doesn't actively AVOID the thread as mafia, but she's much more likely to leave it when she has reason to do so.

She said she was catching up a couple of times now that never went anywhere. I'm sure she really iz busy, but I would expect some sort of contribution beyond just being stuck catching up.

 

I've raised points about Rand and Verb on the outside.

 

Sooh is blank for me. Marsh is blank for me. Doesn't mean anything - just the same lack of vibe described above.

 

SK came out of the gate strong, but has since evaporated. Don't remember if there was an announcement that there would be an absence - needs a reread, but that won't happen till after deadline.

 

Wes, what is your read on me at this point?

 

Pretty much the same as every other D1. I understand that you try to employ a disruptive style (hide-in-the-grass-to-beat-the-snake or whatever...) to shake up the game, and I'm fine with that. But that style also provides a lot of room to hide as scum, so it has to be noted. So I noted it.

My best for scum is Rand, as I've noted, and that's not exactly an airtight case. SK needs looking into. Sooh and Marsh could be coasting.

 

The Hally - Nyn exchange might prove interesting, but I'd like to see more reads before I settle on that.

 

Everything else seems calm so far.

 

Btw, proof that I remembered Verbal's playstyle accurately, I was the first one to mention the beat the grass type of mentality he had.

 

 

 

sigh

 

 

 

Town or scum - leaning which way?

 

 

Do you even read bruh?

 

D1. Not enough to make a solid call.

 

My best for scum is Rand, as I've noted, and that's not exactly an airtight case. SK needs looking into. Sooh and Marsh could be coasting.

 

The Hally - Nyn exchange might prove interesting, but I'd like to see more reads before I settle on that.

 

Everything else seems calm so far.

 

Well, you had said you had a top 3, so I was curious if I was on there. It appears you're saying Rand/Sooh/Marsh for your top 3, correct?

 

I also asked for your top 3 besides me and Verbal and you never gave it. I read your gun to a head response, but that doesnt make sense at all. Why would you say you had a top 3 if you only had one lean (me)? Room for additional maneuvering? The ability to seem like you're open minded when you're not?

 

Rand

LZM

Nyn

Clov

Marsh

Ben

SK

DPR

Adella

Hallia

Sooh

 

That's where I'm at right now. Orange is not scum, just a lean. Green is not town, just a lean. Back is just in the middle, maybe some small nudges one way or the other, but nothing to really note yet.

Were you the one that started doing these color lists? I forget who started them, but I loved it and its one of the few things that I definitely wanted to do this game. Speaking of

 

Verbal

LZM

Clov

Nyn

Marsh

Ben

SK

DPR

Hally

Adella

No sooh?

[Darthe]

 

That said, this is hybrid hammer so assuming that you don't have a majority vote on "no lynch" the highest train will die.

O wut this is huge, what happens if the lead for votes is tied? RNG? Multi-kill? No kill?

 

It's standard now, and rng

[Nynaeve]

Hally seems like the consensus vote right now that everyone's coming together on and idk how I feel about that

Aren't hallia's and adella's trains tied?

[RandA lThor]

 

Switched to desktop on phone view which is wayyy better

 

 

 

 

I didnt feel one way or the other irt sooh's posts but there are these...pauses? I dunno she doesnt feel as present as I've come to see her as town. She seems somewhat d/c. I did want to give her some room to collect herself but eh. Dunno.

This is sort of what I was getting at. The best 'tell' I have on Sooh is more or less her...not excitement...but I don't know a better way to phrase it.

Essentially, as town, she gets stuck playing and tends to have a problem pulling herself away, even when she needs to. She doesn't actively AVOID the thread as mafia, but she's much more likely to leave it when she has reason to do so.

She said she was catching up a couple of times now that never went anywhere. I'm sure she really iz busy, but I would expect some sort of contribution beyond just being stuck catching up.

I've raised points about Rand and Verb on the outside.

Sooh is blank for me. Marsh is blank for me. Doesn't mean anything - just the same lack of vibe described above.

SK came out of the gate strong, but has since evaporated. Don't remember if there was an announcement that there would be an absence - needs a reread, but that won't happen till after deadline.

Wes, what is your read on me at this point?

Pretty much the same as every other D1. I understand that you try to employ a disruptive style (hide-in-the-grass-to-beat-the-snake or whatever...) to shake up the game, and I'm fine with that. But that style also provides a lot of room to hide as scum, so it has to be noted. So I noted it.

