[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

Shad_ · May 12, 2016

Eh. I'd taken it as pretty strong disagreement.

Well anyway.

Where the heck has Dice been?

Shad_ · May 12, 2016

Skim of Besie's early posts in Stick Figure, she looked very different there. Way more concerned about perception imo.

Zander? · May 12, 2016

Eh. I'd taken it as pretty strong disagreement.

Well anyway.

Where the heck has Dice been?

Well it is like 430 am Aussie Future time.

Shad_ · May 12, 2016

Stupid Oceania and its excessive vowels.

Shad_ · May 12, 2016

Lenlo could be town maybe.

Making me uneasy but wouldn't go there today:

Kivam

Nynaeve

Need more to even begin to form opinions:

Darthe

Celeste

Dice

Sili

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh:

Hallia

Shad_ · May 12, 2016

I'm going to take a nap or something.

seph · May 12, 2016

on page 14.... ugh the reread

May 12, 2016

Besie whay do you think about penneh this game?

Celeste? No opinion yet.

I've also been thinking about the thing previously said - about Zander and hallia not talking. Because they know each other so well, it's probably because one of them is scum. Also, if the scum tricked me into thinking it - well done.

Anyway, so my current thought is that Zander is probably town (I just feel better towards him) and Hallia scum.

Zander, why aren't you talking to Hallia?

You made like 20 posts saying "bump". -_-

I has sooooo much fails....

sadface.gif

I didnt get it either.

I dont really care what you believe. I dont see why your bringing this up, as it doesnt seem relevant. It doesnt address how Darthe is wolf because of Shad. It actually completely moves the conversation.

Why, yes. Yes, it does.

seph · May 12, 2016

I have zander as a slight town read atm on my reread. I just hit page 17.
tbh hallia has literally barely posted, so I think that hallia/zander comments are a little bit forward. hallia 1st wot was pretty uneventful, and gave us no info. atm I am fine with lynching her as well.

seph · May 12, 2016

can you tell me what changed your thought on zander exactly besie? I feel like I personally missed alot of his context early on. I know he has some posts I have yet to reach as well

seph · May 12, 2016

ill be posting a reads list and a wtl list soon. almost caught all the way up

May 12, 2016

can you tell me what changed your thought on zander exactly besie? I feel like I personally missed alot of his context early on. I know he has some posts I have yet to reach as well

The last few pages. He seemed quite his normal town self again.

seph · May 12, 2016

Wot

Youre legit sketching me out.

Am I doin it right?

Just let me know if your claiming wolf here.

@ Thane

You said Kiv's vote was interesting and that you were likely to follow it if no improvement.

Your reasoning for me needing improvement was Im not obv Town yet your Top Town read has me as his #2 Town.

Yes your Shad read bothers me as he's been sketching me the hell out.

The me and Hallia comment was to VERIFY it was last game.

Because you hadnt really commented about me not being or not being my Town!Zander self at all previously.

that's normal. See a possible wolf, you vote?

people can disagree on reads, is that odd? Nope, i don't think so.

Trust my Shad read here.

Thane can you give me your reason for shad.

So "it's really cute" was not meant to sound snarky? Or did I miss something here?

I actually took it as snarky as well

BESIE QUOTE THAT MESSED UP
Lol. I'm rarely snarky. It was meant like "I find it really interesting" and close to "I have respect for you for doing it"

I am confuse, if you were reading me as a wolf, how you come to this conclusion tbh.

Why do you think the vote is interesting Thane?

because, if there's no improvement from Zander, I think that's where my vote will go too. I know he's sick and all, but still... one is judged one gameplay

Has he pinged you or is it just that you don't feel he hit your townzander exceptions?

at this point, a bit of both, actually. Currently keeping a closer look on him, trying to figure him out more closely

TO be honest here thane, your content is pretty lacking for the amount game content zander has been lacking. It look like your skating around your read with him, refusing to give anything solid.

