[Role Madness] Overwatch Mafia - Game Over

[Zander?]

 

If you knew it was gonna be a no lynch obv you were following along.

 

There were others in the thread.

 

Crush had made a comment about voting her iirc.

Nope, just came on during the deadline and saw it was 5/6 with minutes left.

 

 

lolok

[Pralaya]

you were on earlier in the day as well in the thread.

 

so you dont think commenting on anything is important?

 

Not being caught up as you claim

 

And just drop a vote to avoid a no lynch?

Caught up like 5 pages before I gave up for the day.That's pretty much the time I have during weekends.

 

Having played with me this long, you know that I don't comment until I catch up. DOn't see what you are trying to bring up.

[Zander?]

 

you were on earlier in the day as well in the thread.

 

so you dont think commenting on anything is important?

 

Not being caught up as you claim

 

And just drop a vote to avoid a no lynch?

Caught up like 5 pages before I gave up for the day.That's pretty much the time I have during weekends.

 

Having played with me this long, you know that I don't comment until I catch up. DOn't see what you are trying to bring up.

 

 

But you made the time to be here for dl and drop on a lynch that you claim you knew nothing about.

 

I know one thing.

 

Thats makes absolutely no sense.

 

Youre prolly just a Wolf.

[Pralaya]

Anyway, I am going to be the d2 lynch. And I should be. No problem.

 

But, after my flip, lynch Zander. He is the obvious mafia here, looking from my perspective. Stalling the vote to lead to a no lynch, going after a weak opposition, tryign to gain favour point by not participating in a town lynch and opportunistic voting. He would be my biggest scum read

 

Also, don't like Lenlo posturing at the end of the day. I get that his vote proects the lynch but his tone with zander was as if he was trying to curry favour points with town. His bullying of wifi to get her role also looked like role fishing and I don't like it.

 

Based on the quick skimming of the thread.

 

Okay so Hallia made 46 posts before I posted my reads list of those I consider a total of 14 of them to be post related (see all future reference posts for details) so that gives a 0.30434782608%  game related content.  However, It took me most of the day to do my post and I wasn't keeping up with the thread that much during that time so give me a 2% either way chance for error. so if we round that would be: 28-32% of game related posts...which figures out to non-game related posts to 72-68%. Which is a far, far cry from the 95% I thought it was.   so:

This is town wifi. She plays like a newbie and I usually end up thinking thatshe can hide easily behind the newbieness. But, I don't see her making a lot of effort just to waste it, if she is scum. I don't see her being scum at all.

 

Also, Hallia's response to wifi is pretty much townish. I see her being evry aggressive and opportunistic if hallia was scum.

[Pralaya]

But you made the time to be here for dl and drop on a lynch that you claim you knew nothing about.

 

I know one thing.

 

Thats makes absolutely no sense.

 

Youre prolly just a Wolf.

Which is like 5 minutes. I can spare that much time, lol.

[Pralaya]

 

This is what I think - from wolf to town:

 

Zander

Lenlo

Shad

Cory

Crusher

Tiinker

Hallia

Wifi

 

I don't think I will be on today again - till D2, if I am alive till then.

[Zander?]

Anyway, I am going to be the d2 lynch. And I should be. No problem.

 

But, after my flip, lynch Zander. He is the obvious mafia here, looking from my perspective. Stalling the vote to lead to a no lynch, going after a weak opposition, tryign to gain favour point by not participating in a town lynch and opportunistic voting. He would be my biggest scum read

 

Also, don't like Lenlo posturing at the end of the day. I get that his vote proects the lynch but his tone with zander was as if he was trying to curry favour points with town. His bullying of wifi to get her role also looked like role fishing and I don't like it.

 

Based on the quick skimming of the thread.

 

Okay so Hallia made 46 posts before I posted my reads list of those I consider a total of 14 of them to be post related (see all future reference posts for details) so that gives a 0.30434782608%  game related content.  However, It took me most of the day to do my post and I wasn't keeping up with the thread that much during that time so give me a 2% either way chance for error. so if we round that would be: 28-32% of game related posts...which figures out to non-game related posts to 72-68%. Which is a far, far cry from the 95% I thought it was.   so:

This is town wifi. She plays like a newbie and I usually end up thinking thatshe can hide easily behind the newbieness. But, I don't see her making a lot of effort just to waste it, if she is scum. I don't see her being scum at all.

