[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Lizabeth]

 

 

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

What makes you think he's town?

 

I read the thread.

 

Okay, I need to go to bed. I totally misread what you said XD

 

I thought you told ME to read the thread.

 

"I read the thread" is almost as snarky, but not quite AS irritating :P

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

I think it's true enough, Zander. I know I miscleared you in matrix for effort, and Diablo - mostly because of Besie. I'm trying to think if Ive ever read you as mafia when you weren't, beyond your first game.

 

Can't come up with any off the top of my head. I know I was right in Star Wars and Age of Legends.

so what's your current read on him?

Weaker scumread but still firmly in the lynchable pool. I don't know where I'd rank him, but he's at least put some distance between himself and Len/Tina.

That's funny because for me it's the opposite...I was town reading him and now he's a weaker town read for me

I know, and I still can't figure out what made you feel particularly good about him. I responded to your answer from before about it, since you seemed to misunderstand my question.

[Zander?]

I think it's true enough, Zander. I know I miscleared you in matrix for effort, and Diablo - mostly because of Besie. I'm trying to think if Ive ever read you as mafia when you weren't, beyond your first game.

 

Can't come up with any off the top of my head. I know I was right in Star Wars and Age of Legends.

 

OK.

 

You still have me Scummy?

[seph]

 

darthe you are horrible at mafia lol.

 

ps. I already know I am horrible, so glgl ill be back at dl.

I would only want to lynch liz/tina d1

Why are you wanting to lynch me? Because I'm asking questions about you at the moment?

 

Funny that you're not engaging me directly or answering any of my questions but you want to vote me...

 

you have asked questions about me?

 

I am voting you because you are not like the liz I played with in the last two games, both games you came in like a freaking shining ball of towny glory to put it simply. here you came in and just posted suspicions about zander. I didn't feel you were looking at the whole game at the time, but kinda just throwing shad @ zander tbh,

 

In your iso I felt like you had a difficult time coming into the thread yes this could be just because you are behind, but it's also a easy excuse for scum to make. all in all I just don't see a town liz here

 

darthe you are horrible at mafia lol.

 

ps. I already know I am horrible, so glgl ill be back at dl.

I would only want to lynch liz/tina d1

Why are you wanting to lynch me? Because I'm asking questions about you at the moment?

 

Funny that you're not engaging me directly or answering any of my questions but you want to vote me...

 

you have asked questions about me?

 

I am voting you because you are not like the liz I played with in the last two games, both games you came in like a freaking shining ball of towny glory to put it simply. here you came in and just posted suspicions about zander. I didn't feel you were looking at the whole game at the time, but kinda just throwing shad @ zander tbh,

 

In your iso I felt like you had a difficult time coming into the thread yes this could be just because you are behind, but it's also a easy excuse for scum to make. all in all I just don't see a town liz here

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

she did tell me she thought you were a villa silli, but i kinda want to avoid biasing myself before i actually read it

 

80 pages tho

 

then why are you asking others for cliff notes if shes telling you stuff?

 

 

because what you/others find important might be different to what she finds important

 

especially given most of the game revolves around interactions, seems worthwhile to get not just one player (whos alignment i already know) perspective

 

 

Whats your read on me?

 

 

i liked when you called her lenbot

 

that was pretty cute

 

im on page 25 or so and the first post i thought was non-null was calling out silli for the number of words in her posts and i thought it was wolfy because i don't remember that from myro games (of which we have played one w/w, one v/v(n) and one v/w iirc)

 

if she posts differently here maybe, but it doesn't seem like a good kind of read to give

 

 

I am cute and she is Lenbot....so thist part is correct.

 

Sili is a dude. and I have no idea what you mean by the last part at all.

 

How many games you play with Sili?

 

 

i am telling you i thought the post was wolfy because it was both not necessarily correct as far as my understanding goes and not a villagery read to go out of your way to give

 

3 on pog, under myrologue, which i thought was a girl but if i am wrong whoops

 

 

How is it not villagery to call out something that goes against someones normal meta?

 

ive also played a lot more then 3 games with him.

 

 

because its not the meta ime

 

and i think its an easy reason to call someone out

 

i literally just said these things

 

 

oh so people shouldnt call things out because theyre easy?

 

Its not his Meta AS YOU perceive it.

 

What you said tho doesnt jive to me.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

it seems seph was more attached to the idea of 'buddying' hallia than actually forming a town core around core town members.

I thought she was town, it isn't like I buddied her in every post I had towards her.

and I think I have done a decent job of the people I am reading as town

uhm. okay.

