[Role Madness] Overwatch Mafia - Game Over

[Zander?]

Lol Zander. Are you being intentionally cryptic or do you actually have reasoning behind being that erratic. ISO'ing you is a nightmare. Make a long post and consolidate some thoughts for us instead of just assuming we're following your every word. 

 

Who knows these things??!?!!?!?!?

[Cory Caboose]

It's funny because when Bastion goes into turret mode in the game, his head literally does relocate to his butt.

[Tiinker]

and?

 

Could be semantics but calling people probably town and whatnot all seems like it's meta-based. As someone who's not accustomed to most meta's here it's pretty useless info for me.

[Tiinker]

 

Lol Zander. Are you being intentionally cryptic or do you actually have reasoning behind being that erratic. ISO'ing you is a nightmare. Make a long post and consolidate some thoughts for us instead of just assuming we're following your every word. 

 

Who knows these things??!?!!?!?!?

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

 

and?

 

Could be semantics but calling people probably town and whatnot all seems like it's meta-based. As someone who's not accustomed to most meta's here it's pretty useless info for me.

 

 

You'll get used to it :3

[Zander?]

Hallia

Lenlo

WiFi

Pral

 

^ wolves in here

 

Get back on message bros.

 

 

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

 

Either my reads are GOAT or Cory's a Wolf.

[Lenlo]

 

If Prals a villager that would rank in like the top 3 worst plays/moves Ive ever seen a Villa make.

 

I like to think Pral is much better that.

Meh, if Pral's a villager he made a mistake. I'd chuck it in the same bin as 100 others I've seen and made myself.

 

If you want to see some truly god awful village plays, ask me for archive stories one of these days. ;)

 

Dude, im always up for Archive story time

 

Oh look Shad's posting a mile a minute and commenting on everything and making deep reaching and thoughtful points that fit a pattern of a villager trying to solve but he doesn't know for a fact that I am town, he must be a wolf!!!!!!

 

If you're a villager get your head out of your butt.

Welcome to one of the problems ive had with Zander all game.

 

My WTL for tomorrow is Pral > Hallia >>>> Zander ~= Crusher. 

 

Zander and Crusher are about the same in that Crusher hasnt given me as many reasons to call him town, where as Zander has been all over the place in this game. Shad, Cory and Tiink are all basically blue or dark green at this point. Id put Wifi in the middle just off of soul read.

[Zander?]

Finding WiFis posts pretty scummy. It seems really unnecessary and regardless of his flip it's going to give her an "I told you so!" avenue or "Why would I defend him so hard since he was obv gonna be lynched". 

 

Wifi's got her own style she's developing.

 

Either shes took it to another level this game or shes playing with TMI imo.

 

Zander do you remember that bit about players who would be having the best wolf game of their lives if they were wolves and what alignment they usually are?

 

Because Shad is already near that point if not there already.

 

I do.

 

And you may be right there,

 

Still I have concerns tho.

[Lenlo]

Granted, my WTL means nothing since I cant actually lynch someone

[Wildfire Sedai]

Pral's been in a couple of games with me. So, knows how I play.  I have been town in every one but one, check my siggie. He knows I am town.  He can use that info as wolf to link me to him for a ML OR recognizes the TOWNIE in me that I am.

 

 

 

Hallia

Lenlo

WiFi

Pral

 

^ wolves in here

 

Get back on message bros.

 

 

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

 

Either my reads are GOAT or Cory's a Wolf.

 

 

This could work the other way too:

 

Cory's reads are GOAT and you could be a wolf.    just saying   

[Zander?]

WiFi being Pral's top town read is somewhat nauseating

 

Agreed.

 

It's funny because when Bastion goes into turret mode in the game, his head literally does relocate to his butt.

 

sadface,gif

 

 

 

Lol Zander. Are you being intentionally cryptic or do you actually have reasoning behind being that erratic. ISO'ing you is a nightmare. Make a long post and consolidate some thoughts for us instead of just assuming we're following your every word. 

 

Who knows these things??!?!!?!?!?

 

 

 

 

Sometimes Tink theres a Method to my Madness.

[Wildfire Sedai]

ebwop OR you could be a wolf

[Tiinker]

Pral's been in a couple of games with me. So, knows how I play.  I have been town in every one but one, check my siggie. He knows I am town.  He can use that info as wolf to link me to him for a ML OR recognizes the TOWNIE in me that I am.

 

 

 

Hallia

Lenlo

WiFi

Pral

 

^ wolves in here

 

Get back on message bros.

 

 

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

 

Either my reads are GOAT or Cory's a Wolf.

 

 

This could work the other way too:

 

Cory's reads are GOAT and you could be a wolf.    just saying  

 

Except Zander isn't on Cory's list? What? 

[Tiinker]

I'm having a migraine. Can this night just end?

[Zander?]

Pral's been in a couple of games with me. So, knows how I play.  I have been town in every one but one, check my siggie. He knows I am town.  He can use that info as wolf to link me to him for a ML OR recognizes the TOWNIE in me that I am.

 

 

 

Hallia

Lenlo

WiFi

Pral

 

^ wolves in here

 

Get back on message bros.

 

 

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

 

Either my reads are GOAT or Cory's a Wolf.

 

 

This could work the other way too:

 

Cory's reads are GOAT and you could be a wolf.    just saying  

 

Wifi I reall think youre likely a Wolf with Pral.

 

Youre response up top irt Pral.

 

You yourself said early everyone thinks youre Scummy early on.

