[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[Darthe]

Theres this post of mine where I talked about thinking there was one wolf on train and one wolf off.  I really strongly thought that at the time, because it just makes sense for wolves to spread themselves like that on the day that Len was snap lynched.  You'll remember that me ridiculing that is what also turned AJ on me (instantly lol).  

 

 

That post would be super helpful right now, because it should be a lot clearer now that I've outlined how I got to where i did on my reads.  The only thing missing here is the Eldrick side, but summate it I remember eldrick didn't bite on verb, and moved away from a verb lynch two days in a row which would have bit him in the ass were they w/w.  I thought for a long while that Verb/Eldrick was a thing, decided against it based on Verb challenging Eldrick so much and the above, but I realized that both still had wolf equity in my mind.  They still do, for the record.  I also saw that we had this interesting split on those votes that day where Verb was the only real suspect I had off wagon, can't remember who else was off wagon off the top of my head, and that we had aj/eldrick/mrs clov on wagon.

 

In my head at the time, I'm thinking Mrs Clov is off just because she is posting waaay too clean and I have no idea what her wolf game looks like, but her town game is usually middle of the pack.  I'm also thinking that AJ has been too bold to be a wolf.  But I definitely think we have a deep wolf, and I need to resolve between the three on the train which was aj/eldrick/mrsclov.

 

 

So I think this is clarified to all hell.  If you ask me "what if I'm town", then I say well then verb isn't because he is off wagon and makes sense, and mrsclov looks wolfier between the others.  Theres no world where I have other suspects at that time, because at that time that is where my head was.  

[Andrej]

Seriously kill this dude tomorrow.

[Darthe]

  On 1/28/2017 at 4:10 PM, Andrej said:

Darthe/Dice/Nini

 

Gg

 

You keep trying AJ!

 

[Darthe]

  On 1/28/2017 at 4:30 PM, Andrej said:

Seriously kill this dude tomorrow.

Sure, let's go with that.

 

If you aren't a wolf, how do I make it through tomorrow?  I reasonably cannot.  

 

You should either try AtE or spidey gifs AJ, it was a good run.

[Andrej]

You're selectively ignoring the points that don't make me scum in this game and instead reframing them to your advantage. If anything I'm a pretty capable scum player and there's no need for me to put myself out front D2-D3 while you were awol and make myself look terrible by starting two straight townie ML wagons late when I could've rode the current ones to sunset and never looked back.

 

Also, I never played with Marsh until this past year so that's false. My first game was in late 2012 I believe.

[Andrej]

  On 1/28/2017 at 4:38 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 4:30 PM, Andrej said:

Seriously kill this dude tomorrow.

Sure, let's go with that.

 

If you aren't a wolf, how do I make it through tomorrow? I reasonably cannot.

 

You should either try AtE or spidey gifs AJ, it was a good run.

Fine by me. I'm happy to take the drop since you've exposed yourself and I can clear my name.

 

I won't be able to play after this weekend anyway

[Andrej]

Matter of fact I bet I could even call your plan.

 

You hope this lynch goes through. You NK Verb and then wait for one of Marsh and whoever is Town between Nini/Dice to follow you onto Eldrick which you've been quite openly projecting now. It's Hackers 2.0

[Andrej]

Cause regardless of my flip Eldrick is still a wolf no matter what right?

 

You're obvious. Have fun

[Niniel]

  On 1/28/2017 at 2:43 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 9:53 AM, Niniel said:

Okay, I don´t have my old notes here but here are the notes I have from when I posted during the night. Copied from Word doc.

 

 

 

#1587 Eld want to lynch Verb since he has been almost lynched, even if he is town, mafia could try to set up a lynch on him = clearing up the situation

#1588 AJ agrees with Verb about Dice – haven´t done anything, hides as mafia

#1593 AJ agrees with Verb – hard to read Nini + don´t like Darthe´s overall play, after lynch reaction, associated reads

#1596 Eld – Nini is null/town

#1598 AJ – won´t vote MrsClove, Verb (changed D3), Eld (emo), rest = poe

#1601 Eld – Dice can´t be mafia because of changing votes??? (Explains in #1615)

#1604 Verb asks me a question!!!!

#1611 Eld starting to thinfoil on Dice. Possible Dice/Marsh.

#1621 Darthe – one mafia on the lynch/one off, Verb/Eld not on a team, MrsClov is town,

#1625 MrsClov – possible couples

#1640 Dice – Eld is wolf, AJ bugging him,

#1647 Eld – Darthe´s post is good

#1648 Eld about Darthe´s activity – both AJ and Darthe are right

#1649 Sooh – MrsClov is dead

#1653 Eld – thinks Bop died because of mafia reads on Verb, Marsh and Lenlo

#1656 Eld – going for Darthe or Marsh today

#1658 AJ – Verb is town, Marsh/Nini wasn´t on Hallia, don´t like Dice sussing AJ, Darthe scummy

#1662 Eld – vote Darthe

#1665 Eld – unvote (AJ said he wanted to hear from everyone first)

#1666 Eld – paranoid thinfoil – AJ and Verb, AJ been involved in both mislynches and both are good scum, both townreading each other