 

Also, Hallia's response to wifi is pretty much townish. I see her being evry aggressive and opportunistic if hallia was scum.

 

 

Trying to get a no lynch over a ml in a 10 player role aids heavy game?

 

Ya ok Pral.

[Zander?]

 

But you made the time to be here for dl and drop on a lynch that you claim you knew nothing about.

 

I know one thing.

 

Thats makes absolutely no sense.

 

Youre prolly just a Wolf.

Which is like 5 minutes. I can spare that much time, lol.

 

 

[Pralaya]

 

Trying to get a no lynch over a ml in a 10 player role aids heavy game?

 

Ya ok Pral.

Hindsight is awesome.

[Zander?]

 

Trying to get a no lynch over a ml in a 10 player role aids heavy game?

 

Ya ok Pral.

Hindsight is awesome.

 

 

lolololol

[Tiinker]

Hallia has been a lot less interactive than I remember her being. Seems like she only posts when she needs to.

[Tiinker]

Anyway, I am going to be the d2 lynch. And I should be. No problem.

 

But, after my flip, lynch Zander. He is the obvious mafia here, looking from my perspective. Stalling the vote to lead to a no lynch, going after a weak opposition, tryign to gain favour point by not participating in a town lynch and opportunistic voting. He would be my biggest scum read

 

Also, don't like Lenlo posturing at the end of the day. I get that his vote proects the lynch but his tone with zander was as if he was trying to curry favour points with town. His bullying of wifi to get her role also looked like role fishing and I don't like it.

 

Based on the quick skimming of the thread.

 

Okay so Hallia made 46 posts before I posted my reads list of those I consider a total of 14 of them to be post related (see all future reference posts for details) so that gives a 0.30434782608%  game related content.  However, It took me most of the day to do my post and I wasn't keeping up with the thread that much during that time so give me a 2% either way chance for error. so if we round that would be: 28-32% of game related posts...which figures out to non-game related posts to 72-68%. Which is a far, far cry from the 95% I thought it was.   so:

This is town wifi. She plays like a newbie and I usually end up thinking thatshe can hide easily behind the newbieness. But, I don't see her making a lot of effort just to waste it, if she is scum. I don't see her being scum at all.

 

Also, Hallia's response to wifi is pretty much townish. I see her being evry aggressive and opportunistic if hallia was scum.

 

 

Sowing WIFOM?

[Cory Caboose]

Pral - why not just vote the wagon?

 

I have infinite trouble believing that if you had the time to submit the ninja vote that you couldn't make ONE post in the thread, especially since you'd read enough to know the wagon situation.

 

How difficult is it to say "I am going to vote Kat."

[Hallia]

Morning all

 

Life was busy the last couple of days.

[Cory Caboose]

Halleh <3

 

I'll be sporadic today, with family. Will be around from phone ^.^

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

tiink feel free to jump right in....

 

Tink had been pretty involved and was already voting Kat iirc.

 

What made you signal him out here?

 

 

This post vvvvv

Am I invisible? 

 

 

 

 

 

Zander I said I was sorry

 

I'll make it up to you somehow

 

If youre Town imma hold you to this.

 

 

 

 

 

Already said but vigging Pral is indeed a terrible idea considering Genji's ability L-SHIFT is "deflect" and I would wager a guess in what that could do in a mafia game

 

I never said anything about Pral

 

 

I'm a villager and I tried my best.

If you think I deserve retribution for not seeing eye-to-eye with you in a ultimately kind of stressful hour or two, that's your bad call.

 

 

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for my reads...

 

cory and crusher moved up to townies

 

pral moved down...though I guess its hind sight now... I was keeping on refreshing the page to keep up to date...so couldn't get this out in time...

 

oh and I also have a night activity that I am not sure how to use...and what exactly it does....got to talk to nolder...bbiam

 

 

Why Cory who started and drove the Kat mislynch make you slot him in as Towny?

 

 

Cause he was actually getting something done and even though it was a ML, I didn't know it for one.  However, I KNEW/KNOW that lynching me will be a ML.

 

 

Wifi you didnt answer my question, why are you soooooo certain Pral isnt the anonymous voter?

Well I guess I was wrong here since he confessed. However, I had already answered that question here: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98608-role-madness-overwatch-mafia-round-15/?p=3698940  and here: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98608-role-madness-overwatch-mafia-round-15/?p=3698957

and if you will note. I said that it still does NOT make him a townie if he didn't do it...but he did do it...so thats another food for thought...thinking on that.