 

i'm stretching here to put myself in your shoes tbh.

Look at this through the following lens: imagine seph is a wolf way out of practice and he got called on something he doesnt have a good response for.

 

It fits perfectly. He floundered out a response and now is moving to convuluted damage control.

 

Its impossibly didficult to imagine him remembering so specifically his logic for a post that he was so flippant about that he forgot it in his own reads list.

 

The man can detail reasoning for an afterthought over a day later but cant avoid making three slips so far this game? Gimme a break.

Can you describe the difference between this game and the games you misread him and he was Town?

His alignment

 

 

lololololololol

 

I love you.

 

What else besides that iyo?

[Zander?]

 

sili she was my 2nd highest read, jesus christ.

Wasn't he yout wolfiest read in your notes?

 

 

Hes not talking about Sili here,

 

Its Hallia iirc.

[Hallia]

I believe so too

[Stork]

hm

 

don't really like clovdyx on page 31, though i only know his "play" from his attitude in skype chats/on mu

 

he isn't actually DOING anything, and i know he believes himself to be a god amongst mortals

 

his defense of seph to zanders attack is pretty hideous, could easily be w/w

 

would think he would be going out of his way to lead

[Darthe]

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

I agree. That you think him town is a very bad look

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

What makes you think he's town?

I read the thread.

Okay, I need to go to bed. I totally misread what you said XD

 

I thought you told ME to read the thread.

 

"I read the thread" is almost as snarky, but not quite AS irritating :P

I'd apologize, but I'm really not that sorry

 

His early posts sounded good to me, with a certain amount of sincerity. The comment he made about trying to get on Alanna and BFG's good sides if he were mafia seems like a really strange thing to say.

 

I thought when he was going back and forth with siki, he wasn't stretching or misrepping anything.

 

His willingness to reevaluate and look at the bigger picture is a very protown. Unless he's mafia eith sili, I don't see why he would argue that silis actions have been scummy and use a very noticeable meta to clear him before anybody else brings it up.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zander, why you no answer my questions?

 

Wishtree, why you no answer my questions? :sad:

 

Nobody's answering my questions except for (partially) Darthe....

 

 

@Stork, hi! But why don't you ask your partner for the cliff's notes?

 

What questions did I miss?

 

I don't remember anymore

 

I used to hate the iso system at PerC but I'm actually finding the one here to be more unwieldly (for me) but I'll try to track back and find and repost the questions.

 

In the meantime, what's your current read on Celeste?

 

 

Penny is in this game and hasnt posted yet????

 

Lets lunch her up???

 

WTF PLANET ARE YOU ON TONIGHT MY DEAR??!?!!?

 

 

....

 

I meant Lenny...

 

answer the question please?

 

 

Youre seriously asking for my read on Lenbot???

 

When I said Id prolly never vote outside of her and Nina?

 

I think shes prolly Scum my dear.

 

Yes, I'm asking. There was a reason I asked. Because some of your posts in arguing with her you were talking to her like you thought she was town tunnelling on you. That's why I asked.

 

 

I demand you show me where I said this!!!!!

[Stork]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

she did tell me she thought you were a villa silli, but i kinda want to avoid biasing myself before i actually read it

 

80 pages tho

 

then why are you asking others for cliff notes if shes telling you stuff?

 

 

because what you/others find important might be different to what she finds important

 

especially given most of the game revolves around interactions, seems worthwhile to get not just one player (whos alignment i already know) perspective

 

 

Whats your read on me?

 

 

i liked when you called her lenbot

 

that was pretty cute

 

im on page 25 or so and the first post i thought was non-null was calling out silli for the number of words in her posts and i thought it was wolfy because i don't remember that from myro games (of which we have played one w/w, one v/v(n) and one v/w iirc)

 

if she posts differently here maybe, but it doesn't seem like a good kind of read to give

 

 

I am cute and she is Lenbot....so thist part is correct.

 

Sili is a dude. and I have no idea what you mean by the last part at all.

 

How many games you play with Sili?

 

 

i am telling you i thought the post was wolfy because it was both not necessarily correct as far as my understanding goes and not a villagery read to go out of your way to give

 

3 on pog, under myrologue, which i thought was a girl but if i am wrong whoops

 

 

How is it not villagery to call out something that goes against someones normal meta?

 

ive also played a lot more then 3 games with him.

 

 

because its not the meta ime

 

and i think its an easy reason to call someone out

 

i literally just said these things

 

 

oh so people shouldnt call things out because theyre easy?

