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  On 1/19/2017 at 11:00 PM, Sooh said:

THAT’S A LYNCH!

 

Darthe (1): Eldrick

 

Wildfire (3): Lenlo, Niniel, Hallia

 

Hallia (7): Dice, MrsClov, AJ, Nolder, Wildfire, Bopolis, Verbal

 

Eldrick (1): Ironeyes

 

Not voting (1): Darthe,

 

 

NO POSTING UNTIL REVEAL!!

 

 

here it is.

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Posted
  On 2/2/2017 at 5:43 PM, Sooh said:

Ok, Mistborn is for next time I write a flavorless game. I barely knew of its existence this time around.

Sounds good. It's a fantastic series, I highly recommend it. 

Posted
  On 1/19/2017 at 10:33 PM, Sooh said:

Vote count:

 

Darthe (1): Eldrick

 

Wildfire (6): Lenlo, Bopolis, Ironeyes, Niniel, Hallia, Verbal

 

Hallia (5): Dice, MrsClov, AJ, Nolder, Wildfire

 

Not voting (1): Darthe,

 

 

 

EOD1 in:

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Ok, this is important to

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  On 1/19/2017 at 10:33 PM, Sooh said:

Vote count:

 

Darthe (1): Eldrick

 

Wildfire (6): Lenlo, Bopolis, Ironeyes, Niniel, Hallia, Verbal

 

Hallia (5): Dice, MrsClov, AJ, Nolder, Wildfire

 

Not voting (1): Darthe,

 

 

 

EOD1 in:

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Day 1 was a really close run between lynching town and mafia. People that chose you over mafia were more likely town (what Bop would call level1)

 

Yet 3 of the 4 mislynches were from the people that were on mafia before the claim

 

Obv there's a chance of bussing, but it's less likely Day 1 (and I like level1 play)

 

Basically darthe is right that losing you N1 hurt town, but in this case lynching mafia should have compensated :(

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  On 2/2/2017 at 6:16 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 6:05 PM, Darthe said:

Ouch, well good news is we have a thriving site of a close knit group of players who dont throw too much!

 

Btw that wild claim D1 was not good for this town.

How would you have handled it, if you were in my position?

A watcher in this game never makes it past the night they claim, so I would only ever claim at L-1 and only then if I thought I couldnt sway the nonvoters. You essentially became a named townie for the day.

 

Tbf though, it wasnt a huge equity shift. Lynching hally was, but your role was too weak to be a big deal this round.

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  On 2/2/2017 at 6:17 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 6:12 PM, Darthe said:

Btw, we should really talk about emo displays psuedo clearing players... That really would have sucked to lose to if I didnt flip on eldrick, and it woulda happened.

Disagree with this though :P

 

Emotion is part of the game, you can't regulate it

Sure, but if its a hard clear for certain players then its a problem. It's no different from having a code word with friends that you only use when youre town.

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  On 2/2/2017 at 6:19 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 6:16 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 6:05 PM, Darthe said:

Ouch, well good news is we have a thriving site of a close knit group of players who dont throw too much!

 

Btw that wild claim D1 was not good for this town.

How would you have handled it, if you were in my position?
Eh, lynching Hallia should have been huge

 

It's just for some reason town lynched mostly on the train instead of off :(

Tru tru

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  On 2/2/2017 at 7:01 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 6:17 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 6:12 PM, Darthe said:

Btw, we should really talk about emo displays psuedo clearing players... That really would have sucked to lose to if I didnt flip on eldrick, and it woulda happened.

Disagree with this though :P

 

Emotion is part of the game, you can't regulate it

Sure, but if its a hard clear for certain players then its a problem. It's no different from having a code word with friends that you only use when youre town.

Except hard clear is deliberate, emotions are reactionary

 

It's no different from any other meta tell

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For manbat, maybe. Emotions need to be as in check as our words or logic though, else we could use them in angleshooty ways. Thats my argument here, and it becomes a problem when a player can be universally hardcleared by it.

