Not sure of the context here, but if this was referring to something like a scar, once the body had healed it, it has already healed, you just have a scar, whereas perhaps a greater with Talent with healing would result in a lesser scar. As Healing has a cost, it could be that the cost/benefit ratio to his health would not be favourable, and again if it was internal bleeding or something perhaps she did not want to risk imperfect healing where scarring could be fatal or severely debilitating, as mentioned above. Or of course it could be that that the raise of the metabolism is equally exhausting regardless of how well it heals, so perhaps Perrin was so close to death that attempting to Heal him could risk killing him without properly healing him. Of course this is only speculation and hardly deductive. It could also of course simply depend on how much narrativium is in the wound. Jordan's magic system is very far from a hard system that you can game with its parameters, imho at least.

@Ithillian Turambar I think before the whole TMI thing kicked off you were asking me something. I'll check back later and have a look, just posting this as a reminder.

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I don't need one but certainly not opposed to one either.

My point was, that if people aren't even going to listen to me about factual matters, what is the point? I was making clear that I was 100% behind what I was arguing. Self voting is explicitly allowed in this game. It is not like I was committing suicide instead of eliminating a wolf. If I say "the sky is blue" and everyone disagrees, how do I fight that? Best I can do in that situation is take one for the team and prove the sky is blue, but I'd rather people would just look up themselves.

But I quoted all this to you. Or was I in the Rand category of only posting "I hate DPR" so you never read any of my replies? This is thing I don't get, I backed up my response with the quote in the "Stone Cold says so" post that you quoted. How is it possible you missed what was directly quoted to you in response to a question? UNVOTE VOTE DPR Until you can explain back goes the vote again for exactly the same reasons it has been there since D1.

Dude, I know I'm town, though don't I? So it is a big minus for his townie status to me.

I don't follow? Yes my WiM is broken. I pointed out the Marsh thing and the "I had TMI" repeatedly as being incorrect, and no one cared. Only DPR pushing it made it an issue. So what am I meant to do? And as I say all my reads are garbage, the game a write-off as long as DPR is unCC'd. What am I meant to fight? The accusations against me are nonsensical but anything I say is "emo". I have no read on whose town or mafia, so I can only be defensive against pushes. I'm doing my best to contribute but I'm being attacked from all sides and it doesn't feel like any of my counters are getting through, not even when it is "look, this didn't happen" when it didn't.

Ought? I mean from your eagerness to jump on a townie train even though the reason was demonstrably false. Has to be held against you.

So we have to ask if this is plausibly a mistake (weirdly similar to the Marsh incident) or if DPR was just betting again that no one would care about my emo response. This sucks.

So do see where my frustration is coming from? I told him this at the time, I've told him since and I've told him now. I suppose a plus is Dice seems to have rather outed himself as mafia, lol. Well, possibly.

And I would just like to point out I quoted all this in my original post to DPR. All the info was available to him when he made this ridiculous claim, and yet he still persisted and doubled down when I pointed it out.

I am not making an ate. I'm totally serious. DPR is not telling the truth, or has his timeline messed up or is on LSD, I dunno. But I can 100% tell you this is complete nonsense but despite me pointing this out the debate continues. What am I meant to do? This is a factual issue. That I have the right of. How can this discussion be going on so long?

That is absolutely not true. The whole thing was already discussed in the fluffing quotes I gave you at the time. Plus read what it says - I said the Condemner randomly chooses someone for their night action as they don't know who is which character. I said nothing about how Darthe chose the person as target. But one would assume Rand.org no? But this is just nonsense. Either you cannot read or you are lying. So let's just get this over with. Put your money where your mouth is. If you've caught me out, hammer me and gloat. I'll even help. VOTE HEAVY Or let this drop. This did not happen like you are claiming and I'm not putting up with this BS any more. You aren't listening to me, you are misrepping what happened in the thread, you are quoting me and saying it says something different than it does. What am I meant to do? The facts are there for everyone to see and you are just spewing lies for the Light alone knows what reason. Everyone can see you aren't telling the truth.

This is like pulling teeth. So what in that quote, according to you is too much information? Please use words to explicitly state that.

You aren't going to say? You are just going to keep this weird quoting something completely innocent and saying there. What are you claiming I knew I shouldn't? How am I meant defend myself if you won't be specific?

I just cannot... What are you guys talking about? I repeat the question what info did I have that was meant to be hidden? Say it explicitly.

What info?

Bangs head on table. What? You mean where I say they randomly pick a target? Because they are looking for a character but they have no idea which player is which so they can only randomly pick people and hope? That is where I'm using TMI? I suppose also if they know the real name of the character they should be able to work out if it is a good guy (lie Sean Connery) or a bad guy (like the Terminator),as in not just knowing the callsign from the story or something. Or am I again showing TMI? Seriously this is what you have been going on about the whole time? Words fail me. I'll bite back on the snark but seriously dude.

As in Ed fished, Rand was the one that stubbornly refused to accept the claim. Obviously the wolves thought it was enough to merit an NK and they were right. Once they had that, standing out like a sore thumb trying to protect Ed when he would get eliminated without mafia help anyway would be dumb, could easily be argued.

I know nothing more about the role than was discussed in the thread.

Fwiw I thought you were fine on EoD. Dice's reluctance looked worse, and I think someone else seemed rather reticent, Zander was definitely, but given the circumstances it is difficult to call anything I saw AI. Trouble is once mafia got their tell on Rand with the fishing anyone could have finished Ed off for town cred or at least made sure they didn't stand out. Seems like WIFOM to do anything than be happy Ed was caught. Don't have the WiM to reread.

Bah thought I had lost that post, not double posted. Sorry. Anyway my WiM is gone. Zander has a hard on for me despite having nothing to back it up. I'm inactive when I'm not. I sound different with explaining at all how or why those differences would be AI. Tigs wtl me because I didn't run around after Zander. Ithi is using the most awful arguments - I have no thoughts so I've been sheeping Marsh's thoughts all game. I'm trying to hide things I'm discussing. And every single one of my reads is garbage as DPR was actually trolling everyone in the thread in a gambit that without his claim would have gotten him eliminated after only one night action. Which obviously really backs up the really skilled wordsmith tirelessly working for town picture that Ithi is painting. So nearly a full week of my time, huge amount of stress and worry was all made completely irrelevant because of the actions of *checks notes* oh, yeah, someone on my team. And what the fluff was on p. 32? Another reason that DPR is definitely town, mafia would have told us, whose argument was that? Humbug, I say, humbug.

I have never said this - I have always said his actions were Mafia through and through. DPR made the comment that most of my read was based on tone - my own words (he claimed) - and actions, but the actions were more tone based as well. It is strange to see you parrot back what he said, ignoring what I've said. I also notice you haven't mentioned why you theorised I was trying to make everyone forget Marsh was voting for me when I mentioned in the very post your were replying to. Also saying you mentioned DPR's gambit four hours before he claimed in a very specific convoy with Verb, is hardly including it in your reads or explaining why you feel when he was obviously creating drama in a fake and contrived way that you would not mention in your reads, and not consider the possibility it was AI. He was using a sledgehammer itt, it does not become a delicate precision tool because you assume he is working for town. Indeed his skill with words in no way makes him more likely to be town as you are trying to claim. That does not make any sense to me at all.