[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

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Darthe

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[Zander?]

Also Celeste has done nothing to show me shes townie.

 

For Bess, ive left the door open. Ive said multiple times how if she is town that EoD play was horrible and in no world a townie move. Over the night I became more concerned with how Zander was still 100% town reading her after that EoD.

 

I straight up dont think Scum!Besie makes that move there.

 

As I said, I feel more like its uncertainty in her reads after the claim.

 

I mean anyone else who has played with her can weigh in.

 

Its Meta based, and the only Meta I have on Besie is Scum!Besie Meta and Im not seeing anything similar from her atp.

[Zander?]

 

I dont have him above NULL. My def of him was predicated on the fact that alot of people were suddenly voting him out of nowhere, with no real case made and no real reason. If someone had given me a legit case, something to actually evaluate, coulda gone from there. But the closest I got was from Zander and I didnt think what he presented was all that bad.

What takes him off the table for D2?

 

 

He's not off the table for me atp.

[Zander?]

Darthe

 

 

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[Lenlo]

 

I dont have him above NULL. My def of him was predicated on the fact that alot of people were suddenly voting him out of nowhere, with no real case made and no real reason. If someone had given me a legit case, something to actually evaluate, coulda gone from there. But the closest I got was from Zander and I didnt think what he presented was all that bad.

What takes him off the table for D2?

 

The fact that he was put up for Randoming yesterday? I want resolve all the crap Bess pulled at EoD. I thought the Kiv train reeked before she unvoted and pushed it to random. I believe she did that so that we would stay open to lynching Kiv tomorrow, effectively setting up a lynch for D2. Now if someone comes in with a cop view or a track or something concrete I will ofc go with it, but atm theres no case against him. Theres no reason to lynch him beyond the fact that he was almost lynched yesterday by a majority of 4.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty drained already and need to lie back down. Besie and Lenlo both set my hair on end at EoD but I haven't been able to fully process it yet.

 

I'll wager they aren't w/w though. I don't think scum!Lenlo willingly goes at his team mates to that extent. v/v is entirely possible but I need to look at it again

Why Lenlo? I've been feeling good about him

 

 

Initially?  The defense of Kivam at EoD when I don't see how anyone could have had him above null.

 

I dont have him above NULL. My def of him was predicated on the fact that alot of people were suddenly voting him out of nowhere, with no real case made and no real reason. If someone had given me a legit case, something to actually evaluate, coulda gone from there. But the closest I got was from Zander and I didnt think what he presented was all that bad.

 

 

If it wasnt bad why didnt you consider it?

 

I meant wasnt all that bad FOR Kiv

[Darthe]

Like, thoughts and stuff?

Pretty cool with the masons, with eldrick, with len and with kiv. Not really sure about others yet. Dont like blom or turin or nyn much yet.

[Guest]

 

 

 

It's not wrong.

It really is. If that was the foundation for lynching folks youd have to lynch the third of the game with less posts than I as well.

But when you factor in your Meta its really not that dumb imo.

When you factor in my meta everything gets dumb really quick. I just do whatever comes to mind on a whim, how is that something you can guage? I mean, meta is about predictive value and I myself wing it half the time.

I thought the same way at first. But it's not that. Your meta is the impression you leave because of your personality. I'm not talking about the enfp thing. I'm talking about the small things you can't control. The subtle things, that some very experienced and good players can pick up on; and notice if it repeats over time.

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The fact that he was put up for Randoming yesterday? I want resolve all the crap Bess pulled at EoD. I thought the Kiv train reeked before she unvoted and pushed it to random. I believe she did that so that we would stay open to lynching Kiv tomorrow, effectively setting up a lynch for D2. Now if someone comes in with a cop view or a track or something concrete I will ofc go with it, but atm theres no case against him. Theres no reason to lynch him beyond the fact that he was almost lynched yesterday by a majority of 4.

What reeked about it exactly?  I mean I know you said you didn't like the way people all started to come together in the closing half hour or so when the vote had been so split previously, but the only person I recall you taking issue with was Besie.

 

Also would you view this differently irt Hallia if say, Kivam was lynched and flipped VT?

[Sooh]

FYI, I may be a little late starting Day tonight because of the Eurovision song contest. I'll post as soon as it's done. Thanks for understanding!

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Pretty cool with the masons, with eldrick, with len and with kiv. Not really sure about others yet. Dont like blom or turin or nyn much yet.

 

I think the only things you've said about Kiv was to quote him once saying something was "odd" and then to give him a slight town edge for the EoD antics.

 

I feel like you've played a pretty closed game, and I dunno maybe you have RL distractions or something but the lack of accountability means it's going to be hard to ever put you above null if you're a villager.

[Darthe]

That's acceptable for now. If my game takes a bit to develop theb it isnt a big deal. If it takes all game then its a problem.

[Turin Turambar]

FYI, I may be a little late starting Day tonight because of the Eurovision song contest. I'll post as soon as it's done. Thanks for understanding!

apparently I have to as well >.>

 

it is required as a resident if Europe.

Read the fine print people

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Y'all should be watching Jason Day tear it up in the Players.

 

Golf gets no love.  :(

[Turin Turambar]

I used to watch golf. Played (sort of) too.

 

Pro golfers are witches tho.

[Sili Quirrels]

Golf is very slow. Perhaps unless you play gulf it's very hard to get invested in watching a game of it - because it requires a level of empathy and admiration.

[Sili Quirrels]

Whereas hockey has a lot of action and violence, and it attracts the eye as well as the mind. Same for the footballs of course, although I find that American football is rather complicated compared to other popular sports.

[Guest]

 

 

Like, thoughts and stuff?

Pretty cool with the masons, with eldrick, with len and with kiv.  Not really sure about others yet.  Dont like blom or turin or nyn much yet.

I don't like this. Your scum reads are mostly the rest of our town reads, and vice versa. Yes, it could be a stubborn town. But it could also be a scum trying to confuse the rest.

[Guest]

Well perhaps. Let's see end N1 first.

[Sili Quirrels]

I actually agree with his list lol. Maybe that's bad maybe that's good. Last time I found myself agreeing with Darthe it was a good thing though.

[Sili Quirrels]

Maybe I remove Lenlo though. I am actually not very comfortable with how he pushed Celeste therefore I should reread him.

[Guest]

It's really a difficult situation (yes... mostly because of me)

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Funny thing is I've never played golf a day in my life and I used to play street hockey all the time, but I don't much care to watch the latter.

 

Sports that play out without pause--hockey, basketball--are hard for me to focus on.  I'm too easily distracted and I'm generally always doing two or three things at once, and in those types of sports you can miss quite a bit in a few seconds.

[Sili Quirrels]

It's really a difficult situation (yes... mostly because of me)

Not especially. Your situation is rather easy to solve comparatively speaking.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Besie was sussing Kivam. I think she was also sussing hally.

 

She was advocating consolidating on whoever was mentioned the most in wtl (Kivam) to avoid random.

 

Hally and Kivam both claimed vt.

 

Besie stopped sussing both of them because of the vt claims.

 

Seconds before eod, she moves off of Kivam, putting him and hally at a tie for the lead, and onto Turin, who didn't have time to happen.

 

If besie is scum, Kivam probably isn't, and turin could be.

How does her voting me late implicate me as mafia?

 

I am not sure if a Bess mafia flip clears kiv.

My thinking was if either hally or Kivam were her teammate, putting it to rand would be a dangerous move.

 

In the same light, putting her vote on you would be a safe one.

 

The more I think about it, though, the more it doesn't make sense from a scum standpoint. If Hally and Kivam were both town, why did she bother unvoting, and why did she vote you?