 

Its not a huge point, and it wasnt a determining factor here, but im pointing it out because it concerns me and has a few times before.

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I find that I feel bad about getting too emotional when I'm mafia, just because I don't want to manipulate people. I need to incorporate that into my town play as well, because I don't want to win the game based on manipulation. 

 

It's not that that happened here, it has just been on my mind a few times.

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  On 2/2/2017 at 7:22 PM, Darthe said:

For manbat, maybe. Emotions need to be as in check as our words or logic though, else we could use them in angleshooty ways. Thats my argument here, and it becomes a problem when a player can be universally hardcleared by it.

 

Its not a huge point, and it wasnt a determining factor here, but im pointing it out because it concerns me and has a few times before.

I'm not sure how you're determining angle shooting in this instance?

if it's ever used on purpose than it's faked and there are players here who will pick up on that, or as soon as it's known that it's faked people will ignore it. If it's genuine it's not angle-shooty :unsure:

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  On 2/2/2017 at 7:22 PM, Darthe said:

For manbat, maybe. Emotions need to be as in check as our words or logic though, else we could use them in angleshooty ways. Thats my argument here, and it becomes a problem when a player can be universally hardcleared by it.

 

Its not a huge point, and it wasnt a determining factor here, but im pointing it out because it concerns me and has a few times before.

 

are you talking about me?  cause I don't use emotion on purpose, it just comes out.  Usually frustration after I screwed up several posts and I need to explain myself or I get mislynched.  Which happens almost every game except a few where I have survived to EG.  It's just who I am.  

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I think Darthe is mainly talking about in general here. If anyone was hard cleared by being emotional in this game it would have been Eldrick I think.

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Not talking about anyone specific <3 this is not a problem anyone in this game had, cquse no one used it to try and manipulate the game. I just see it as something to be wary of.

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  On 2/2/2017 at 7:42 PM, Sooh said:

I think Darthe is mainly talking about in general here. If anyone was hard cleared by being emotional in this game it would have been Eldrick I think.

And he was, and thats a bit frustrating to play around, but im not saying id advocate modkilling players who get upset etc, I just wish it were something we could avoid cause its a valid way to hard clear someone with something that isnt derived from their performance related to the game or mechanics. Its from saying "wow if that person faked that that would make them manipulative on a level I dont think theyd do for an in game victory".

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  On 2/2/2017 at 7:46 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 7:42 PM, Sooh said:

I think Darthe is mainly talking about in general here. If anyone was hard cleared by being emotional in this game it would have been Eldrick I think.

And he was, and thats a bit frustrating to play around, but im not saying id advocate modkilling players who get upset etc, I just wish it were something we could avoid cause its a valid way to hard clear someone with something that isnt derived from their performance related to the game or mechanics. Its from saying "wow if that person faked that that would make them manipulative on a level I dont think theyd do for an in game victory".

 

 

I understand your point - I think my statement when I cleared Eldrick is what may have made you think this:  "I read the man, not the player."

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It was you and AJ that sparked the thought. Believe me, I love some AtE. Thats part of the game. It's doing something, anything really, to a point of extremeness that it can clear a player for non game reasons that I'm mentioning as a qualm, or at least looking for discussion on.

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I'm still annoyed that my emotional point was used to clear me. I really didn't want it to, but I can't do anything about how people react.

 

My moving my vote to myself to tie the votes was strategical, not emotional. I was willing to risk dying for a chance to get my scum read.

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  On 2/2/2017 at 5:32 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 5:23 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

You can say they were for bad reasons all you want. I correctly read you D1 twice now.

Once I have a town baseline to compare them with, I might be able to tell when you are town as well.

Maybe! I suspect that you'll wolf read me, but if not then that could be exciting, a chance for me to improve in a way I can see. What types you off about my claim anyhow?

I explained this before, but ok.

 

Watcher was the only PR in the game, yes it was weak, but your line about discussing it I read as trying to get tiwn to talk about who is or isn't the watcher.

