Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Shad_]

I protected Marsh (Ironeyes) last night.

 

answer my question about Darthe yesterday that I quoted like three times plz

[Shad_]

Ima roll with it [v] kat [/v]

 

Thoughts on her exchange with me in QT?

[Shad_]

Seems reasonable with the NAs. I was just tinfoiling on her earlier in the QT, and tink, but now it's hard to imagine she isnt doc.

Where are you at on the last two wolves then?

[Darthe]

I can tell you who I don't think they are?

[Shad_]

DICE SENT US A GIFT N1

 

WASNT THAT A X1 ABILITY?

 

If so he could/would have to have chosen a different ability N2 if he used one.

 

And tbqh I can imagine Dice not thinking he was in danger last night.  I didnt catch any PR breadcrumbs from him and i was looking.

You mean like "I asked BFG if I could use my PR on players in a different QT and she said no?"

[Darthe]

Here is a list of living players, stole it from the last VC

 

Zass, Darthe, Tiinker, Hallia, Ironeyes, Kat, Pral, Shad_, WiFi

 

I very much don't think Marsh or Shad are wolves.

 

I very much doubt that Hally or Zass are.

 

I wanna go on Kat because ya'll are prob on point with her.

 

That leaves Wifi, Tiink, and Laya.  

 

Has Laya been around?  I've not touched on him at all.

[Shad_]

I can tell you who I don't think they are?

 

That's a start.

 

You have to work with me here mate if you're a villager.

 

You've said a lot in your defense that has good tone and is generally reasonable, but not much of it involves actually attempting to catch scum.

 

You've thrown out comments here and there about things you don't like, and you eventually put up a reads list, but I haven't seen you really prod people to discern their alignment.  At least not in a way that I interpret as that, besides your reaction test wtl on Dice.

 

When a game starts to reach a point where you can make a decent case for anyone being a villager, I have to read a bit deeper than that, and a big thing to look for is who appears to be honestly attempting to solve.  You've been open about going with the flow and not being super-invested and that's better than trying to pretend you're doing more work than you are, but it has to come under scrutiny when the scummy people are all dead and the game hasn't ended.

[Shad_]

Here is a list of living players, stole it from the last VC

 

Zass, Darthe, Tiinker, Hallia, Ironeyes, Kat, Pral, Shad_, WiFi

 

I very much don't think Marsh or Shad are wolves.

 

I very much doubt that Hally or Zass are.

 

I wanna go on Kat because ya'll are prob on point with her.

 

That leaves Wifi, Tiink, and Laya.  

 

Has Laya been around?  I've not touched on him at all.

 

Pral had a few comments irt wanting to lynch Kat in QT.  Don't remember much else off the top of my head.  Having recently coached Wifi to a wolf victory, what are your thoughts on her gameplay here?  You had described your QT suspicions on Tiink as tinfoil a bit ago.  Did something change to shift your opinion around a bit?

[Shad_]

Hallia thinks Kat is Town iirc.

Would like to hear her thoughts on this.

[Shad_]

OMG MAN SERIOUSLY

 

WAS DICE TOWN???

 

NO HE WAS 3RD PARTY

 

IS 3RD PARTY TOWN??

 

NO THEN NO TOWNIES HAVE DIED ON HALLIAGOAT's WATCH.

 

What does Halli protecting Iron have to do with Dice being a Survivor?

 

Looks to me like we just got lucky in so far their night target happened to not count toward parity.

 

I legit don't see the connection you're trying to make here.

[Shad_]

So you and Cass have a 1x BPV? Or did you get a 1x vig which you shot Dice or what?

 

If you didn't shoot Dice then all this is telling me is that there's a scum in the Stedding QT and that the only reason that myself, you/Cass, and Shad aren't dead atm is because one of our top town reads are wrong. Legitimately no reason to kill Dice over us imo because we've been louder and more capable of directing a train.

Not disagreeing with this but can you tell me how the Dice kill leads to it?

[Shad_]

[unvote]

 

[v]Kat[/v]

 

Raisins?

[Shad_]

Right so you're joking and this doesn't have anything to do with this game in particular. Got you. In any case I just skimmed Dice's posts and nothing stands out as him targeting anyone except for a weird vote on Pral so I think that it's likely that one of the consensus town reads is just wrong. This hilariously gives Darthe some equity imo because of what he said in the QT and I don't think Pral would want to kill Dice after bringing up the fact that Dice's vote on him was weird as he did in the QT.

 

My ability to forget things I've read 30 seconds ago is amazing.

 

But can you point to what specifically you were thinking about here?

[Ironeyes]

 

I asked the mod. My thought process is: If Dice's ability was passive, then he was killed by town/3p last night. Then Hallia gets town spewed by that because it means I was most likely the target of the mafia shot and she protected me. I suppose that town spews me as well but that's less important.

If it was passive then yes.

Got my answer. It was 1x, so we can aaaume that the mafia killed Dice

[Shad_]

What was the general consensus in your QT?

