[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

Lizabeth · February 13, 2017

Cuth time well prove you wrong here. Don't do that to yourself.
What happens when time proves you wrong?

It doesn't.

Oh really? You're saying that you're never wrong?

You forget that I've played 3 games with you before this one?

Here we have another over extension. Liz is actively trying to make me look worse because, inordinately, she doesn't see that this is amisplay.

no she isn't

all she says is that you have been wrong in the past, according to her existing experience

that is not "trying to make you look worse"

Yes, she is. Liz isnt aggressive. Town liz doesnt say the bold, she says something like "youve been wrong before on me". That post from her was leading, it was prodding. She should have been suggestive if town.

I'm laughing out loud at this right now.

i'm not aggressive? The very last game I played with you I hounded you aggressively until you finally answered my questions, which you didn't do until the very end of the day and wound up getting mislynched.

My play style was once described as a bright shiny unicorn that winds up stabbing you through the chest with its glittery horn.

Now you're just making crap up that can be easily misproven. I've already posted the link to my last game here.

鲍勃不是我的名字 · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

MrsClov · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

No thoughts after 40 pages? If you weren't going to comment anything why even let us know you were caught up?

Lizabeth · February 13, 2017

Cuth time well prove you wrong here. Don't do that to yourself.
What happens when time proves you wrong?

It doesn't.

Oh really? You're saying that you're never wrong?

You forget that I've played 3 games with you before this one?

Here we have another over extension. Liz is actively trying to make me look worse because, inordinately, she doesn't see that this is amisplay.

no she isn't

all she says is that you have been wrong in the past, according to her existing experience

that is not "trying to make you look worse"

Yes, she is. Liz isnt aggressive. Town liz doesnt say the bold, she says something like "youve been wrong before on me". That post from her was leading, it was prodding. She should have been suggestive if town.

i fail to see how you can classify her play this game as aggressive in any way shape or form

but mebbe that's just me

I think I'm aggressive. But like I said, I'm known for being aggressive. My last game I was accused of not being as aggressive in early game as people expected me to be. Darthe is just spewing nonsense given that he's been on the receiving end of my aggression every game we've ever played in together.

I don't take stuff lying down.

Darthe · February 13, 2017

That's not my meta of you, but you're definitely trying to stab.

I recommend getting a sharper weapon, Darthe is tough to kill.

Lizabeth · February 13, 2017

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

Oh youre sus of me? I never saw that coming, lol

Why shouldn't he be suspicious of you?

I forgot to include Eldrick in my question about what to expect of you as scum, seeing as he was in the last game with you.

And @Dice as well.

A better question is why should he be, given that most players are town and ive not anything on thread for him to sus that I can see, but thats a question for him.

Since youre asking me, it's because im balling out this game. Im so far from wolf darthe in terms of conviction, activity and read progress atm that its absurd to consider me atm.

He gave his reasons for sussing you. And are you trying to actually read yourself in a game? XD

And are you saying you didn't pursue mislynches with conviction in your last game? You must have faked it pretty well since you made it to end game and from what I understand from MrsClov you tunnelled on Eldrick a whole lot that game.

Trying. To. Muddle. Me.

Obvious, and its gonna hurt you way more than me. Im cool with it. As for reading myself, you asked the direct question that led to it, but thats a unique way to spin it so gj :-)

Stop. Shading. And. Respond. To. Content.

How am I trying to muddle you? just answer the damn questions. You're saying things that are false and I'm calling you out on them with facts.

But I'm going to stop responding to you for the moment so you can focus on that homework you said you were going to do...

Lizabeth · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

Why?

Darthe · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

No thoughts after 40 pages? If you weren't going to comment anything why even let us know you were caught up?

To be fair this is panning out right now, but we have to remember one fact at all times when dealing with wifi.

That fact is that she is the most pleasantly oblivious player in the history of this site. Do not ever expect anything strategic or logical of her.

Eldrick4221 · February 13, 2017

He uses alternate facts.

re:this someone said not to do this because it's mildly political

That would have been me.

Lizabeth · February 13, 2017

That's not my meta of you, but you're definitely trying to stab.

I recommend getting a sharper weapon, Darthe is tough to kill.

