Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[dicetosser1]

i can vote if we are wanting to

[Zander?]

i can vote if we are wanting to

 

do it imo

 

random can control the na time anyways and we have 24 hours to confirm and go from there.

[dicetosser1]

vote shad

[Darthe]

Cass really doesnt look bad to me, and I dont even mean that in a twtbaw sorta way.

 

I justhavent seen her try to manipulate anything on thread and I dont think shes played wolf enough to avoid that temptation. The cop thing bugs me a bit irt that bit I expect townies to be unreasonable every once and a while.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 2.05

 

Shad (5) - Zander, Random, Darthe, Marsh, Dice

 

Not voting: Pralaya, Sock, Amega, Shad, Cass

 

6 to lynch

[Cass]

 

 

We have an IC and an uncc'd cop.

 

The chance mafia would shoot someone else is ~0%

 

Calder dying means he protected.

 

Unless shad flips town, which means random is scum, and scum knows there isn't a Cop. Likelihood of no additional roles in this situation is high. Could have shot Marsh and calder protected. Could have shot calder directly.

 

Again. Shad flip resolves this.

 

This post is basically my thought process, but I had more holes. Brain just doesn't work on the level of italics. My focus was on bold.

 

If Shad is Town I don't want to lose him.

 

Lunching with hubby, back after.

My thought process there is the less choices mafia picked, the safer the fake claim. They directly controlled how many PRs town has. If they chose nothing and made it only 2 PRs, they know only one is left.

 

If they know there is only 1 pr left after the IC, the chance there is a Cop in the game is 1 in 5. Random fake claiming makes a degree of sense there.

 

Notbob doubting his claim makes sense.

 

Shad flip reveals what's going on. Am not voting outside of there. I get you not losing shad if he's town. Don't want to lose any townies. But thinking we should vote elsewhere doesn't make sense either.

 

Unless you are suggesting that we lynch random...

 

 

Explain the Notbob?

 

I'm not suggesting anything until I'm caught up/confident more one way than the other.

 

Right now I have two possible worlds:

Zander and Random are Scum. Shad is Scum. 

 

 

Can we just hammer

 

 

 

Not seeing the connection between shad and Pral. Zander, can you explain?

 

Pral likes to bus

 

Pral calls Shad Scum out of the gate.

 

The progression I laid out just reads awkwardly to me.

 

Im gonna ISO Shad once we get the flip and see if theres more to it or not.

 

 

Counter argument: 

 

Zander likes to bus.

 

Zander and Random go hammer and tongs out the gate.

 

Shad is incredi-Town when he's Town, and reads Zander like a book.

 

If Shad is Town, he is a threat but not confirmed. Confirmed player/s take precedence for NK. Other threats get targeted for a lynch.

 

 

 

 

Um actually inclined to town read Cass after that mix up. Seemed to me like confused town more than conniving scum

 

Maybe but not so sure

 

 

Thought process please Z? In as many words and with as many quotes as you can muster?

 

 

i can vote if we are wanting to

 

do it imo

 

random can control the na time anyways and we have 24 hours to confirm and go from there.

 

 

Why are you so trusting of Random actually being the cop?

[Cass]

Cass really doesnt look bad to me, and I dont even mean that in a twtbaw sorta way.

 

I justhavent seen her try to manipulate anything on thread and I dont think shes played wolf enough to avoid that temptation. The cop thing bugs me a bit irt that bit I expect townies to be unreasonable every once and a while.

 

Bold?

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

We have an IC and an uncc'd cop.

 

The chance mafia would shoot someone else is ~0%

 

Calder dying means he protected.

 

Unless shad flips town, which means random is scum, and scum knows there isn't a Cop. Likelihood of no additional roles in this situation is high. Could have shot Marsh and calder protected. Could have shot calder directly.

 

Again. Shad flip resolves this.

 

This post is basically my thought process, but I had more holes. Brain just doesn't work on the level of italics. My focus was on bold.

