[Basic]What's the theme? - ad lib mafia

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

Me or MrsClov

 

Throw Dice on there too. That'll make him happy

Personally, I'd move him to blue on your list. I think if it was w/w he would have just left his vote as that she pinged him, and not actually questioned her a bit. Probably would have jumped on the Wildfire train when heat started picking up on Hallia as well. And some of my read on Hallia was because of how she was responding to his questions after his vote on her.

Fun fact: I bussed nearly my entire team in the game that just finished before this one. I started the wagon on them D1 and stayed put even when other wagons started to pop up and I could've reasonably moved off. In fact I was one of their main pushers throughout the progression of the phase. I wasn't lynched until F5 of a 21 players game and really only because I didn't have info that a lot of townies had to clear each other via role PMs and I had to fake claim something wild.

 

Not saying that's what Dice did here but it literally just happened. By me. Last game.

That was an impressive play, but not one that is likely to be repeated any time soon. DPR's setup was far from normal.

Although as a side note he did admit that some of the details of the setup favored town just enough that if he changed them you probably would have won...

[MrsClov]

Ooh that! I do remember seeing that. Thanks for the reminder. That was about when I started not feeling great so I wasn't really absorbing. 

[Andrej]

Oh I don't have any sour grapes Marsh :)

 

Town played a hell of a game. I was pretty much forced every single day to vote with them and lynch my teammate or out myself while progressively more and more townies got confirmed to each other. I could literally feel the noose tightening with each passing phase and we just didn't have enough NKs to go around lol. Fun game though

[Andrej]

 

i agree about darthe being a concern if hallia does end up being scum for level 1 reasons

 

Plausible scum equity for both here, but not together imo. Bop for dropping the read and Verb for the interest.

 

I remembered a bit ago that Hallia Town read Bop when he posted that long reads list, which was the first of the game I think. So maybe that's a good look for him?

 

What does this mean?

  

I can read the thread again! 

 

I think the reasons for voting both Hallia and Wifi looks good. I´ll go get some quotes.

 

Nini tied the wagons after this by voting Wifi and putting them both at 4. Hindsight bias af but sorta sketchy.

[Andrej]

Whoops. I wrote inside the quote bracket in the first bubble. I'm the first two longer portions ^^

[MrsClov]

Thoughts on Lenlo with the new information? 

[Andrej]

I'm thinking maybe he was just wrong in his read. Not cleared but not one of the people I'm most worried about right now.

 

The people who came in later to throw more weight onto the Wifi wagon after Hallia's was already established are more suspect imo

[MrsClov]

Fair point. I abandoned my notes at some point today, so I need to catch them up and evaluate. Probably not going to do it tonight though, because I'm lazy.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

Me or MrsClov

Throw Dice on there too. That'll make him happy

Personally, I'd move him to blue on your list.  I think if it was w/w he would have just left his vote as that she pinged him, and not actually questioned her a bit. Probably would have jumped on the Wildfire train when heat started picking up on Hallia as well.  And some of my read on Hallia was because of how she was responding to his questions after his vote on her.

Fun fact: I bussed nearly my entire team in the game that just finished before this one. I started the wagon on them D1 and stayed put even when other wagons started to pop up and I could've reasonably moved off. In fact I was one of their main pushers throughout the progression of the phase. I wasn't lynched until F5 of a 21 players game and really only because I didn't have info that a lot of townies had to clear each other via role PMs and I had to fake claim something wild.

 

Not saying that's what Dice did here but it literally just happened. By me. Last game.

 

 

I may have subbed in for Zander but my name is NOT Zander. He will bus the hell out of his teammate D1. You have proven that you will. I dont go that big. Id be taking on once the heat was on. Im just not that game.

 

besides itd never work. youve seen how successful i am at getting a person i want lynched lynched. that is not very.

[Andrej]

Hallia took the drop today so you're not that unsuccessful lol

 

You're right though man, I think you're good. Definitely off the table unless we start MLing a few times in a row with the other suspects

[Andrej]

I am ok with lynching Hallia based on her defense of Darthe but considering how many people are coming to Darthe's defense it makes far more sense to me to lynch him instead of risking a mislynch. That said,I will switch later if necesary.

 

[MrsClov]

How do I ISO here? 

[Andrej]

For those that don't know how.

 

Please sticky this.

 

[Lenlo]

 

You know, if I have to get lynched, so be it. I still stand by that Wifi was wolfy af in most everything she did until that watcher reveal. I was wrong sadly, but that happens when you try not to sheep everyone like I did last game.

If you're Town just keep chugging along man. We're off to a good start and one of the biggest question marks in the game is suddenly resolved.

 

I plan on rereading the thread with knowledge Hallia is a wolf once D2 starts.

 

I'm thinking maybe he was just wrong in his read. Not cleared but not one of the people I'm most worried about right now.

 

The people who came in later to throw more weight onto the Wifi wagon after Hallia's was already established are more suspect imo

I agree with the part about the late comers to the Wifi train

[MrsClov]

Thanks for the info!

[Niniel]

That was a good lynch. :)

 

Verb, I wrote what I remembered at the time. No re-teading or time for one. Will do one during the night though. Again, from what I remember, I will take a closer look on Darthe (defended by Hallia), Marsh (refused to vote Hallia) and Bopolis. I don't have Bopolis as mafia but I would have had him clear town if Wifi was mafia.