Darthe, did I say I was trying to kill you? Pay attention to what's being said and stop reading based on "feeling"

either you're town and being reactive/irrational (as in not actually responding to what's being said to you) or you're scum and hiding behind evasion. I'm pointing out provable untruths that you keep repeating. You have done nothing to actually address any of that.

You claim to have a meta on me, but you forget all the times that I've hounded you as town? I don't believe in alternative facts, so don't expect me to not challenge you on that crap.

Okay, really going to stop responding to you for real. Until you follow up on your promise to reread the thread at least.

Lizabeth · February 13, 2017

Darthe: Darthe's only real contribution to the thread at this point has been pointless fluff and picking up on a joke post I made about RVS voting him and then running down the tunnel like there's a pile of gold at the end of it.

Incredibly disingenuous and also very false. Ive not made 3 fluff posts this game and I have content, including a read, on almost every player who has posted.

What are your reads? I must have missed them. I've seen you make a bunch of snarky comments about people voting/not voting you and you throwing out "so woofy" in response to nearly every post that MrsClov and I make. I have yet to see anything that amounts to productive content.

Put in your own effort and go look. Maybe it'll gain you a credible thought on me.

Talk to me directly ad stop throwing shade. If what I'm saying is wrong, then prove me wrong.

Facts matter whether you feel they do or not.

Ok lets settle something here.

Do you know what throwing shade means? Do you even know what shade is? I dont think you do, because youre using it wrong.

Similarly, do you get how this game works? Saying that your alignment is town and thats a fact doesnt have any weight, whatsoever. None. Zilch. Nada. Do you know why?

The answer is that we are uninformed, those of us who actually randed town. I have no way to factually know anything about you, as it is D1, the same that I dont know whp your teammates are or where id go if you flipped x. It's impossible to know.

So go ahead and shut that crap down and ask some real questions or ill happily lynch you to get rid of your thusfar wolfy slot.

Okay, last one (because I missed this before).

Show me where you have responded to any of our posts (before you recently came under fire yourself) with actual content about what it was that you found wolfy, that wasn't "yeah, what he/she said" or that said something that wasn't "this is wolfy".

The bolded is what you've been trying to refute by saying that you "know" that we are scum. I'm not the one pushing that you should know our alignment if you're town. I'm the one who is saying you haven't done anything to explore our

^lynch it first, thank me later. Im simply right, and you can follow me or you can apologize later when its proven.
Again, and I really want you to answer this question. And if you don't remember, we danced this tango the last time we played together so I'll remind you (in case you forgot) that I'm not going to let you get away with evasion or a flimsy answer.

What happens if you get your magic wish and MrsClov and I are lynched. We're going to flip town. What happens then?

And don't say "you won't flip town" because that's a nonanswer. So humour me.

Sure. I've got a bad read on notbob so I'll analyze your train, mostly ignore you but reread mrs clov, and assess from there. Prob notbob given current info

Good, I look forward to your conclusions.

Don't know why you'll ignore me though, given that I left you with lots of open questions. But I'll let that go for now.

And just so we don't get stuck in a circular "what are you talking about" "omg, i just told you!" argument again, here is the homework you promised to do.

Songstress · February 13, 2017

Official Vote Count:

Darthe Wade (2): Cass, Eldrick
Miss Kizzy Clov (3): Dice, Darthe, DPR
NotBob Cassidy (1): Cuth

Wildfire Oakley (1): NotBob

Not Voting: Sooh, WiFi, Hallia, Tiinker, Spoof, Crusher, Miss Kizzy Clov, Seph, Kronos

With 16 alive it takes 9 to string em up!

Deadline for D1 is Tuesday, 2/14/17 at 9:00 AM MST

Darthe · February 13, 2017

That's not my meta of you, but you're definitely trying to stab.

I recommend getting a sharper weapon, Darthe is tough to kill.

Darthe, did I say I was trying to kill you? Pay attention to what's being said and stop reading based on "feeling"

either you're town and being reactive/irrational (as in not actually responding to what's being said to you) or you're scum and hiding behind evasion. I'm pointing out provable untruths that you keep repeating. You have done nothing to actually address any of that.

You claim to have a meta on me, but you forget all the times that I've hounded you as town? I don't believe in alternative facts, so don't expect me to not challenge you on that crap.