 

If Shad is Town I don't want to lose him.

 

Lunching with hubby, back after.

My thought process there is the less choices mafia picked, the safer the fake claim. They directly controlled how many PRs town has. If they chose nothing and made it only 2 PRs, they know only one is left.

 

If they know there is only 1 pr left after the IC, the chance there is a Cop in the game is 1 in 5. Random fake claiming makes a degree of sense there.

 

Notbob doubting his claim makes sense.

 

Shad flip reveals what's going on. Am not voting outside of there. I get you not losing shad if he's town. Don't want to lose any townies. But thinking we should vote elsewhere doesn't make sense either.

 

Unless you are suggesting that we lynch random...

 

 

Explain the Notbob?

 

I'm not suggesting anything until I'm caught up/confident more one way than the other.

 

Right now I have two possible worlds:

Zander and Random are Scum. Shad is Scum. 

 

 

Can we just hammer

 

 

 

Not seeing the connection between shad and Pral. Zander, can you explain?

 

Pral likes to bus

 

Pral calls Shad Scum out of the gate.

 

The progression I laid out just reads awkwardly to me.

 

Im gonna ISO Shad once we get the flip and see if theres more to it or not.

 

 

Counter argument: 

 

Zander likes to bus.

 

Zander and Random go hammer and tongs out the gate.

 

Shad is incredi-Town when he's Town, and reads Zander like a book.

 

If Shad is Town, he is a threat but not confirmed. Confirmed player/s take precedence for NK. Other threats get targeted for a lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

if shad was town he would have fought harder imo. He absolutely lost his mind when i role copped him in a darthe game n1 but in that game hed been a lot more active. If he was town i think he wouldve lost his mind again

[Cass]

 

 

 

Ok. I need to rock in the corner with my tinfoil a while.

 

I essentially don't trust Zander/Random here, and I'm not sure if that's more because I'm crazy or because they're wolfy af.

 

I'd really appreciate some time to figure out which it is.

Lol... I'm being wolf after outting Shad as scum and trying to lynch, knowing full well I'm dying N2?

 

You're joking right?

I wish. Right now my head is lining up a real possibility that you could be scum.

 

I'm 100% Town.

 

Wanna make me less suspicious of you?

 

Remove your vote from Shad. Give me time to figure things out.

No. I don't need to impress or convince you. When the lynch happens you'll see, and I won't survive N2. So, You can work with us and convince the rest of town you're not scum, or you can wait until the flip in two days and be no closer to knowing additional info with the added bonus of FOSing the only person to deliver you a wolf on a silver platter.

I won't be removing my vote no matter what, so you have zero need to convince me, but you might want to help those who will live to see D3

 

 

If you're Town the bold should be your focus too.

 

I'm not doing anything to try and convince you of anything, I'm giving you my thoughts and asking that we don't rush.

 

What's the harm in unvoting?

[Cass]

 

 

 

 

We have an IC and an uncc'd cop.

 

The chance mafia would shoot someone else is ~0%

 

Calder dying means he protected.

 

Unless shad flips town, which means random is scum, and scum knows there isn't a Cop. Likelihood of no additional roles in this situation is high. Could have shot Marsh and calder protected. Could have shot calder directly.

 

Again. Shad flip resolves this.

 

This post is basically my thought process, but I had more holes. Brain just doesn't work on the level of italics. My focus was on bold.

 

If Shad is Town I don't want to lose him.

 

Lunching with hubby, back after.

My thought process there is the less choices mafia picked, the safer the fake claim. They directly controlled how many PRs town has. If they chose nothing and made it only 2 PRs, they know only one is left.

 

If they know there is only 1 pr left after the IC, the chance there is a Cop in the game is 1 in 5. Random fake claiming makes a degree of sense there.

 

Notbob doubting his claim makes sense.