I am really lost with shad tbh, I keep going back and fourth on him. I really want to like him this game though...

Here's to hoping my reread helps

Honestly, look at my thread presence.

Not so much post count as the fact that since this game has started I've managed to consistently be here if I'm not sleeping.

It's not something I can/choose to always do as town, but I don't think I've ever had the drive for it as a wolf.

Shad, 1-10 how would you rate your game, if you are in fact town. I subbed into a wolf game, and you were pretty consistent until I started going at you pretty hard.

Statistically, Besie being wolf yet again would be insane (and one would have made a lot of money if there would have been bets on it)

on the other hand, she did want to break the new player scum streak record, and can be stubborn.....

Can you explain what you were trying to say about Bessie here? I am reading it two very different ways.I think because there seems to be some inconsistency between the bold and underlined.

I could just be readin it weird tho. But please clarify.

Thanes response
"This was more of a joke than anything else. The underlined should have given it away. She has randed wolf in every previous game so far, and we were on the wolf team together last game. "

This is depending on a thane flip, but I found this odd and could be a slip? The bold is talking about besie being a wolf in the current game. The underlined looks to be confirming she is a wolf in this game.

his response is bad because he is trying to say that he was talking about a previous game. The statements here are contradicting.
It's possible that his response to turin is what he meant, and typed it up wrong. ( I know how that feels)

It doesn't seem likely they would rand scum together again. but 1 wolf flip from either gives it more weight imo.

@ darthe in regards to your besie quote. (Not trying to re quote any of that)

I hate when people purposely play wolfy as town to help there wolf game. If they wanna play like a wolf, I'm going to lynch them like a wolf.
I don't see this ever helping town. I also don't see any reason atm to not lynch besie. Continuing my reread

As you wish. If you think I'm town though, then that is the worst idea I've ever heard.

Green: How do you even play like a wolf without being a wolf? I can't mislead you. I know nothing. I'm definitely not going to purposefully post stuff that I don't agree with (and I don't even do that as wolf!). My WIM is way to high for that.

Purple. No. It won't help town. I want to hear your "definition" of "playing wolfy" before commenting further, please.

you basically said, you want to model your town game, after your wolfgame if I remember correctly. So yes you can purposely play scummy.

Definition of playing wolfy is pretty big area. Everyone has different ways to wolf/ hunt for wolves. but I think the general consensus would be anything that isn't pro town.

Yes... but you don't know how I play wolf? Have we ever been scum together?

I'll tell you anyway: When I'm wolf, I play as if I'm town. I'm very capable of closing my mind and ignoring the fact that I'm actually wolf.

The only time I become an actual proper wolf, is when I see the wolves starting to go down and then try to play mind games.

That's not the case this time. This is also D1. Do you think I'm town, or do you think I'm wolf?

I really hate this response tbh.
I have been in a game when you were scum, and read games from when you were wolf. So yes I understand. The fact you are giving me your meta on how to read you as a wolf is concerning as well. This is the type of thing a wolf would do to try and cast deception.

With Besie almost everything she's posting initially pings me, but that's part of the positive, I think. She's a bit disconnected with the conversations--a lot of miscommunication, I mean, and I think she's a sort of careful wolf who will roll with being misunderstood if she thinks it looks better for her that way.

People who saw her last game should have some decent opinions on her slot by now. Thoughts?

I am confuse on how shad went from disliking besie, to town reading besie. the progression isn't there, or at least I did not see it.

With Besie almost everything she's posting initially pings me, but that's part of the positive, I think. She's a bit disconnected with the conversations--a lot of miscommunication, I mean, and I think she's a sort of careful wolf who will roll with being misunderstood if she thinks it looks better for her that way.

People who saw her last game should have some decent opinions on her slot by now. Thoughts?

she might have broken her streak *nods*

Thane please tell me how besie is town.