 

Yet you think Pral "knows" youre Town?

 

You said youve played 2-3 games with him?  Im pretty sure you prolly played more with others here.

 

And to the last part just reread your response again and see if that makes any sense.

 

And I guess you can also just disregard the fact I posted my reads lists first...

 

lololololol

 

lolololol

[Tiinker]

 

Finding WiFis posts pretty scummy. It seems really unnecessary and regardless of his flip it's going to give her an "I told you so!" avenue or "Why would I defend him so hard since he was obv gonna be lynched". 

 

Wifi's got her own style she's developing.

 

Either shes took it to another level this game or shes playing with TMI imo.

 

 

I think it's the latter. What do you think??

[Zander?]

 

 

Finding WiFis posts pretty scummy. It seems really unnecessary and regardless of his flip it's going to give her an "I told you so!" avenue or "Why would I defend him so hard since he was obv gonna be lynched". 

 

Wifi's got her own style she's developing.

 

Either shes took it to another level this game or shes playing with TMI imo.

 

 

I think it's the latter. What do you think??

 

 

I think its the latter as well.

 

Tho I want it to be the former.

[Shad_]

@ Lenlo the top thing that's bugged me about you this game was your adamant insistence that Kat was wolfy for lower participation than usual. Because while I was willing to grant there could be subtle distinctions in her early game that I just haven't learned to pick up on yet but Cory might have, it's a difficult call to make as meta goes and you're one of the least meta-driven players in here.

 

Just throwing that out there.  I'm extremely hesitant to draw conclusions on you because I've been wrong so many times.  Need to try and figure out what about your early games in WoW and Disney gave me a gut feel that you were villa early for a change because whatever it was it was right.  I think claiming your day ability out the gate was a good look, though when I try to think how it might have been used more cleverly as a wolf I draw a blank.  Still need to look more closely at your summary and reads list.

 

I haven't read anyone in isolation yet except Pral and Wifi so that's a project for tonight if I live.

[Zander?]

@ Lenlo the top thing that's bugged me about you this game was your adamant insistence that Kat was wolfy for lower participation than usual. Because while I was willing to grant there could be subtle distinctions in her early game that I just haven't learned to pick up on yet but Cory might have, it's a difficult call to make as meta goes and you're one of the least meta-driven players in here.

 

Just throwing that out there.  I'm extremely hesitant to draw conclusions on you because I've been wrong so many times.  Need to try and figure out what about your early games in WoW and Disney gave me a gut feel that you were villa early for a change because whatever it was it was right.  I think claiming your day ability out the gate was a good look, though when I try to think how it might have been used more cleverly as a wolf I draw a blank.  Still need to look more closely at your summary and reads list.

 

I haven't read anyone in isolation yet except Pral and Wifi so that's a project for tonight if I live.

 

You might to prioritize that...

[Zander?]

might want to

[Zander?]

Hi again Pral....the longer you lurk the better i feel about you flipping Wolf

[Lenlo]

@ Lenlo the top thing that's bugged me about you this game was your adamant insistence that Kat was wolfy for lower participation than usual. Because while I was willing to grant there could be subtle distinctions in her early game that I just haven't learned to pick up on yet but Cory might have, it's a difficult call to make as meta goes and you're one of the least meta-driven players in here.

 

Just throwing that out there.  I'm extremely hesitant to draw conclusions on you because I've been wrong so many times.  Need to try and figure out what about your early games in WoW and Disney gave me a gut feel that you were villa early for a change because whatever it was it was right.  I think claiming your day ability out the gate was a good look, though when I try to think how it might have been used more cleverly as a wolf I draw a blank.  Still need to look more closely at your summary and reads list.

 

I haven't read anyone in isolation yet except Pral and Wifi so that's a project for tonight if I live.

I mean, was it adamant insistence? If you look back, all I said was "I expect this from Pral, I dont expect it from Kat.". Other then that, I pointed at some specific posts of hers I found wolfy in the catchup. *shrug* I feel there was more to the read than just low participation.

 

As for meta, theres no specific instances I was bringing up. It was just a feeling, cause generally Kat has something memorable. I feel like I should expect something impactful from her and I didnt get it. As for the ability I coul have just... not revealed it. And then saved people and made this a game of NAs. I dunno, I was just tryin to kickstart somethin.

 

If you figure somethin out though, let me know. Im always curious what other people think the meta on me is like, even if I dont keep up with everyone elses.

[Shad_]

You might to prioritize that...

 

might want to

If this is another threat to vig me I really don't care. I live a life of constant distractions until my kids are asleep and I do what I can do when I can do it.

[Zander?]

 

You might to prioritize that...

 

might want to

If this is another threat to vig me I really don't care. I live a life of constant distractions until my kids are asleep and I do what I can do when I can do it.

 

 

It was meant to be encouragement...time prolly of the essence.

 

sadface,gif

[Shad_]

I've only played 2/3 games with pral. There is no way that I would have known that he could only vote anonymously.

This is another one of those little misconception things that makes me think Wifi is being honest.

 

And as has been the trend in this game, honestly thinking that and saying it doesn't make her a villager necessarily.

 

How much is she blindly trusting what other people tell her?  That's actually a sort of towny thing for her.  But she said the other night that she was sick of being right and trusting people who told her she was wrong, and she was going to stick more to her own reads in this game.  I kind of doubt she fabricates that excuse to explain a difference in play, but it still results in a difference in play, and that in turn makes me glance at her sideways a lot more than I'm used to.

 

Still think she's probably a villager.