[MrsClov]

 

@Marsh - why is Hallia a villager iyo?

 

Also can you explain the read on Eldrick?

Hallia is a gut read. I don't really have anything concrete for her yet 

 

Eldrick is my first choice to vote because I think he's casting shade in a lot of directions at once. It's a scum tell that I'm pretty sensitive to, and it's worked out well for me in the past--for instance on D1 I correctly scumread Clov in Demon's Cove and Snow in Tarmon Gaidon because they were casting shade at people and trying to set up future mislynches. I'll admit that after being challenged on it, Eldrick responded well enough by not jumping immediately to an easier target, but I'm still suspicious of him. 

 

 

 

I was researching something else and found this. It might be of interest later.

[MrsClov]

Okay, hopefully this makes sense. I had a really nice spreadsheet made out, but it wasn't copying over and I didn't know if it would be okay to attach it to my post. So the idea behind this is to show who voted for who and when. I'm including joke votes, but not including unvotes. The post numbers may not be in order.  Hopefully this will be helpful. 

AJ voted for Darthe on post 107, Nolder on post 108, and Hallia on post 381.

 

I voted for Eldrick on post 117 and Hallia on post 336.

Darthe voted for Nolder on post 448.

 

Bopolis voted for Wildfire on post 550 and Hallia on post 651.

Niniel voted for Wildfire on post 587 and Nolder on post 152.

Verbal voted for Wildfire on post 645, Eldrick on post 157, and Hallia on post 657.

 

Wildfire voted for Eldrick on post 14 and Hallia on post 637.

 

Dice voted for Hallia on post 208.

 

Eldrick voted for AJ on posts 15 and 109, Darthe on posts 43 and 529. 

 

Nolder voted for Darthe on post 97 and Hallia on post 524.

 

Lenlo voted for Wildfire on post 111.

 

Ironeyes voted for me on post 29, Wildfire on post 584, and Eldrick on post 660

 

Hallia voted for  Wildfire on post 636. 

People who were never on Hallia (not including Hallia): Darthe, Niniel, Eldrick, Lenlo, and Ironeyes. 

People who had a vote on Hallia AND Wifi at some point and time on D1: Bopolis, Verbal

People who were never on Wifi: AJ, Me, Darthe, Dice, Eldrick, and Nolder,

People who never voted for either: Darthe and Eldrick

[MrsClov]

I think it's safe to say that one of Bop or Verbal is scum, based on their late votes of Hallia. I'm not sure how likely it is that they're both scum with her, that being said, they don't have much interaction with one another. 

When Bop posted his reads he listed Verbal as "Villagy but less confident". 

This is what I found of their interactions in an ISO. 

 

 

wifi,

 

why do you think hallia is a wolf, because up until that list I don't thnk you ever mentioned her except for quoting one of her posts asking 'what it means'?

 

This is a pretty good point, actually.  I don't recall seeing an answer as I caught up - did you get one?

 

 

 

 

So are you thinking it's a scum slip then, Bop?

 

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm gonna say I think it might be (subconsciously).  I've seen it happen many times before, on multiple sites.  Usually comes from newer players who don't re-read their posts before clicking the button.

 

I could switch to Wifi.

 

 

 

verbal,

 

haven't gotten a response from wifi yet about hallia

 

[Eldrick4221]

I just slept 12 hours :)

 

Good job on catching Hally. My main reason for not being on her train was I wanted a competing train. I didn't mention it cuz I didn't see it worth mentioning. I was vocal on my suss of her though, and am not surprised by the results.

[MrsClov]

I just slept 12 hours :)

 

Good job on catching Hally. My main reason for not being on her train was I wanted a competing train. I didn't mention it cuz I didn't see it worth mentioning. I was vocal on my suss of her though, and am not surprised by the results.

 

 

I'm jealous of your 12 hours of sleep. As you can tell, I don't sleep.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

So...what exactly are you scumreading me for, besides defending Darthe?

 

Why are you only aiming at the 1 person who could be the lynch instead of you...........instead of asking the others on your train?

 

 

I think I need to lynch Wifi now to clear up my thoughts on Hallia & MrsClov.  I am suss of Wifi anyway based on what bopolis noted, so.....

 

[v]Wifi[/v]

 

 

These posts seem a little contradictory to me.  in the first you seem sus on hallis actions  the second you vote wifi.

 

I really liked the first post UNTIL you dropped the second.

 

Explain please?

  

I'm a bit busy today folks, but am gonna [v] nolder [/v].  I'll be back!  Still a fan of lynching wild.

Now that I can read pg23 again, I realize my point I had about darthe doing what you are accusing Verb of doing isn't as strong. The 2 posts also talking about her are a whole 24 hours earlier on pg12. He jusy said nothing between them and the timestamps matched if not the day.

 

Regardless, he is still doing it in the one post (quoted above)

[Eldrick4221]

 

I just slept 12 hours :)

Good job on catching Hally. My main reason for not being on her train was I wanted a competing train. I didn't mention it cuz I didn't see it worth mentioning. I was vocal on my suss of her though, and am not surprised by the results.

 

 

I'm jealous of your 12 hours of sleep. As you can tell, I don't sleep.

I don't normally sleep 12 hours lol. I forgot to set an alarm cuz it's my day off.

[Eldrick4221]

I have comment about Wiffy, but I'm saving it for day.

[Eldrick4221]

FWIW it looks good that you collected that list MrsClov