 

Shad flip reveals what's going on. Am not voting outside of there. I get you not losing shad if he's town. Don't want to lose any townies. But thinking we should vote elsewhere doesn't make sense either.

 

Unless you are suggesting that we lynch random...

 

 

Explain the Notbob?

 

I'm not suggesting anything until I'm caught up/confident more one way than the other.

 

Right now I have two possible worlds:

Zander and Random are Scum. Shad is Scum. 

 

 

Can we just hammer

 

 

 

Not seeing the connection between shad and Pral. Zander, can you explain?

 

Pral likes to bus

 

Pral calls Shad Scum out of the gate.

 

The progression I laid out just reads awkwardly to me.

 

Im gonna ISO Shad once we get the flip and see if theres more to it or not.

 

 

Counter argument: 

 

Zander likes to bus.

 

Zander and Random go hammer and tongs out the gate.

 

Shad is incredi-Town when he's Town, and reads Zander like a book.

 

If Shad is Town, he is a threat but not confirmed. Confirmed player/s take precedence for NK. Other threats get targeted for a lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

if shad was town he would have fought harder imo. He absolutely lost his mind when i role copped him in a darthe game n1 but in that game hed been a lot more active. If he was town i think he wouldve lost his mind again

 

 

Agree with the bold

[randomh3r0]

I've already said there's no real harm, I just feel like town will be more productive when we can find out exactly what role Shad flips; i.e. Traitor, goon, etc

[Cass]

I've already said there's no real harm, I just feel like town will be more productive when we can find out exactly what role Shad flips; i.e. Traitor, goon, etc

 

Have you put consideration into what would be the difference in either scenario?

 

If not, why not/can you?

 

If so, what conclusions do you have?

[randomh3r0]

 

I've already said there's no real harm, I just feel like town will be more productive when we can find out exactly what role Shad flips; i.e. Traitor, goon, etc

Have you put consideration into what would be the difference in either scenario?

 

If not, why not/can you?

 

If so, what conclusions do you have?

Shad is going to flip scum when he's lynched. If he's a goon or whatever other role that would definitely be part of the core mafia team, he's got an active partner somewhere in the game. This flip would make me look for bussing D2 and distance from him D1.

 

If he's the traitor, he may not have been recruited, and so the links would be different. There'd be no one who knew his alignment. This would mean there's a 2-person scum team who has been unchanged by the lynch.

 

There's a lot of possibilities once we know.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

We have an IC and an uncc'd cop.

 

The chance mafia would shoot someone else is ~0%

 

Calder dying means he protected.

 

Unless shad flips town, which means random is scum, and scum knows there isn't a Cop. Likelihood of no additional roles in this situation is high. Could have shot Marsh and calder protected. Could have shot calder directly.

 

Again. Shad flip resolves this.

 

This post is basically my thought process, but I had more holes. Brain just doesn't work on the level of italics. My focus was on bold.

 

If Shad is Town I don't want to lose him.

 

Lunching with hubby, back after.

My thought process there is the less choices mafia picked, the safer the fake claim. They directly controlled how many PRs town has. If they chose nothing and made it only 2 PRs, they know only one is left.

 

If they know there is only 1 pr left after the IC, the chance there is a Cop in the game is 1 in 5. Random fake claiming makes a degree of sense there.

 

Notbob doubting his claim makes sense.

 

Shad flip reveals what's going on. Am not voting outside of there. I get you not losing shad if he's town. Don't want to lose any townies. But thinking we should vote elsewhere doesn't make sense either.

 

Unless you are suggesting that we lynch random...

 

 

Explain the Notbob?

 

I'm not suggesting anything until I'm caught up/confident more one way than the other.

 

Right now I have two possible worlds:

Zander and Random are Scum. Shad is Scum. 

 

 

Can we just hammer

 

 

 

Not seeing the connection between shad and Pral. Zander, can you explain?

 

Pral likes to bus

 

Pral calls Shad Scum out of the gate.

