[Basic C9++] Murder Mystery Mafia D5

[Cory Caboose]

Kaylee i think you'd like the matrix set-ups too, i'll link when I get home :)

[Darthe]

I am not wrong

You're actually incredibly wrong. The basis of a semi-open setup is that it is SEMI OPEN.

 

If you change that during a game then dont inform players of it until later (or even if you did inform them), its strictly misleading players. Theres no getting around that.

 

Your advice was wrong. Your assertion that the setup was town favored was not. The advice to change an ongoing game and impact player perception severely was 100% wrong. Theres no escaping that fact. Furthermore, you were rude to Sooh in the DT. You know me, we are friends. I'm not bashing you. Im being honest. Accept it or don't, thats your choice.

[Kaylee]

Especially added with the no block and shoot at the same night, which i always remove as well. Dumb rule imo.

I try to keep the role PMs as they are. Seems less confusing. But hey being different is what makes us different people. Nyn I wad glad to have you too bounce ideas off of.

[Darthe]

 

C9++ is a deliberately open set-up in which players are supposed to be able glean mechanical info based on flips & role knowledge

 

Basically: running a semi-open and then adjusting it is in essence bastard modding

 

I understand why kaylee did what she did and fault her for it 0, but it's something to keep in mind for the future

Again I'm sorry. I never meant 2 to be a bastard mod. I don't like doing that.

 

Will likely not use C9++ again.

 

I should've used a different set up. (I had originally randed 3 and picked one. But was trying to keep things fair).

You ran this game as well as it could be run. It was unfair and you tried to adjust it. I like that a whole lot, it shows courage and it is a sign of a great moderator.

 

I dont even mind the setup change so much as that it chaps my ass to see nyn being belligerent post game about it being a technically incorrect approach and being rude to others.

[Nynaeve]

I was being honest with my take and she was whinging and being repetative. *shrugs*

 

Also i didn't force kaylee to do anything and i even told her to get a second opinion. I still feel like a balanced setup trumps all and i dont really care if it's agreed with or not. That's my ideal when i run my games.

[Nynaeve]

 

Especially added with the no block and shoot at the same night, which i always remove as well. Dumb rule imo.

I try to keep the role PMs as they are. Seems less confusing. But hey being different is what makes us different people. Nyn I wad glad to have you too bounce ideas off of.

I appreciate that, ty

[Cory Caboose]

But the fact that it's semi-open is an inherent part of the balance

 

See the example above for a worse case scenario

 

Kaylee was 10000000% correct to jump in and announce tweaks were made d3 because it could have gone very badly if she hadn't

[Nynaeve]

I told her she should announce it, duh.

[Cory Caboose]

Darthe continuing to GOAT post-game

[Sooh]

I was being honest with my take and she was whinging and being repetative. *shrugs*

 

Also i didn't force kaylee to do anything and i even told her to get a second opinion. I still feel like a balanced setup trumps all and i dont really care if it's agreed with or not. That's my ideal when i run my games.

You voiced your opinion, I voiced mine.

[Kaylee]

 

 

Especially added with the no block and shoot at the same night, which i always remove as well. Dumb rule imo.

I try to keep the role PMs as they are. Seems less confusing. But hey being different is what makes us different people. Nyn I wad glad to have you too bounce ideas off of.

I appreciate that, ty

[monstrman]

But the fact that it's semi-open is an inherent part of the balance

See the example above for a worse case scenario

Kaylee was 10000000% correct to jump in and announce tweaks were made d3 because it could have gone very badly if she hadn't

^^

 

i would have preferred if an sk existed tbh

 

c'est la vie

 

ty for hosting kaylee

[Tigraine]

Told you all I was town.... apologies accepted.

 

 

Kaylee, awesome game! So glad I got to be in it for my first game back to DM.

 

Killa, good game, sorry I went after you so hard!

 

Manbat, you seemed so scummy to me at first but then you won the whole damn town over so I assumed I had to be wrong about you. It is good to know my intuition was right on at least one person the whole game.

 

Good game guys! Thanks!!

[monstrman]

i think this setup is inherently pro town

[monstrman]

c9++ i mean

 

godfather is too situational to be good

[Sooh]

i think this setup is inherently pro town

There's a reason why it's getting so much critisism. I mean, you could literally end up with three full cops.

[monstrman]

give us a wolf vig we'd have had a shot

[Nynaeve]

 

I was being honest with my take and she was whinging and being repetative. *shrugs*

 

Also i didn't force kaylee to do anything and i even told her to get a second opinion. I still feel like a balanced setup trumps all and i dont really care if it's agreed with or not. That's my ideal when i run my games.

You voiced your opinion, I voiced mine.

You were given the rationale behind a made decision. Whether you agree with it or not was kinda irrelevent at that point seeing as you were a player and it already came to pass. I just didn't see the point of that convo going on and on and on and on.

[Cory Caboose]

Was nice playing with you tig!!! :)

 

Add me to the people praising killashandra, was an absolute pleasure

[Sooh]

I enjoyed playing with Tig and Killa as well (even though I had to check Tig to be sure about her lol). Hope to play with you again soon! <3

[monstrman]

 

i think this setup is inherently pro town

 

There's a reason why it's getting so much critisism. I mean, you could literally end up with three full cops.

ya that's kind of astoundingly bogus

 

and they say "gf balances it out"

 

gf is peeked 1/12 of the time n1, and 1/10 of the time n2 in this setup alone and everyone knows they exist

 

and they're annoying

 

it's not a good role

[monstrman]

i had fun with all you guys and like everyone

 

gg

[Sooh]

 

 

i think this setup is inherently pro town

There's a reason why it's getting so much critisism. I mean, you could literally end up with three full cops.

ya that's kind of astoundingly bogus

 

and they say "gf balances it out"

 

gf is peeked 1/12 of the time n1, and 1/10 of the time n2 in this setup alone and everyone knows they exist

 

and they're annoying

 

it's not a good role

 

I was about to peek him when you killed me though... lol

[Killashandra]

Told you all I was town.... apologies accepted.

Kaylee, awesome game! So glad I got to be in it for my first game back to DM.

Killa, good game, sorry I went after you so hard!

Manbat, you seemed so scummy to me at first but then you won the whole damn town over so I assumed I had to be wrong about you. It is good to know my intuition was right on at least one person the whole game.

Good game guys! Thanks!!

Your fine! No apology needed. We had fun. Also I like you already. <3

 

Poor monstr. You did your best and damn it your best was really good. I thought yeah this dude has got to be scum at the start and then you won me over hard core. Lol

[monstrman]

it's fine

 

I accept the loss

 

you guys played really well too

 

i'm just mad cause i played better during the day and lost cause of 1 bad nk decision