My best for scum is Rand, as I've noted, and that's not exactly an airtight case. SK needs looking into. Sooh and Marsh could be coasting.

The Hally - Nyn exchange might prove interesting, but I'd like to see more reads before I settle on that.

Everything else seems calm so far.

Btw, proof that I remembered Verbal's playstyle accurately, I was the first one to mention the beat the grass type of mentality he had.

 

 

sigh

Town or scum - leaning which way?

Do you even read bruh?

D1. Not enough to make a solid call.

My best for scum is Rand, as I've noted, and that's not exactly an airtight case. SK needs looking into. Sooh and Marsh could be coasting.

The Hally - Nyn exchange might prove interesting, but I'd like to see more reads before I settle on that.

Everything else seems calm so far.

Well, you had said you had a top 3, so I was curious if I was on there. It appears you're saying Rand/Sooh/Marsh for your top 3, correct?

I also asked for your top 3 besides me and Verbal and you never gave it. I read your gun to a head response, but that doesnt make sense at all. Why would you say you had a top 3 if you only had one lean (me)? Room for additional maneuvering? The ability to seem like you're open minded when you're not?

RandLZMNyn

Clov

Marsh

Ben

SK

DPRAdellaHalliaSooh

That's where I'm at right now. Orange is not scum, just a lean. Green is not town, just a lean. Back is just in the middle, maybe some small nudges one way or the other, but nothing to really note yet.

Were you the one that started doing these color lists? I forget who started them, but I loved it and its one of the few things that I definitely wanted to do this game. Speaking ofVerbalLZMClovNyn

Marsh

Ben

SK

DPRHallyAdella

No sooh?

  

 

My bad, should be a null read

 

 

 

That said, this is hybrid hammer so assuming that you don't have a majority vote on "no lynch" the highest train will die.

O wut this is huge, what happens if the lead for votes is tied? RNG? Multi-kill? No kill?

It's standard now, and rng

  

 

RIP lol, and gotcha thanks

 

 

Hally seems like the consensus vote right now that everyone's coming together on and idk how I feel about that

Aren't hallia's and adella's trains tied?

Right, but a lot more people have Hally as their #2 (including myself, tbf) seems like a train that might get the old we have to lynch someone, and Im unsure if thats planned or not, because thats a standard mafia plan

[Ironeyes]

Morning. Catching up now. Not sure how long till the deadline but I think it's close

[RandA lThor]

Morning. Catching up now. Not sure how long till the deadline but I think it's close

 

Yeah its like in an hour

 

This is legitimately concerning, there's supposed to be a lot more activity here this close to the deadline and we should be pushing cases and arriving to more well thought out conclusions.  So far most reads seem like early Day 1 FoSes despite the early start.  Hally, Adella, as the leading vote getters can you guys please make cases on why you shouldn't be lynched?  Your own suspicions, etc?

[Nynaeve]

Morning. Catching up now. Not sure how long till the deadline but I think it's close

One hour and three minutes

[Nynaeve]

Rand i dont quite get your explenation to what i asked

[Ironeyes]

You're really mormon? Lol

Yeah, have been all my life. Served as a missionary and all. 

 

 

Morning. Catching up now. Not sure how long till the deadline but I think it's close

 

Yeah its like in an hour

 

This is legitimately concerning, there's supposed to be a lot more activity here this close to the deadline and we should be pushing cases and arriving to more well thought out conclusions.  So far most reads seem like early Day 1 FoSes despite the early start.  Hally, Adella, as the leading vote getters can you guys please make cases on why you shouldn't be lynched?  Your own suspicions, etc?

Dang, with that little time left I'd expect the thread to be growing faster than I can keep up. Seems like unless something changes drastically it'll be Hallia or Adella today, and I'm inclined to go with Hallia. Adella is more engaged in thread, and I've seen Hally check out as scum a number of times. So I'll [v]Hallia[/v]

[Ironeyes]

In class now but I'll keep up with the thread. It's Spanish class, so piece of cake. 

[DPR]

@Rand - Mynd was the "grass beater". You're trying to make too much of the "top 3" thing and you're oversellingvthe memory point. Just sayin'.

[LedZepMan]

Did you all miss where Hallia claimed vig?

[Nynaeve]

There are two competing trains, so it could be worse. im looking forward to see how the voting goes in the last hour. With that said it would be nice if more players were around and took part. Feels a little quiet for my taste.

[LedZepMan]

 

 

Honestly LZM, you're playing consistent with how you've played lately, so I think this tunnel on me is probably an indication that you're town..