 

Do you believe I'm the watcher? Why or why not? This line of reasoning leads to figuring out roles if you know what to look for. It's role fishing at its finest, because it looks like what it was interpreted as. A way to get the game going.

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  On 2/3/2017 at 12:46 AM, bopolis said:

i think a big mistake was lynching nolder on day 2.

 

gg everyone

I don't regret any of my mislynches. They were all for good reasons.

 

And this plays into what I was saying earlier. Townies follow me onto lynches for the reasons I find. That means they aren't bad reasons. I just need to work on being right more often.

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  On 2/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 2/3/2017 at 12:46 AM, bopolis said:

i think a big mistake was lynching nolder on day 2.

 

gg everyone

I don't regret any of my mislynches. They were all for good reasons.

 

And this plays into what I was saying earlier. Townies follow me onto lynches for the reasons I find. That means they aren't bad reasons. I just need to work on being right more often.

 

 

 

lynching nolder was still beyond bad.

 

Before wifi's claim there were pretty much split wagons between a wolf and a villa on day 1 near the EoD.

 

I get bussing could happen, but never in the history of ever do you start lynching into people on hallia's wagon the very next day. You 100% give them at least a day and it's fine to wolf read them, but find their partner instead.

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  On 2/3/2017 at 1:17 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 5:32 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 5:23 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

You can say they were for bad reasons all you want. I correctly read you D1 twice now.

Once I have a town baseline to compare them with, I might be able to tell when you are town as well.

Maybe! I suspect that you'll wolf read me, but if not then that could be exciting, a chance for me to improve in a way I can see. What types you off about my claim anyhow?
I explained this before, but ok.

 

Watcher was the only PR in the game, yes it was weak, but your line about discussing it I read as trying to get tiwn to talk about who is or isn't the watcher.

 

Do you believe I'm the watcher? Why or why not? This line of reasoning leads to figuring out roles if you know what to look for. It's role fishing at its finest, because it looks like what it was interpreted as. A way to get the game going.

Then you were def a fluke.

 

Making a statement then continuing with:

 

Discuss.

 

Is practically a meme and has been around for ages and said by at least a dozen players as either alignment on this forum. Hell, I was thinking of Cory as I did it.

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  On 2/3/2017 at 1:13 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

I'm still annoyed that my emotional point was used to clear me. I really didn't want it to, but I can't do anything about how people react.

 

My moving my vote to myself to tie the votes was strategical, not emotional. I was willing to risk dying for a chance to get my scum read.

 

Agree to disagree - you were clearly being emotional, and I don't really think you were thinking clearly at that moment.  I think that you're applying a logical thought process to it now - but I don't think you were at the time (and I read you based on how illogical you were being).

 

 

 

 

  On 2/3/2017 at 12:29 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 2/3/2017 at 1:17 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 5:32 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 2/2/2017 at 5:23 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

You can say they were for bad reasons all you want. I correctly read you D1 twice now.

Once I have a town baseline to compare them with, I might be able to tell when you are town as well.

Maybe! I suspect that you'll wolf read me, but if not then that could be exciting, a chance for me to improve in a way I can see. What types you off about my claim anyhow?
I explained this before, but ok.

 

Watcher was the only PR in the game, yes it was weak, but your line about discussing it I read as trying to get tiwn to talk about who is or isn't the watcher.

 

Do you believe I'm the watcher? Why or why not? This line of reasoning leads to figuring out roles if you know what to look for. It's role fishing at its finest, because it looks like what it was interpreted as. A way to get the game going.

Then you were def a fluke.

 

Making a statement then continuing with:

 

Discuss.

 

Is practically a meme and has been around for ages and said by at least a dozen players as either alignment on this forum. Hell, I was thinking of Cory as I did it.

 

 

I already said it was a blind squirrel.  Countless people have made that same type of statement as any alignment in games - it is so null that there should be a new word to describe how null it is.

 

But anything else he saw in you was probably legit - I just can't get behind that entry post being incriminating.

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