 

Its not his Meta AS YOU perceive it.

 

What you said tho doesnt jive to me.

 

 

back atcha, though i think thats kinda the point

[alannalynn]

TRIM YOUR FREAKING NESTED QUOTES

[Darthe]

Clov idk how youre getting where you are mentally. Gonna need you to show your math boss

[Darthe]

TRIM YOUR FREAKING NESTED QUOTES

Advocates for trimming unite!

[Stork]

TRIM YOUR FREAKING NESTED QUOTES

 

ooops

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

it seems seph was more attached to the idea of 'buddying' hallia than actually forming a town core around core town members.

I thought she was town, it isn't like I buddied her in every post I had towards her.

and I think I have done a decent job of the people I am reading as town

uhm. okay.

 

i'm stretching here to put myself in your shoes tbh.

Look at this through the following lens: imagine seph is a wolf way out of practice and he got called on something he doesnt have a good response for.

 

It fits perfectly. He floundered out a response and now is moving to convuluted damage control.

 

Its impossibly didficult to imagine him remembering so specifically his logic for a post that he was so flippant about that he forgot it in his own reads list.

 

The man can detail reasoning for an afterthought over a day later but cant avoid making three slips so far this game? Gimme a break.

Can you describe the difference between this game and the games you misread him and he was Town?

His alignment

lololololololol

 

I love you.

 

What else besides that iyo?

Honestly I cannot. I hardly remember past last games, dont give that much to mafia anymore.

[Darthe]

 

TRIM YOUR FREAKING NESTED QUOTES

ooops

Echo

[Stork]

i like that lenlo post though

 

feels like i am reading too slowly and barely noticing a lot of posters (halie/alanna/etc.) because of the kerfuffling which doesn't seem especially impactful

[Zander?]

And I didn't see you say you weren't going to vote outside of her and Niniel. Where was that please?

 

Liz you know I love you.  But Ive proven everything you asked me for.

 

Look it up yourself.  its there I promise.

 

Again its like youre not reading my posts.

 

And youre certainly not being Town!Boss like you were last game,

 

And the LEVEL of disconnect between the 2 is alarming

 

And no Im not saying every Town game someones always gonna be a Boss unless your name is Cory Curren but there a very considerable difference.

[Lizabeth]

 

 

That is to say, you haven't moved out of your wolf range, especially with what I mentioned above, and it's bothering me.

What do you consider to be his wolf range?

 

 

 

 

 

People have mentioned you as an easy town read, and yeah, aorn it's not a very strong case at all, but I suspect you for not being so obvious NOT SCUM zander that I have to dig into you and keep going.

 

Very few people can read me easily and or well.

 

2 of the top Cory and Shad arent in the game.  Dice is.  Hallia as well to a bit lesser degree imo.

 

You dont even know my Town game so what youre coming up with doesnt sit well.

 

 

 

What about Dice - Dice said he can read you and in @216 you seemed to agree.

 

And what about Clov?

 

 

 

@Zander, I looked back to my catch up questions and you did eventually answer the question i asked you here in our later exchange where I actually missed that you mentioned Dice in that original post.

 

When I've commented on you not answering my questions, it's just felt like I'd post a question to you, wait for your response, see you responding to posts before and after mine, and then only respond to mine AFTER I complained that you weren't answering my questions.

 

I'm too tired right now to look back and see if that time line is valid, but that's how it felt to me in real time.

 

And it honestly did feel to me reading through the argument between you and Lenny from yesterday's posts (in the page 30s) that you were responding to Lenny like you thought she was town and needed to adjust her read on you. So that's why I asked what your read on her was. And why I want to know WHEN it is that you said you weren't going to vote outside of her and Niniel.

 

I'm going to head for bed soon, because my tracking abilities are obviously not the greatest right now, but I'd like to hear the answer to WHEN you said what you did about lenny/niniel before I go to sleep.

 

For the record, I disagree with you about Lenny, but I can see from skimbackreading what people are saying about Niniel. But I need to understand you before I'd actually consider putting a vote on her.

[Stork]

i am quickly coming to the conclusion that i have no clue what i am doing on this site also

[alannalynn]

I'm serious. If I have to scroll UP to see who the f is talking, you have too many effing quotes nested. Use a spoiler tag or cut out what's unnecessary. It's increasing difficult to CATCH UP when you people have all these damn quotes which are barely readable and clog up the thread and reading time.

[Lizabeth]

And i fail at spoilers XD