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  1. Yes, in the Tower the Black Ajah can easily kidnap another Aes Sedai, but there is no way for them to take the AS out of the tower or bring in Fades. It would be harder to kidnap AS outside of the Tower. When the BA decided to reveal who 13 of them were it was for a major trap for the Dragon, not to catch one sister too early to be used in the Final Battle. Turning people years before the Final Battle is too dangerous because they can’t hide who they are as well as the regular BA. Also once the Tower figures out people are being turned, the whole of the BA becomes at risk.
  2. Verin gets back with the girls at the beginning of book 3 and she gives the Horn of Valere to Siuan. But she hid from everyone what she brought back so it would have been a well guarded secret. But what did she tell the Black Ajah was in the bag???
  3. Do you have someone in your family (like a grandmother or great grandmother) with a name similar to a character in the book?
  4. And a woman in the black Ajah 😮
  5. Ogier were police in the AoL. I thought the Seanchan Ogier didn’t find the Stedding. And the ruler of Seanchan cared for them until they could live without the Stedding changing them into a harsher personality. Then that family married into the Hawkwing family. 🤷
  6. One can logically infer if this device can do what the AoL device couldn’t, then it must have been a Breaking time device, trying to save the human race, and they probably did back then, maybe used it once, or many times until the world settled down and when they didn’t need it to right the weather anymore, the pattern hid it from the world. you don’t have to reach the same conclusions given the same data, I would like to hear what other people think.
  7. The book is very clear it wasn’t windfinder skill, just initiated. that is cannon, period. you don’t have to agree. I see no point to restate anything else.
  8. But the Damane would not really be reaarded for improving things, they would probably be punished, so they can’t innovate. And even tho the Suldam can kind of see weaves and stuff at the end of the day, they aren’t holding the weaves, they aren’t manipulating the weaves, and so they can’t innovate as well.
  9. “One such device should not be enough to affect even a large part of a single continent.” If the device he was thinking of could not affect even a significant portion of one continent, that implies it is a different device. In the AoL, weather stations would be located on top of a buildings and other choice locations and feed information to a computer that would collect all the data and the send all the commands to an automated global system of devices powered by the Standing Wave. Automated systems mentioned by another Forsaken (?Asmodean) aren’t operated by people, but there could be Terangreal in the system which are triggered by the computer system, probably by input power from the standing wave, not initiated by Saidar. The people who created the terangreal of the AoL didn’t include an alternate initialization for an automated terangreal powered by the Standing Wave to also allow women to use them. If we disagree what is cannon, we will disagree on much, even if we agree on what is cannon, we could still have different perspectives on what’s what. Maybe if the Bowl of Winds was a broken melted lump at the end of the channeling you could argue it was used beyond its capacity (much like the female Choen Dal (which doesn’t make sense that it could break when used)) but it wasn’t. It isn’t the same device. And even if the Seafolk used a secret chord to change the weather, it still wasn’t weather skill, it was merely knowledge of that secret chord.
  10. the choen dal wouldn’t have solved that problem. Also, I have no idea what methods could be used to heal a tear in the fabric of the universe. Maybe they could have wrapped it temporarily, cutting off Darkfriends from DO, maybe even trapping Forsaken inside. Then with the head of the beast temporarily cut off, find a more permanent solution.
  11. Traveling a regular gateway isn’t as effective as a deathgate. A deathgate opens to a new location each time it opens and deposits a few body in each random location to prevent clogging up the gate.
  12. I have no idea what you are referring to. I am referring to the placement of stars with increasing points to initiate the bowl of winds. The book doesn’t describe any other channeling. Age of Legend didn’t use bowls of winds. They had black boxes in the basements of structures with sensor arrays on the roof. Probably powered by the standing wave. the Bowl of Winds, is a Breaking terangreal, either made by a Seafolk person(s) or granted to the Seafolk.
  13. In LTT’s defense, he had a working solution that could be applied at that time. The women didn’t have access to Choen Dal. And the world was falling apart. I see the women as being obstinate and shortsighted.
  14. Scar, the book itself is very clear, they initiated it. If your source contradicts the books, you shouldn’t consider it cannon, you know I don’t. Heavy, Forsaken can be surprised by many things, my assumption the Bowl was a Breaking tech not AoL tech is enough, but add that the total power used was more than could be created by an ordinary full circle of Aes Sedai would add on too.
  15. The simplest read, is that Rand got a gift from the Creator. More complex, at the Bore, he was able to manipulate the threads of the pattern and that ability stuck with him. Even more complex, the ability to manipulate the world was always present but he never believed he could so he created an intermediate way of doing things, like a block, preventing from seeing the limitless power he always had access to, and after he sidestepped that at the Bore the illusion disappeared and he didn’t take the time to reform the illusion/Block.
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