 

The progression I laid out just reads awkwardly to me.

 

Im gonna ISO Shad once we get the flip and see if theres more to it or not.

 

 

Counter argument: 

 

Zander likes to bus.

 

Zander and Random go hammer and tongs out the gate.

 

Shad is incredi-Town when he's Town, and reads Zander like a book.

 

If Shad is Town, he is a threat but not confirmed. Confirmed player/s take precedence for NK. Other threats get targeted for a lynch.

 

 

 

 

Um actually inclined to town read Cass after that mix up. Seemed to me like confused town more than conniving scum

 

Maybe but not so sure

 

 

Thought process please Z? In as many words and with as many quotes as you can muster?

 

 

i can vote if we are wanting to

 

do it imo

 

random can control the na time anyways and we have 24 hours to confirm and go from there.

 

 

Why are you so trusting of Random actually being the cop?

 

 

What is the point of the question in bold???

 

He said he thinks it was a towny move i said maybe but not sure.

 

IM not sure how else to explain that.

 

Its a maybe

 

What quotes do you want me to pull???

 

I respond to his statement.

 

And why do I trust Random?

 

Because if he's Scum he's gonna claim a Town peek on someone not Scum because then he's outted completely imo.

 

Also Calder is dead, was BG and totally believed Randoms claim.

 

This seems like youre just asking questions for the sake of asking questions...

 

sadface.gif

[Cass]

@Random

 

Have you got a current reads list?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

We have an IC and an uncc'd cop.

 

The chance mafia would shoot someone else is ~0%

 

Calder dying means he protected.

 

Unless shad flips town, which means random is scum, and scum knows there isn't a Cop. Likelihood of no additional roles in this situation is high. Could have shot Marsh and calder protected. Could have shot calder directly.

 

Again. Shad flip resolves this.

 

This post is basically my thought process, but I had more holes. Brain just doesn't work on the level of italics. My focus was on bold.

 

If Shad is Town I don't want to lose him.

 

Lunching with hubby, back after.

My thought process there is the less choices mafia picked, the safer the fake claim. They directly controlled how many PRs town has. If they chose nothing and made it only 2 PRs, they know only one is left.

 

If they know there is only 1 pr left after the IC, the chance there is a Cop in the game is 1 in 5. Random fake claiming makes a degree of sense there.

 

Notbob doubting his claim makes sense.

 

Shad flip reveals what's going on. Am not voting outside of there. I get you not losing shad if he's town. Don't want to lose any townies. But thinking we should vote elsewhere doesn't make sense either.

 

Unless you are suggesting that we lynch random...

 

 

Explain the Notbob?

 

I'm not suggesting anything until I'm caught up/confident more one way than the other.

 

Right now I have two possible worlds:

Zander and Random are Scum. Shad is Scum. 

 

 

Can we just hammer

 

 

 

Not seeing the connection between shad and Pral. Zander, can you explain?

 

Pral likes to bus

 

Pral calls Shad Scum out of the gate.

 

The progression I laid out just reads awkwardly to me.

 

Im gonna ISO Shad once we get the flip and see if theres more to it or not.

 

 

Counter argument: 

 

Zander likes to bus.

 

Zander and Random go hammer and tongs out the gate.

 

Shad is incredi-Town when he's Town, and reads Zander like a book.

 

If Shad is Town, he is a threat but not confirmed. Confirmed player/s take precedence for NK. Other threats get targeted for a lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

if shad was town he would have fought harder imo. He absolutely lost his mind when i role copped him in a darthe game n1 but in that game hed been a lot more active. If he was town i think he wouldve lost his mind again

 

 

Agree with the bold

 

 

Then why did you just ask me why I agree with Random and why are you sussing him!!?!?!?

 

This makes no sense to me!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zander?]

Hey there Pral, would love to hear you chime in please!!!!

[randomh3r0]

@Random

 

Have you got a current reads list?