 

 

Well i reread EoD and this is kinda where im at,

 

Tinker- Claim and subsequent dl extension and way more invested then his last game where he was Scum.  His vote bothers me the least on the Kat train.

 

Crusher- I have very little Meta here. His EoD seemed ok irt to his Kat progression.  A Pral Scum flip would make me feel better about him.

 

Shad- Pinged me early on.  His catchup made me feel better about him.  EoD a little sketchy. 

 

Cory- I can see a world where the lynch on Kat could come from either alignment. I can see Town!Cory seeing its like little over an hour out and try to get things going.  I can also see a world where Scum!Cory was just trying to get an ML.

 

Lenlo- Involvement level looks good.  I dont like that he parked hsi vote on Pral but I can see Town!Lenlo doing that to spite just as easliy as I can see Scum!Lenlo doing it regardless of Pral's alignment.  Both of his abilities he's claimed make sense from either alignment imo.

 

Wifi-  Her early game pinged me. Also her certainty of Hallia's alignment is note worthy.  If shes right it could be a GOAT read from Town!Wifi but shes had the read for awhile and it could be a less experienced Wolf awkwardly placing a teammate. She could also just be Town and the awkwardness could be coming from a bit of uncertainty as to how to play her abilites.

 

Hallia- She hasnt been overly Towny or Scummy but. her nonchalant attitude towards EoD, and her progression on Kat and lack of empathy to it seems out of place.  I dont see how Town!Hallia gets to where she does on Kat and care so little.

 

Pral- I dont see where a world where Prals online like that more then once and doesnt jump in as Town.

 

I don't hate this at all

 

 

Obv NA's can change a lot but to add on to where Im at.

 

If Pral flips Wolf-

 

Crusher's Town equity goes up some. Crusher could have just voted Kat.

Hallia's Scum equity goes up some. She had Pral listed higher then Kat but didnt push it at all.  Also factoring in her EoD

Lenlo's Wolf equity rises a little based off of his vote ability placed on Pral EoD.

 

If Pral flips Town-

 

Wifi's Wolf equity rises.  This is based off of her certainty on him not being the cloaked voter.

 

If im wrong on one or more of my reads-

 

I will be looking hard at Cory and Shad.

 

Unless Lenlo Town tells like a Boss and starts mowing down Scum.  Im not sure Id let him make it end game.

 

 

Now why would my wolf equity rise cause I thought he wasn't the cloaked voter?  I've only played 2/3 games with pral. There is no way that I would have known that he could only vote anonymously.  I think that the people we should be looking at for wolf equity are those who believed that pral is wolf and was the anonymous poster before he posted...maybe attempts at bussing...didn't think he'd be on this weekend?? Just throwing stuff out there. 

[Zander?]

It was weird irt to you saying Pral was not the cloaked voter.

 

Literally the only 2 people not voting were Kat and Pral.

 

You think Kat self voted after not being here all weekend to ML herself?

 

And now Pral's linking himself to you even more with that straight up Town read.

 

Which after your last post saying you only played 2/3 games his knowledge of your Meta is quite alarming.

[Zander?]

Cory your level of flip flopping, indecisiveness irt to Hallia is off putting

 

IIRC you claim you can read Hallia quite well.

[Zander?]

[Zander?]

[Wildfire Sedai]

tbh I didn't think of that the only two left thing...I thought someone might have an extra vote or something...

 

nolder doesn't put the who's NOT voting on the vc so it wasn't obvious to me.

 

and I have said that even if pral wasn't the anonymous voter does NOT make him town.

[Wildfire Sedai]

do you people actually read my posts....I know some people have said they skip my posts or at least I thought I saw someone say that  

[Zander?]

tbh I didn't think of that the only two left thing...I thought someone might have an extra vote or something...

 

nolder doesn't put the who's NOT voting on the vc so it wasn't obvious to me.

 

and I have said that even if pral wasn't the anonymous voter does NOT make him town.

 

That dont matter because he was the voter.

 

And maybe others but I know Cory and I both called out it had to be Pral based on the VC so im not sure how you missed it...

 

What is your current read on Pral?

[Zander?]

[Cory Caboose]

Cory your level of flip flopping, indecisiveness irt to Hallia is off putting

 

IIRC you claim you can read Hallia quite well.

You were in Spirited Away.