Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[dicetosser1]

oh and dont think i havent noticed that the train on you z hasnt gone anywhere despite a number of people saying ure scummy or off.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Anybody else notice that there can't be a GF in this game? Which completely invalidates that whole argument about Sock trying to draw the view intentionally.

We'll how bout that.

I can't decide if I think NotBob made an honest mistake in assuming there would be one, or if he faked ignorance of the setup to throw shade. I don't know him well enough to know if he'd make a calculated move like that. 

 

 

lulz...I'm obvious to a fault...just ask anyone...lulz.

[Zander?]

Vote Manbat.

 

Could also vote Eldrick.

 

Nyce looks naughty.  So yeah.

 

 

 

 

Vote Manbat.

 

Could also vote Eldrick.

 

Nyce looks naughty. So yeah.

Hey Notbob

 

[unvote] Summoning a success!

 

Why would you vote me?

 

 

I like to vote scum.

 

unvote

 

vote Eldrick

 

 

Notbob's Sock/Monstr/Random/Zander

 

And like the only reason I see is that he said Eld was defensive.

 

Most everything else is him cheerleading to people Sock is Scum

 

His iso is very lackluster.

[Zander?]

other lynches  shad pral darthe

 

shads just not talking the way im used to. Granted i sux at reading him.

 

pral  inactive but not doing the things i expect from pral when he is here

 

darthe because he annoyed me.

 

i DO have a bit of a thought to lynch between sock nb and calder just to try and sort that argument out but that would probably get messy and i dont know that theres enuff info re nb and calder to allow us to make a decision that has a good chance of being right

 

ok noted.

 

Are both lists in order?

[Zander?]

oh and dont think i havent noticed that the train on you z hasnt gone anywhere despite a number of people saying ure scummy or off.

 

Who besides you and random think Im Scum?

 

Unless you think theres like 6-7 Scum me not picking up with only 2 votes on me isnt telling imo.

[dicetosser1]

no zander  i dont really have an order in my head

[dicetosser1]

 

oh and dont think i havent noticed that the train on you z hasnt gone anywhere despite a number of people saying ure scummy or off.

 

Who besides you and random think Im Scum?

 

Unless you think theres like 6-7 Scum me not picking up with only 2 votes on me isnt telling imo.

 

 

lets see i think both darthe and shad have commented on you that way. Cass was missing something iirc but she got happy when u amped up.

theirve been little comments like you are off  things like that. not cases or pushes

[dicetosser1]

back to work

[Zander?]

 

 

oh and dont think i havent noticed that the train on you z hasnt gone anywhere despite a number of people saying ure scummy or off.

 

Who besides you and random think Im Scum?

 

Unless you think theres like 6-7 Scum me not picking up with only 2 votes on me isnt telling imo.

 

 

lets see i think both darthe and shad have commented on you that way. Cass was missing something iirc but she got happy when u amped up.

theirve been little comments like you are off  things like that. not cases or pushes

 

 

So you even then you get alarmed if I have some suss but people arent voting me???

 

Its like people cant be undecided in your scenario.

[Eldrick4221]

 

so far with those who have answered the WTL question, notbob has been the common name

if you get very many more who want to lynch NB, odds are that he's town.

Huh?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

I would really like to see a full reads list with reasoning.

 

Youve been posting but Im not feeling it from you yet.

 

No genuine frustration or confusion, Im not seeing those really strong questions/probes/comments yet that me go WOW never thought o fit like that.

 

And its a little worrisome.

I haven't been frustrated because I'm controlling my play time better and people aren't grilling me for stupid reasons. It's quite refreshing actually.

 

Cass is fine Dice is probably fine you've looked a lot better than you did in the first 24 hours. Darthe's apathetic which is annoying but typical for his town game. NotBob's been a lot more active than his last wolf game.

 

I stand by Sooh's tone being villagery but it's a lot harder for me to read her when she's being defensive and I hope to see scum hunting in the posts I've yet to read.

 

amega and Pral don't exist.

 

Felt like Random has been misrepping things and I'm curious how Calder responded to my question irt his Eldrick/Sooh reads.

 

Need to focus on reading more talking less.

 

 

Give me your WTL today and why please.

 

 

Ditto.  anyone know the dl..or is that tomorrow?

[Shad_]

 

 

 

Eldrick has far outpaced any version of his wolf game I've ever seen

So

/shrug

Megapeek

Bad reason. I'm always a high volume poster. This is null.

 

This post was aids to me btw. My scum partners in past games have shown the same need to inform people of when a town read is based off bad reasons. They seem to think it will make them look more towny.

 

It doesnt. It makes you look like your main concern is trying to look townie. So I will be voting Eldrick for now.

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

 

 

 

Yea. I have an open mind. Mostly bc nothing you have said has looked off in any way to me. Eldrick just feels very scummy.

 

Not sure this jives with the Sooh post I just quoted a few minutes ago.

 

I'm not passing judgement on your argument itself, but hadn't Sooh just basically done the exact same thing i.e. explain to people why they were town reading her for a bad reason?

 

Did I ever get a response to this?

[Andrej]

Vote Count 1.17

 

Zander (1) - Dice

Sock (2) - Calder, Darthe

Not Bob (1) - Marsh

Calder (1) - Sock

Not voting: Pralaya, Shad, Amega, Not Bob, Zander, Cass, Random

 

7 to lynchD1 Countdown

No changes.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much. 

 

Holy Bizzaro Mafia Batman.

 

Lulz

[Shad_]

Youve got what like 2 votes on you like 8 hours before DL!?!?!?!?

 

No I dont believe that Town!Anyone really does this but to further my suss please notice the BOLD:

 

Why would you ever assume youd be alive D2?!?!?!!?

You realize if the game's going on and he's not dying he's an outed wolf, right?

 

It's not like no one has ever seen super preemptive claims from villagers before, like them or not. Wolf claims usually come as a last ditch at deadline anyway.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

Eldrick has far outpaced any version of his wolf game I've ever seen

So

/shrug

Megapeek

Bad reason. I'm always a high volume poster. This is null.

 

This post was aids to me btw. My scum partners in past games have shown the same need to inform people of when a town read is based off bad reasons. They seem to think it will make them look more towny.

 

It doesnt. It makes you look like your main concern is trying to look townie. So I will be voting Eldrick for now.

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

 

 

 

Yea. I have an open mind. Mostly bc nothing you have said has looked off in any way to me. Eldrick just feels very scummy.

 

Not sure this jives with the Sooh post I just quoted a few minutes ago.

 

I'm not passing judgement on your argument itself, but hadn't Sooh just basically done the exact same thing i.e. explain to people why they were town reading her for a bad reason?

 

Did I ever get a response to this?

 

 

Why should Zander not vote you again?

[Shad_]

 

 

 

 

 

Eldrick has far outpaced any version of his wolf game I've ever seen

So

/shrug

Megapeek

Bad reason. I'm always a high volume poster. This is null.

 

This post was aids to me btw. My scum partners in past games have shown the same need to inform people of when a town read is based off bad reasons. They seem to think it will make them look more towny.

 

It doesnt. It makes you look like your main concern is trying to look townie. So I will be voting Eldrick for now.

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

 

 

 

Yea. I have an open mind. Mostly bc nothing you have said has looked off in any way to me. Eldrick just feels very scummy.

 

Not sure this jives with the Sooh post I just quoted a few minutes ago.

 

I'm not passing judgement on your argument itself, but hadn't Sooh just basically done the exact same thing i.e. explain to people why they were town reading her for a bad reason?

 

Did I ever get a response to this?

 

 

Why should Zander not vote you again?

 

If this is your weird way of saying you don't like my post, what don't you like about it? What's your read on Calder?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

So tragic...

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eldrick has far outpaced any version of his wolf game I've ever seen

So

/shrug

Megapeek

Bad reason. I'm always a high volume poster. This is null.

 

This post was aids to me btw. My scum partners in past games have shown the same need to inform people of when a town read is based off bad reasons. They seem to think it will make them look more towny.

 

It doesnt. It makes you look like your main concern is trying to look townie. So I will be voting Eldrick for now.

 

[v]Eldrick[/v]

 

 

 

Yea. I have an open mind. Mostly bc nothing you have said has looked off in any way to me. Eldrick just feels very scummy.

 

Not sure this jives with the Sooh post I just quoted a few minutes ago.

 

I'm not passing judgement on your argument itself, but hadn't Sooh just basically done the exact same thing i.e. explain to people why they were town reading her for a bad reason?

 

Did I ever get a response to this?

 

 

Why should Zander not vote you again?

 

If this is your weird way of saying you don't like my post, what don't you like about it? What's your read on Calder?

 

 

town...what's you're read on zander?

 

how much time do we have?

[Eldrick4221]

Hey. Caught up to my first post today. Geez.

 

Ok that calder quote thing was REALLY weird. Not even going to attempt to replicate it on my phone on DM and see how it works here.

 

Sooh had mentioned that she thought he outed himself with the post, but not the content of the post.

 

When I read it, it does seem like it's from a qt board. The blockquote tag does do exactly what she says it does.

 

I've never seen it anywhere else.

 

Calder is trying to use this to mislynch us.

 

It feels to me like he was trying to say we are on a team together. Trying to tie himself to a townie, which I feel is a ridiculously stupid move, but that he should go down for it even if we do too.

 

Vote him today. Expect him to flip scum. Feel free to take us tomorrow as well. It's day 1 and we can afford a mislynch.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

oh and dont think i havent noticed that the train on you z hasnt gone anywhere despite a number of people saying ure scummy or off.

 

Who besides you and random think Im Scum?

 

Unless you think theres like 6-7 Scum me not picking up with only 2 votes on me isnt telling imo.

 

 

lets see i think both darthe and shad have commented on you that way. Cass was missing something iirc but she got happy when u amped up.

theirve been little comments like you are off  things like that. not cases or pushes

 

 

So you even then you get alarmed if I have some suss but people arent voting me???

 

Its like people cant be undecided in your scenario.

 

 

did i say that? i said i noticed it. thats all. if there are a number of people thinking ure off and a couple are voting you then if ure town why isnt there any scum on ure train trying to take advantage of that?

 

 

but you seem to be amping up to calling me scum so if so get it over with and just do it.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Why would you ever assume youd be alive D2?!?!?!!?

Because he wouldn't know who the Mafia would shoot?

 

You expect him to claim and then just accept defeat? He should play with the assumption that he lives. That only makes sense.

Dude this game has NO Doc and only the POSSIBILITY of a BG.

 

If i was Cop id assume id be dead the moment I claimed.

The chances of him dying are good, but he should still play with the assumption he somehow survives. Not doing so is giving up.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

I'm being absolutely honest, and while it's objectively early to have claimed, Marsh was the cop in the buffy game and got NK'd on the first night anyway, so I figured I'd at LEAST try to help town with information and maybe try and help guide towards a solid D1 lynch instead of getting picked off before having the opportunity to help much.

Your right. Except this time Calder isnt on the side of evil. So cop was automatically safer.

 

 

lol

 

Unfortunately I know this puts Marsh in jeopardy as well, as IC, because there's reason for scum to shoot either of us N1. But I felt like we were spinning our wheels without really getting anywhere, deadline looming not far ahead, and I'd prefer to use my role to it's maximum potential, even if that means having to claim on D1

 

 

I dont get this claiming when you didnt have to is the worst chance possible for max potential.

 

You even mention Marsh getting NK1 last game and I dont think he claimed.

 

If your Town I have a hard time thinking you thought of Marsh last game and that claiming while under min pressure and there being another train and 7 hours to go would give you the chance to MAXIMIZE your Cop potential because if youre telling the truth youd be Scum's  # 1 target.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to explain it yet again, because I asked you to answer me directly when asked questions, it's only far I live up to that myself:

 

Marsh getting NK'd N1 played a huge factor into my decision. He didn't get to use his abilities once, and we lost our cop N1 without ever reaping any benefit. I feel like you are mafia, Zander, which would tell me that if I'm not lynched D1, I"m likely going to be NK'd. It was a calculated risk, but I decided I wanted my posts and my flip to mean as much as possible if so, and give town an edge if I do survive by allowing them to dictate my reads. This even means sacrificing what I'd LIKE to do most, view you, if that's not what everyone else thinks would be most productive. 

 

I don't think it's fair to say I was under min pressure. I've acknowledged I wasn't facing a train or anything, but you and your tunneling on me no matter what I say or do feels like pressure, so I did the one thing I felt I could do at this point to get town to focus and to use my posts and / or flip when killed to help. 

 

I can accept that you don't agree with how I've handled this or with my decision to claim, but you can either accept that it's happened and use it, or you can continue to drill on me. Either way I don't care at this point, but you're really starting to seem desperate at this point. 

 

 

vote randomh3r0

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

oh and dont think i havent noticed that the train on you z hasnt gone anywhere despite a number of people saying ure scummy or off.

 

Who besides you and random think Im Scum?

 

Unless you think theres like 6-7 Scum me not picking up with only 2 votes on me isnt telling imo.

 

 

lets see i think both darthe and shad have commented on you that way. Cass was missing something iirc but she got happy when u amped up.

theirve been little comments like you are off  things like that. not cases or pushes

 

 

So you even then you get alarmed if I have some suss but people arent voting me???

 

Its like people cant be undecided in your scenario.

 

 

did i say that? i said i noticed it. thats all. if there are a number of people thinking ure off and a couple are voting you then if ure town why isnt there any scum on ure train trying to take advantage of that?

 

 

but you seem to be amping up to calling me scum so if so get it over with and just do it.

 

 

the worst part is im not sure.

 

we talked about this recently where you said you pretty much had to read me Town as Scum!Dice I said mostly but its wigging me out.

 

the thing is you dont even seem to be reconsidering or reevaluating me which is also weird.

[Zander?]

 

Youve got what like 2 votes on you like 8 hours before DL!?!?!?!?

 

No I dont believe that Town!Anyone really does this but to further my suss please notice the BOLD:

 

Why would you ever assume youd be alive D2?!?!?!!?

You realize if the game's going on and he's not dying he's an outed wolf, right?

 

It's not like no one has ever seen super preemptive claims from villagers before, like them or not. Wolf claims usually come as a last ditch at deadline anyway.

 

 

I get that hence why im not voting him, im not gonna lynch an un cc'd cop claim d1.

 

but im not also ruling out the fact it could be a Scum fake claim as well.

 

as i said it dont make sense to me as either alignment.