Okay, really going to stop responding to you for real. Until you follow up on your promise to reread the thread at least.

I said it feelz right and now you're misrepping as if I am an emotional player in a lot of your posts.

That'd be hillarious if it weren't such a pitifully reductive way to try and back out of this.

You're gonna die, you know?

MrsClov · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

No thoughts after 40 pages? If you weren't going to comment anything why even let us know you were caught up?

Scratch that. It's my bad. I just looked at my notes and saw she had made some thought posts here and there as she was catching up. My bad Wifi.

Darthe · February 13, 2017

Darthe: Darthe's only real contribution to the thread at this point has been pointless fluff and picking up on a joke post I made about RVS voting him and then running down the tunnel like there's a pile of gold at the end of it.

Incredibly disingenuous and also very false. Ive not made 3 fluff posts this game and I have content, including a read, on almost every player who has posted.

What are your reads? I must have missed them. I've seen you make a bunch of snarky comments about people voting/not voting you and you throwing out "so woofy" in response to nearly every post that MrsClov and I make. I have yet to see anything that amounts to productive content.

Put in your own effort and go look. Maybe it'll gain you a credible thought on me.

Talk to me directly ad stop throwing shade. If what I'm saying is wrong, then prove me wrong.

Facts matter whether you feel they do or not.

Ok lets settle something here.

Do you know what throwing shade means? Do you even know what shade is? I dont think you do, because youre using it wrong.

Similarly, do you get how this game works? Saying that your alignment is town and thats a fact doesnt have any weight, whatsoever. None. Zilch. Nada. Do you know why?

The answer is that we are uninformed, those of us who actually randed town. I have no way to factually know anything about you, as it is D1, the same that I dont know whp your teammates are or where id go if you flipped x. It's impossible to know.

So go ahead and shut that crap down and ask some real questions or ill happily lynch you to get rid of your thusfar wolfy slot.

Okay, last one (because I missed this before).

Show me where you have responded to any of our posts (before you recently came under fire yourself) with actual content about what it was that you found wolfy, that wasn't "yeah, what he/she said" or that said something that wasn't "this is wolfy".

The bolded is what you've been trying to refute by saying that you "know" that we are scum. I'm not the one pushing that you should know our alignment if you're town. I'm the one who is saying you haven't done anything to explore our

^lynch it first, thank me later. Im simply right, and you can follow me or you can apologize later when its proven.
Again, and I really want you to answer this question. And if you don't remember, we danced this tango the last time we played together so I'll remind you (in case you forgot) that I'm not going to let you get away with evasion or a flimsy answer.

What happens if you get your magic wish and MrsClov and I are lynched. We're going to flip town. What happens then?

And don't say "you won't flip town" because that's a nonanswer. So humour me.

Sure. I've got a bad read on notbob so I'll analyze your train, mostly ignore you but reread mrs clov, and assess from there. Prob notbob given current info

Good, I look forward to your conclusions.

Don't know why you'll ignore me though, given that I left you with lots of open questions. But I'll let that go for now.

And just so we don't get stuck in a circular "what are you talking about" "omg, i just told you!" argument again, here is the homework you promised to do.

I didn't promise to do jack, I answered your question which is penchant upon you dying. Self vote, flip, and you can get that work from me.

Darthe · February 13, 2017

I caught a wolf almost 40 pages ago and you guys are embarrassing yourselves catching up to that rn.

Hallia · February 13, 2017

part of me wants to vote Wifi on that, but I always read her as scummy, and I am trying to not do that

For now I'm going to

Vote: Eldrick

My opinion hasn't changed.

DPR · February 13, 2017

Okay, HFS you people blab and blab and blab and blab...

Too many people have unvoted Kizzy - I get the part where we don't have a deadline and I do want to see game related posts from everyone before we hammer. But the now infamous post #309 (and subsequent defense of) needs pressure, especially in light of the account being hydra.

Unvote - Vote Kizzy Clov

I checked the Guiness Book of World Records, and it turns out that the scummiest post a mafioso can make is in fact "so who do you think my scummates are?".

