Yup, I don't need to try hard to be nice, and everything else you have said is wrong.

Lol. I'm not talking about my feelings but my read. You know, the point of the game? And you are literally misrepping what has happened, confusing different issues and then accuse me of twisting every little thing? Eh, sure, sugar.

A bunch. Stuff scrunched together. A wad of bank notes. Common word in the UK. Though we'd say knickers in a twist for that idiom.

Lol, what has me pushing back against new player bias got to do with lynch/elimination? Where are you going with this? I'm scratching my head here, lol. You can take that as a rhetorical question. Though yeah apparently returning to the game isn't an option then. I'd call this distraction more than faffing about when the thread opens. Filling the thread when it should be getting down to business with nonsense that looks enough like wolf hunting to try and pass as being active. Not filling me with town feelings about you.

Except, no I didn't. I used the acronym wte instead of wtl, and other people had a problem. Are you looking for a reason for an argument or are you misrepping me for other reasons? Honest question.

Teph's paraphrasing does not quite capture what I actually said. I don't like people using the word Lynch as it is my name. Like what people write on envelopes if they want to send me a letter name. But I'm not going to ask people not to use it because of that. It is just a distraction for me personally. I choose not to use it because I already found it very difficult not to use it in my first game (or maybe second). So if I play dozens of games and then play somewhere it is against the rules or with someone that doesn't like it for better reasons than me, I was anticipating that would be a problem for me. So. I am acting proactively. Mafia is not a nice game, no, but the people playing have a choice on how they play. You play the way you want and you accept the consequences of that. I don't see this as a difficult concept. Now can we maybe return to the game?

I did vote?

Except me? See, this is why I feel ignored, lol.

Me too. Then ask Nyra to help with the next one and cast every spell in the book. Except for the first one, not really sure a stone wall is going to help a lot here.

Start with 3 and leave the others for the more intense waves? Not really sure on this one.

*derailed sorry.

Because a distraction needs to distract from something. If you aren't distracting from something, how can it be a distraction? There wasn't anything going on. There were no discussions being detailed. No reads list being buried. Why would Wolf!Sinister be any more likely than Town!Sinister to do these things? I don't see any motivation and without intent I cannot see it as AI.

VOTE PEACE I'm not liking the fixation on early D1. Sure we don't have a lot to go on, but sussing people for distraction seems odd. Sinister days it was an icebreaker, that makes way more sense than anything else. Teph was joking, I cannot see either building a case of any kind on this. I don't see either behaviour as pro-wolf or anti-town. Sure it is a little unorthodox, but I prefer to look for intent rather than trying to identify people as low hanging fruit. I don't think this is a smoking gun, hut people asked for votes and trains, and the reasoning Peace has used feels flimsy enough to be an attempt at a miselimination. Sure there is still a lot to come before EoD, so I'm not saying my vote won't be moving. Not sure I enjoy agreeing with DPR, lol. Only joking 🙂

Ashes

Ask Nyra again? Or just start the first trial. We might be here for a while yet otherwise.

Morning Ithi. I'm having trouble forming reads in this game. Bizarrely enough I'm feeling good about most people rather than suspicious. Like Dice I'm a bit sketchy on the Sinister/Teph bussing. That doesn't seem to make any sense as a play, and I seems to me they were interacting as they were the two most active people at the time. Plus photoshopping wolves in someone's garden must the most terrible way of throwing shade I can think of. @Tigraine no need to apologise for thinking I was mafia. Honestly, it's a common misconception, lol.

Well I'm off to bed. Though nice to see another player weigh in on the new player issue. So can we now draw a line under it and just treat each player like they are a player?

You'd think we should start at 1 with the trial of beginning but I suppose we should ask Nyra?

Let's get to hunting wolves then. And that will go easier if everyone is suspected and everyone's intuition and reasoning is listened to. This is a long day. Things will get heated and to point as DL approaches. We need to sound each other out so it would be great if everyone could contribute.

Yeah I am not going to answer that.

BS. The premise is new players are stupid and cannot find their own rear ends with both hands. An unknown quantity does not mean illogical or poor play. And wolves can only easily jump on new players if you normalise jumping on new players as town behaviour. Wolves taking advantage of you is part of the game. Having everyone treat you like a second class player because you are new should not be, yet currently is. I will absolutely die on this hill. This should not be any part of the game, it is insane that you are arguing that new players should be treated differently.

I am most definitely sure.

Guys if you are really saying that only established players deserve respect I think you need to rethink your biases against new players. I cannot believe this is even an issue. I'm not ever going to let someone call new players a danger to themselves and those around them without saying something so maybe just stop making or supporting that analogy, however it was meant?

So instead of them being treated with respect and them exiting on D1 due to their own play (obviously not the people voting for them) it is better to insult them and treat them like children that are in danger of disrupting your game? Hard disagree.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. I still don't think the mental image of someone cutting their own body parts off a accurately sums up an unknown quantity, but thanks for the clarification.