 

Most importantly how was Kat?

Quoting to remember to get to this when I'm caught up.

 

I was also supposed to look up something about Wifi D2 and forgot.     Need to remember to go back and find that.

[Ironeyes]

 

Of course I just realized....I have to trust zanders word on this....anyone other than zass and hallia can corroborate on that???

Marsh can.

I'm being asked to corroborate what Believer said about Kat and Darthe? Yes, what Zander put up was word for word

[Ironeyes]

Ask a mod

 

Is it past your bedtime?

 

Why, yes :P

 

 

sorry I'm grumpy

 

Love you too BFG!

 

Yes I'm doing a Zander style catch up. On mobile.

[Shad_]

I am thinking that Hallia/zander are scum....I think this is his first scum game and he doesn't know what to do so he is getting louder and more tunneling....which he does as his town game but is going to an extreme... just a thought to put out there....for discussion..... I you zander but you are really scaring me....sorry...

 

He's been scum plenty before and I doubt w/w here, but I totally get why you would think this.

 

I keep tinfoiling on Wifi but I keep coming back up town.

[Shad_]

No one has claimed pulling Kat to Tel, correct?

 

Anyone there last night say they'd chosen Stedding?

[Ironeyes]

 

Here is a list of living players, stole it from the last VC

 

Zass, Darthe, Tiinker, Hallia, Ironeyes, Kat, Pral, Shad_, WiFi

 

I very much don't think Marsh or Shad are wolves.

 

I very much doubt that Hally or Zass are.

 

I wanna go on Kat because ya'll are prob on point with her.

 

That leaves Wifi, Tiink, and Laya.

 

Has Laya been around? I've not touched on him at all.

Pral had a few comments irt wanting to lynch Kat in QT. Don't remember much else off the top of my head. Having recently coached Wifi to a wolf victory, what are your thoughts on her gameplay here? You had described your QT suspicions on Tiink as tinfoil a bit ago. Did something change to shift your opinion around a bit?

I'm really curious to hear the answer to this question about Wifi.

[Darthe]

Honestly I dont have much confidence in my reads.  This game is tight enough that I think your head has to be really in it to make any choice without backing off of it at a moments notice.  Iget that you want solid reads and commitment but you're going to have to accept that my reads just aren't in a place to have that sort of weight behind them.  

 

In any case, wifi I really thought I had a good read on but she tilts the hell out of me with her constant nonsense so I am saying here that I don't think it's beyond her to do this as wolf and that one bit so long ago where she mentioned a role she shouldnt know was really condemning.  

[Hallia]

Gosh darn it I'm tinfoiling on Darthe

[Hallia]

Shad what question, I've been on mobile all day ><

[Zander?]

I want to badger you about using a fake example still because it was super annoying, but I'll ignore that to point out that you're still talking about a really unlikely play of events and that there's actual stuff to sus people over on the 107 page thread, we don't need to make up more to fit a narrative.

 

I was simply explaining something to claimed to not understand,

 

 

Ima roll with it [v] kat [/v]

 

Thoughts on her exchange with me in QT?

 

 

Id like thoughts on her from everyone in the QT.

 

 

DICE SENT US A GIFT N1

 

WASNT THAT A X1 ABILITY?

 

If so he could/would have to have chosen a different ability N2 if he used one.

 

And tbqh I can imagine Dice not thinking he was in danger last night.  I didnt catch any PR breadcrumbs from him and i was looking.

You mean like "I asked BFG if I could use my PR on players in a different QT and she said no?"

 

 

lolme

 

Ya my bad.

 

 

I can tell you who I don't think they are?

 

That's a start.

 

You have to work with me here mate if you're a villager.

 

You've said a lot in your defense that has good tone and is generally reasonable, but not much of it involves actually attempting to catch scum.

 

You've thrown out comments here and there about things you don't like, and you eventually put up a reads list, but I haven't seen you really prod people to discern their alignment.  At least not in a way that I interpret as that, besides your reaction test wtl on Dice.

 

When a game starts to reach a point where you can make a decent case for anyone being a villager, I have to read a bit deeper than that, and a big thing to look for is who appears to be honestly attempting to solve.  You've been open about going with the flow and not being super-invested and that's better than trying to pretend you're doing more work than you are, but it has to come under scrutiny when the scummy people are all dead and the game hasn't ended.

 

 

I was waiting for this talk to Darthe from you after you said he wouldnt respond to me looking into him during our N1 in the Stedding.

[Zander?]

 

OMG MAN SERIOUSLY

 

WAS DICE TOWN???

 

NO HE WAS 3RD PARTY

 

IS 3RD PARTY TOWN??

 

NO THEN NO TOWNIES HAVE DIED ON HALLIAGOAT's WATCH.

 

What does Halli protecting Iron have to do with Dice being a Survivor?

 

Looks to me like we just got lucky in so far their night target happened to not count toward parity.

 

I legit don't see the connection you're trying to make here.

 

 

I was just joking around about HalliaGOATDOC cause shes Doc.