Not really. I want to base my reads on facts that await the lynch. However,

 

The timing of Pral's input was very suspect to me.

 

I feel darthe, Sock and Zander are town, but I could see any one of th fooling me (yet I can't believe more than one would be scum if any)

 

For all your strange posts case, I don't believe you're scum, but this is a lean more than a read.

 

Marsh is IC, and safe. If you're town, you need him D3 when I'm gone.

 

I don't feel strongly about anyone else, which could change once we see shads role.

 

That's the best I've got at the moment

[Cass]

What is the point of the question in bold???

 

He said he thinks it was a towny move i said maybe but not sure.

 

IM not sure how else to explain that.

 

Its a maybe

 

What quotes do you want me to pull???

 

I respond to his statement.

 

And why do I trust Random?

 

Because if he's Scum he's gonna claim a Town peek on someone not Scum because then he's outted completely imo.

 

Also Calder is dead, was BG and totally believed Randoms claim.

 

This seems like youre just asking questions for the sake of asking questions...

 

sadface.gif

 

 

The point is to get us talking so I can figure you out, and if you're Town you can figure me.

 

Probably would have been worded better as

 

"Why aren't you sure?" / What of mine pings to you?

 

The as many words/quotes as possible is because then there's specific stuff to hash out.

 

 

Explain the underlined?

 

I can see logic in it being a safer move to claim a Town peek than a scum peek.

 

Tinfoiling that the underlining is TMI if Shad flips Town.

[Zander?]

 

What is the point of the question in bold???

 

He said he thinks it was a towny move i said maybe but not sure.

 

IM not sure how else to explain that.

 

Its a maybe

 

What quotes do you want me to pull???

 

I respond to his statement.

 

And why do I trust Random?

 

Because if he's Scum he's gonna claim a Town peek on someone not Scum because then he's outted completely imo.

 

Also Calder is dead, was BG and totally believed Randoms claim.

 

This seems like youre just asking questions for the sake of asking questions...

 

sadface.gif

 

 

The point is to get us talking so I can figure you out, and if you're Town you can figure me.

 

Probably would have been worded better as

 

"Why aren't you sure?" / What of mine pings to you?

 

The as many words/quotes as possible is because then there's specific stuff to hash out.

 

 

Explain the underlined?

 

I can see logic in it being a safer move to claim a Town peek than a scum peek.

 

Tinfoiling that the underlining is TMI if Shad flips Town.

 

 

are you trying to shade me?!?!?!

 

i said he be more likely to peek a townie, 

 

i responding to YOUR Random is Scum scenario.

[randomh3r0]

I think Zander believes me because it was his driving me crazy that got me to claim in the first place :)

[Zander?]

I think Zander believes me because it was his driving me crazy that got me to claim in the first place :)

 

I believe you because everything thats happened since you claimed makes much more sense as you being the Cop.

 

If youre Scum faking peeking Scum on a Townie would be stupid atp imo.

[randomh3r0]

 

I think Zander believes me because it was his driving me crazy that got me to claim in the first place :)

I believe you because everything thats happened since you claimed makes much more sense as you being the Cop.

 

If youre Scum faking peeking Scum on a Townie would be stupid atp imo.

That was me joking.

[Cass]

@ Zander

 

On the one side:

 

Partway through Shad ISO. Thoughts and stuff. 

 

 

On the other side:

 

If Random really is the cop and has a scum check on Shad AND thinks he's going to be NK'd.

Why isn't he/hasn't he focused on looking for partners?

[Zander?]

 

 

I think Zander believes me because it was his driving me crazy that got me to claim in the first place :)

I believe you because everything thats happened since you claimed makes much more sense as you being the Cop.

 

If youre Scum faking peeking Scum on a Townie would be stupid atp imo.

That was me joking.

 

 

That was me pretending i had any responsibility in you doing so...

 

sadface.gif

 

lololololol