#1667 AJ to Eld – Verb has not townread him

#1670 Eld to AJ – looked it up, was wrong about Verb

#1672 Dice vote AJ

#1676 Verb – want to vote Marsh, don´t want to lynch Eld or AJ (but has started to feel worse about AJ)

#1682 Darthe suspects Eld because Eld wants to vote him

#1684 Darthe – Eld + AJ – both have changed their minds about him recently

#1685 Darthe vote AJ

#1690 Darthe list: Town is Marsh, Verb, Nin, Possible town: Dice, mafia = AJ and Eld

#1703 Eld vote Darthe

#1708 Eld: Dice moved from Eld to Len but now changes back

#1710 Eld vote Dice

#1722 Darthe explains why Marsh is town

#1726 AJ vote Darthe – went overboard with Marsh explanation

#1739 Eld – Likely town = AJ and Nini, rest potential mafia

 

I don´t know if you get them but here is what I have found, searching for people´s reads.

 

I will answer Verbal´s question and then I will get back to these notes.

This is I not A. Do better.

What do you mean?

[dicetosser1]

  On 1/28/2017 at 2:42 PM, Darthe said:

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 9:26 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 9:14 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 9:10 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 8:58 AM, Andrej said:

The main wickets: Townies are open. Townies are relaxed. Marsh displays these qualities.

Congrats.

To further these extremely generic reasons - what is the comparison to Marsh as scum?

What is the baseline?

Generic reasons aren't bad ones if they work, but you're right about needing the baseline too.

They're fine for D1 reads.

 

Darthe claims to not remember games from months ago. If Marsh hasn't been scum since his return Darthe remembers his playstyle specifically from years ago? I call bull.

 

I wouldn't really give a crap about my hundredth game with the five hundredth person I played with, but my first loss comes to a team that guy was on and I assure you, I didn't get lauded in this community enough to be nominated for player of the year multiple times, and sent to champs to represent DM, on the casual play I display now.  I cared a lot back then.  

 

AJ knows all of this btw.  He was around for a fair bit before I took a break.  

 

 

it was also a fairly rememberall game

 

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 3:51 PM, Darthe said:

So I got my verbal quotes, and decided to reddit for a few minutes, and an hour later I found myself reading about the australian citizenship test which is hillarious.

 

No way in hell am I Isoing Eldrick to make my point more convincing than this btw, you can lynch me first.

 

whats so funny about our test?

 

 

  On 1/28/2017 at 4:43 PM, Andrej said:

Matter of fact I bet I could even call your plan.

 

You hope this lynch goes through. You NK Verb and then wait for one of Marsh and whoever is Town between Nini/Dice to follow you onto Eldrick which you've been quite openly projecting now. It's Hackers 2.0

 

 

yeah cause that worked so well last time 

[Andrej]

Calling it how I see it Dice.

 

Keep that mindset going into F5 if you're Town.

[Andrej]

Wolves are gonna lurk lurk lurk lurk lurk

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

AJ (2): Dice, Darthe

 

Dice (1): Eldrick

 

Darthe (1): AJ

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (2): Ironeyes, Verbal

 

EOD4 in: 

[Verbal32]

It bothers me that Dice chimes in with completely unrelated comments and ignores where we are in the game.

[Verbal32]

  On 1/28/2017 at 7:34 PM, Sooh said:

Vote count:

 

AJ (2): Dice, Darthe

 

Dice (1): Eldrick

 

Darthe (1): AJ

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (2): Ironeyes, Verbal

 

EOD4 in:

I don't think both scum hop on the same train right now.

 

Ugh

[Verbal32]

AJ, if we don't lynch Darthe today, who would you be willing to switch to?

[Verbal32]

Did Marsh say he wouldn't be around? I can't recall anything from him today....

[Andrej]

  On 1/28/2017 at 8:03 PM, Verbal32 said:

AJ, if we don't lynch Darthe today, who would you be willing to switch to?

I still think Nini/Dice contains a wolf. They're laying low and not doing much to progress the game.

[Andrej]

  On 1/28/2017 at 8:04 PM, Verbal32 said:

Did Marsh say he wouldn't be around? I can't recall anything from him today....

He wasn't posted since the Lenlo lynch that I can remember.

[Verbal32]

Blah

[Verbal32]

If Darthe is town, his read on Marsh is likely reasonable.

 

If Darthe is scum, his read is probably accurate in order to pocket and look like he's trying.

 

 

I might have been wrong on Marsh.

[Verbal32]

[v]Dice[/v]

[Andrej]

  On 1/28/2017 at 8:37 PM, Verbal32 said:

If Darthe is town, his read on Marsh is likely reasonable.

 

If Darthe is scum, his read is probably accurate in order to pocket and look like he's trying.

 

 

I might have been wrong on Marsh.

Agreed.

[Eldrick4221]

  On 1/28/2017 at 8:37 PM, Verbal32 said:

If Darthe is town, his read on Marsh is likely reasonable.

 

If Darthe is scum, his read is probably accurate in order to pocket and look like he's trying.

 

 

I might have been wrong on Marsh.

That's basically my reaction to it too.

[Sooh]

Vote count:

 

AJ (2): Dice, Darthe

 

Dice (2): Eldrick, Verbal

 

Darthe (1): AJ

 

Eldrick (1): Niniel

 

Not voting (1): Ironeyes,  

 

EOD4 in: