Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Pralaya]

 

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

Ive been really zoned in on sock, whats your case here? Tldr it please

Town BFG doesn't lock anyone as scum or town. She constantly questions herself whether her reads are correct. If you look at her read list, she has zander as town right from the beginning without any doubts and me as scum. She shuffles only the ones in between. That is not townBFG.

 

Besides, the reasons she gives out for me as scum or zander as town are very weak. Like she is forcing herself to do so. She is not being as inquisitive as I have seen her usually.

[Pralaya]

Anyway, I am going to sleep and I am not very sure if I will be up by deadline.

 

So...

 

[v]BFG[/v]

[Andrej]

Added.

[dicetosser1]

Also I disagree with "if you're aware of it you can fake it". Its been said before and its cinsistently wrong. Even amazing players, who are really self aware, dont emulate their town games perfectly. If they did we would never catch players like cory and tom.

 

you lot never do catch Tom.

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

 

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

 

 

i am NOT having a repeat of last game. thats why im not voting. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

Ive been really zoned in on sock, whats your case here? Tldr it please

Town BFG doesn't lock anyone as scum or town. She constantly questions herself whether her reads are correct. If you look at her read list, she has zander as town right from the beginning without any doubts and me as scum. She shuffles only the ones in between. That is not townBFG.

 

Besides, the reasons she gives out for me as scum or zander as town are very weak. Like she is forcing herself to do so. She is not being as inquisitive as I have seen her usually.

 

 

wrong. She does it to me so much she is the bane of my scum life on this site. She definetly works upto it but once shes gone over you in depth she will lock you in.

 

of course in my case im not locked in for LONG cause she gets me lynched

[Zander?]

 

That you won't give reasons for why or why not people make sense to be scum with your scum read of bfg isn't very towny.

 

If you were town, you should be thinking about that. That you don't have an answer says to me you aren't trying to figure it out.

Just because i have not tried to figure so far doesn't mean I will not try when the time comes. Now, if I make a read, it will always be an associated read with BFG. That's why my vote is not going to be anything else from that

 

When I have more time and when the situation demands, I will look at it. And when I do, I will be open about it

 

 

What happened to no lynch???

[Zander?]

 

I think my biggest mistake this game was town reading Darthe because of him consistently going after sock and basically noone else, and for his response to my hypothetical post.

 

The first reason is null and a bad reason to Town read someone.

 

When Darthe took my words out of context the second time, it made me realize the first one wasn't towny.

 

With that in mind, I haven't thought Darthe was town all game before these happened. He was null or lower. He convinced me he was town, and I'm realizing that was a bad read.

 

I think Darthe is scum.

 

I've spent most of the game thinking dice is town. I've had to reconsider when the poe shrunk and I thought I might be wrong. I looked for connections for him to make sense as scum, with varying success. He was in my poe so I compared him with every one that was possible scum to me (Pral and bfg). Neither made enough sense. The reason for town anger makes a lot more sense than scum anger. I was just blinded by my tunnel.

 

I think dice is town.

 

As I said before, BFG has been spending a lot of energy pointing out how dice is town. How his list doesn't make sense to put both his teammates as early town reads. Bfg doesn't make sense to be scum if dice is town.

 

I think bfg is town

 

Zander is the towniest player in the game. Will not be voting there.

 

I think Zander is town

 

CONCLUSION:

 

SCUM IS DARTHE AND PRAL

Look, theres the flip flop! Holy hell man, you went from laya js a wolf with cass, idc who I vote to laya is town, to me questioning it so now we are both wolves?

 

Am I stupid? I cant be the only one who sees this and thinks it's never coming from a townie. Hell, he even bolded for effect to give some urgency.

 

 

I dont think a Wolf is gonna flip flop like this imo.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

Wolf me would want to create a thread environment that made it impossible to vote me, to harass and belittle anyone who read me wolf until everyone was afraid to place their votes. I've simply not done that this game.

 

I could give a ton of self meta, but that's pointless. Just think about the above. You guys have played with me so much, how do you not know by now? I'm not a wolf. I'm just not doing the dog wolf me does.

This is a joke Darthe, no one is scared of you,

Some definitely are, but that isn't my point. I'm just explaining how wolf me would want to shape the thread.

Your self Meta talk is like psychiatrist talk imo.....

You see what you want to see. Figure it out Z, im not game to lose this because you wanna be rigid.

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

Aren't you playing similar w.r.t sock?

Maybe, but the difference is im gonna be right.

Just like you claimed in PoTC you were right about me!?!?!

 

Cause youre doing the same thing here irt Sock imo.

Oh look a past game, I'm sure that will man something to me.

 

Different games make different situations and it is balony to try and invalidate my read based on "well youve been wrong before". Ironic given yesterday.

My point is i was wrong on Cass right on Shad what are you at thus far?

 

Thats my point.

 

Just because I was wrong on Cass dont mean im wrong on my other reads man.

It doesnt make me wrong that ive not caught a wolf yet either. How often am I this adamantly set on a read, and that read never take off? Its not happened in my memory (faulty though that may be). Theres a reason for that, and it isnt just your opposition. Eldrick is being carried and that needs to crack.

 

 

Well me in PoTC comes to mind, um seph in a couple straight games when he came back, I wanna say Mafia Karts was one but i may be wrong....

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Vote Count 4.01

 

Not voting: Everyone

 

Votes are locked as the game is in MyLo.

Dont forget this!!!!!

 

I dont think ive ever played a game with locked votes.

Oh, you didn't play in the game where Darthe was scum and me and sooh were in lylo with locked votes and we lost?

 

You know, maybe you should read it. To see how scum darthe plays

Yeah, that would be relevant. Zanders a reader anyhow. Which game is it?

 

 

No i didnt

[Zander?]

Anyway, I am going to sleep and I am not very sure if I will be up by deadline.

 

So...

 

[v]BFG[/v]

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

right im going to be voting pral

It's interesting that three of us have these sorts of definite posts but we arent voting yet. I get lock voting, but its like whoever votes first is vulnerable and nobody left wants to be vulnerable.

All I am waiting for us if we are deciding no lynch. Else I will vote BFG in an instant

 

 

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[BFG]

Ugh, in the last hour I've managed to load 6 pages of Sooh's ISO and have to stop, so this is that and general impressions since

 

The interactions she has with Eldrick early on don't feel staged, they took a while to settle in as a hydra and it feels 'honest' (I remember posts from Eldrick where he was clearly chafing at points with having to watch his vote). I think mafia!Sooh would be more careful with how they were perceived early (but my mafia!Sooh playing clean may be out-dated ) Regardless, I think their early interactions look good

 

Her early ISOs are agenda free, she wasn't looking to get someone lynched but seemed to be evaluating and assessing

 

Shad didn't care if they got lynched, despite town reading them. Possible coif bias, but I think mafia!Shad cares if they were teammates

 

But overall she's just a long ways outside the mafia range I have for her

 

 

I won't have time to look at Eldrick, I know that people have been pointing out his contradictions and changes in direction, but I don't think this is scummy for him. He's been driving the game as much as Zander and I struggle to see that from mafia!him

 

I just don't see them as mafia

[BFG]

Dice, what are your reads?

[Zander?]

Dice, what are your reads?

 

What do you think of Pral currently locked in and voting you BFG?

[BFG]

I think he's mafia looking for the last mislynch

[BFG]

In the dead thread of Buffy he talked a lot about how voting no lynch was the correct move

 

I don't believe he thinks that I'm incapable of having strong reads, and he ignored where I pointed to Buffy and the fact that I barely questioned Random from early Day 1, or the PerC game where I locked Alette in as town start Day 2 (also Dice <3)

 

I think that town Pral is more precise with his explanations and reads, but

 

He says I've had him as mafia from when I subbed in, but he was actually a weak town read when I subbed in

[BFG]

I don't think town! Pral is so confident I'm mafia and not look for my teammate

 

But mostly I think you, Sooh, Dice are town

[Zander?]

I think he's mafia looking for the last mislynch

 

Then why arent you voting him?

[BFG]

Because we need to vote together

[BFG]

I'm willing to vote Pral/Darthe ldo

[Sooh]

Did anyone vote yet?

 

Also sorry for not being here. Had a rough couple of days.

[Zander?]

Did anyone vote yet?

 

Also sorry for not being here. Had a rough couple of days.

 

Hope everything is ok <3 <3 <3

 

Pral has voted BFG and thats it.

[Zander?]

Interesting BFG hasant been hammered yet imo

[Sooh]

 

Did anyone vote yet?

 

Also sorry for not being here. Had a rough couple of days.

 

Hope everything is ok <3 <3 <3

 

Pral has voted BFG and thats it.

 

Pral with a first vote IS interesting. 

 

It's rare for mafia to vote first in these instances, but it's not a straight up LYLO, but rather MYLO, so scum strategies may vary some. 

 

What did you all decide on when it comes to No lynch?

 

Claiming if there's a final PR?

[Eldrick4221]

Anyone else notice that everything Darthe said today doesn't lead to solving. It's just talking to be active.

[Eldrick4221]

I poked at him and bfg being quiet. Now poof he's not.