Seriously, Lizbeth follows #309 up with one terrible response after another and then Mrs. Clov has to come in and do spin/damage control. But the common denominators connecting all of their posts seem to be:

1. Both players primary focus is to save their account - not to help the Town.

2. Both players beg for mercy at different points and use the clock in their defense.

3. Both players have offered very limited reads, and I am including Mrs. Cov's list. The fluff is there, but the hard lines are lacking.

Ima leave it at that for now and see what else the tide brings in.

Yeah, I'm going to challenge on this.

1. You're going to have to explain to me how saving our account when we are town is not helping town. And I'm going to argue that we've done as much or more than 3/4 of the players when it comes to advancing the thread. It's not our job as town to let ourselves get mislynched while sitting quietly in a corner.

2. point out to me where I begged for mercy, and when either of us used the clock in our defense?

3. MrsClov posted an entire list of her thoughts, and both of us have identified a number of players that we consider to be town. Which is more than you and several other players have done to date.

LOL

No doubt you've choked the thread with your double-team machine gun of poop, but the quality of your content ranges from zero to negative. All either of you has done is defend yourselves, including your directionless speculation and constant defense that has added a horrible amount of reading to cover.

Half of your posts are begging people to look at things in a "different way" because you're going to save the down and blah, blah, blah...

MrsClov's read list was as bad as your observations. Ima nutshell it for ya: anyone who has supported you in any way is Town and everyone else is suspicious.

Just terrible.

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

That's SK talk.

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.
Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.
Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.
Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.

This right here in particular. Horrible reasoning to suss them for. Being suspicious of someone that they expected to be excited for the game is a good reason.

But more importantly the post comes off as worried about the person more than it does suspicious of the player, and it feels like you are just trying to find something to get them on.

LOL. You hittin' up Darthe for LHF? LOL.

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.
Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.
Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.
Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.
I disagree. What would you think she should do given her being under suspicion?

Then youre wrong. She shouldnt focus on some lutlier, she needs to be hyper present to make herself appear more open. This isnt that, it's a distraction.

What's a lutlier?

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.
Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.
Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.
Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.
I disagree. What would you think she should do given her being under suspicion?

Then youre wrong. She shouldnt focus on some lutlier, she needs to be hyper present to make herself appear more open. This isnt that, it's a distraction.

Liz and I combine for 174 posts That's 2nd and 4th I believe. How is that not present?

He uses alternate facts.

re:this someone said not to do this because it's mildly political

I think we can take it. RESIST CENSORSHIP!

That's not my meta of you, but you're definitely trying to stab.

I recommend getting a sharper weapon, Darthe is tough to kill.

Except for this - this should have been censored. You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

鲍勃不是我的名字 · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

Why?

I find it odd that a player who just read 40+ pages has zero thoughts/reads to add to the game commentary. The vote is to show her my displeasure and encourages her to play more obvious.

DPR · February 13, 2017

I'm still LOL'ing from "Darthe is tough to kill".

Songstress · February 13, 2017

Official Vote Count:

Darthe Wade (2): Cass, Eldrick
Miss Kizzy Clov (3): Dice, Darthe, DPR
NotBob Cassidy (1): Cuth
Wildfire Oakley (1): NotBob

Eldrick the Kid (1): Hallia

Not Voting: Sooh, WiFi, Tiinker, Spoof, Crusher, Miss Kizzy Clov, Seph, Kronos

With 16 alive it takes 9 to string em up!

Deadline for D1 is Tuesday, 2/14/17 at 9:00 AM MST

Eldrick4221 · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

Don't hate this vote. Considering it myself.

MrsClov · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

Don't hate this vote. Considering it myself.

I don't hate it, but to be fair, WIFI did post a temporary reads list at least when she got around page 14. I forget what post it was exactly. A follow up post regarding thoughts would have been nice though.

DPR · February 13, 2017

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

Don't hate this vote. Considering it myself.

caught up but now have to go to bed. see you all in the morning.....oh and please don't blow up the thread....

Unvote, Vote WiFi.

Don't hate this vote. Considering it myself.

I don't hate it, but to be fair, WIFI did post a temporary reads list at least when she got around page 14. I forget what post it was exactly. A follow up post regarding thoughts would have been nice though.

GTFO

Post #310 should have been this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv7Ui4z-ga0

DPR · February 13, 2017

Then we could have had a quick lynch, congratulated each other on lynching scum and done without 500+ extra posts.

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