I just want to point out that I don't think any of your tunnels have worked well for you lately, so please try to keep an open mind throughout this game. Something someone says can ping you one way or another, but we need to look at the big picture and players as a whole.

 

Personally, I'm much quicker to name someone town than I am scum, considering only 25% of the players are scum, it's my favorite part of the new playstyle.

 

However, if I had to choose, right now I would say scum is likely Sooh, because of her very strong reactions. Hallia, for the reasons others have pointed out, she hasn't posted any of her own thoughts but has been around quite a bit. And I'm thinking Rand for the third, but that honestly is a bit tainted by some OMGUS. It can't be that tainted though, cause LZM doesn't seem scummy for voting for me. I think it's how he is claiming Hallia has had more content than I have, even though she and I have talked about the same things and my thoughts are much more detailed and fleshed out, I have answered questions, and even repeated myself to some who seemed to ask questions that I have already explained, in the interest of being open and honest a town.

How am I tunneling here? It's D1 ten pages in. I literally caught up and voted you. If I had votd you 3 days running with plenty of evidence to the contrary, then tunnel would be right word.

I like how just...reasonable you are, as I'm catching up. I like your posts.

So, something I've been thinking about. With this setup, town can essentially win in one night if the vigs don't crossfire and all hit scum. While that is not likely, especially N1, I'd like to submit the POTENTIAL IDEA that maybe if a vig plans on taking a shot on any given night, they call it out as to not cross shots with another vig.

 

Just a thought, and not something I'm saying we need to do......but I'd like to discuss the potential pitfalls and merits.

Welp, I'll call mine, I know who I'm shooting

[Nynaeve]

Did you all miss where Hallia claimed vig?

If you're talking about her saying early game she knows who she's gonna shoot, that's hardly a claim.

[LedZepMan]

It's the bolded in case you all missed it

[Ironeyes]

Did you all miss where Hallia claimed vig?

Yeah, I did. 

 

There are two competing trains, so it could be worse. im looking forward to see how the voting goes in the last hour. With that said it would be nice if more players were around and took part. Feels a little quiet for my taste.

To be honest I'd prefer to be lynching between Rand and Sooh, since they're the two that have pinged me for real so far. But the two leading trains have been pretty null for me, so I'm, well, not unhappy with this EOD. 

[Nynaeve]

 

 

 

Honestly LZM, you're playing consistent with how you've played lately, so I think this tunnel on me is probably an indication that you're town..

I just want to point out that I don't think any of your tunnels have worked well for you lately, so please try to keep an open mind throughout this game. Something someone says can ping you one way or another, but we need to look at the big picture and players as a whole.

 

Personally, I'm much quicker to name someone town than I am scum, considering only 25% of the players are scum, it's my favorite part of the new playstyle.

 

However, if I had to choose, right now I would say scum is likely Sooh, because of her very strong reactions. Hallia, for the reasons others have pointed out, she hasn't posted any of her own thoughts but has been around quite a bit. And I'm thinking Rand for the third, but that honestly is a bit tainted by some OMGUS. It can't be that tainted though, cause LZM doesn't seem scummy for voting for me. I think it's how he is claiming Hallia has had more content than I have, even though she and I have talked about the same things and my thoughts are much more detailed and fleshed out, I have answered questions, and even repeated myself to some who seemed to ask questions that I have already explained, in the interest of being open and honest a town.

How am I tunneling here? It's D1 ten pages in. I literally caught up and voted you. If I had votd you 3 days running with plenty of evidence to the contrary, then tunnel would be right word.

I like how just...reasonable you are, as I'm catching up. I like your posts.

So, something I've been thinking about. With this setup, town can essentially win in one night if the vigs don't crossfire and all hit scum. While that is not likely, especially N1, I'd like to submit the POTENTIAL IDEA that maybe if a vig plans on taking a shot on any given night, they call it out as to not cross shots with another vig.

 

Just a thought, and not something I'm saying we need to do......but I'd like to discuss the potential pitfalls and merits.

Welp, I'll call mine, I know who I'm shooting

Well now that must mean she's a vig!!

[LedZepMan]

It's in direct response to talking about vig shots. If it walks like a duck......it's a damn duck

[Nynaeve]

It's in direct response to talking about vig shots. If it walks like a duck......it's a damn duck

I said pew pew pew like a trillion times. Must mean im a vig too!

[Nynaeve]

Ridiculous