Statistically, Besie being wolf yet again would be insane (and one would have made a lot of money if there would have been bets on it)

on the other hand, she did want to break the new player scum streak record, and can be stubborn.....

Can you explain what you were trying to say about Bessie here? I am reading it two very different ways.I think because there seems to be some inconsistency between the bold and underlined.

I could just be readin it weird tho. But please clarify.

This was more of a joke than anything else. The underlined should have given it away. She has randed wolf in every previous game so far, and we were on the wolf team together last game.

seph · May 12, 2016

I think besie at best is null. She hasn't really done much to tell her alignment. Last game she was generally town in the beginning.

This post literally had no point :(

@ besie. I think your a wolf. I haven't seen you do much, or anything to actually help solve the game.
Maybe I am forgetting something, if I did I'll find it in my reread. But for now your one of my too lynch suspects for d1.

I think besie at best is null. She hasn't really done much to tell her alignment. Last game she was generally town in the beginning.
I actually strongly disagree with this. Last game I highly sussed her d1. She really didn't have to do anything though because the entire town jumped in to defend a wolf besie.

Penneh you are playing entirely different this game, and I don't really like it :(

You have to remember that she was hydra the previous game. She stepped in and went wild to defend their town honor after Gia made them sound like scum.

defense of penneh? noted. She contributed a bit more before that point though.

The above post alone practically guarantees town elrick. Havent read up yet, just saw that and wanted to comment.

Agreed.

Besie, my all-knowing sense on Shad (well, very strong gut here) is that he's town this game *nods*

I do hope you are too
Very well. You do have great gut reads. Both as town and as wolf.

To everyone missing the obvious, the last was a joke. Duh. Stop seeing trouble where there's none to be found.

Have you ever played with Town!Thane.....

Can't remember. I think not. Either way, I'm winging it.

Weird imo. Gave reasons for the town reads, only one of which was a real logical reason.

Her wolf reads are kinda eh. They are both wolf because one person trusts the other? Thats a one way relationship, so why does it make Darthe wolf? Like I could understand the Seph one cause buddying, but I dont see how it implicates Darthe

I don't hate this.

Besie, can you expand on your reasoning? I should tell you, though, trying to pocket me will not work :P

You're not pocketed already? Sadness.

Also, no. Not going to expand on it. See p12 for the furthest reaches of my explanation.

I dont recall seeing Scum!Besie making posts like this.

This post is pointless as well... you have never seen a town besie. I feel like your giving her to much of a pass. I don't have her as the most scummy anymore, but she isn't near town.

I feel good on nyn and Shad.
any raisins?
Shad cause he's playing like did last time and he was town there. Nyn because she's annoying as all hell and I love her.

Nah I was always bad at this game.

Oh ffs this is like my second town rand on DM in all of 2016. Gimme massive walls of content.
I don't like these posts. Verges in AtE. I really really dislike AtE.

I feel decent about Zander's posts so far.
What?... he's only posted lol's? ... what?

[v]Shad[/v]

That's a sudden flip. Would you say I've suddenly diverged from my town game? And how do you get that Zander has only posted lolololols at this point?

What I meant with lol's is useless posts. (No offence, Z). He hasn't posted much at all, and the few he did didn't say anything I (i!) count as alignment indicative. In fact, in my opinion he still hasn't posted the way that town!Zander would.

Snarky Besie likely Towny Besie

Scum!Besie isnt gonna draw my ire imo.

I

this is the exact same as the statement I made above.

@ besie. I think your a wolf. I haven't seen you do much, or anything to actually help solve the game.
Maybe I am forgetting something, if I did I'll find it in my reread. But for now your one of my too lynch suspects for d1.

I think besie at best is null. She hasn't really done much to tell her alignment. Last game she was generally town in the beginning.
I actually strongly disagree with this. Last game I highly sussed her d1. She really didn't have to do anything though because the entire town jumped in to defend a wolf besie.
Penneh you are playing entirely different this game, and I don't really like it :(
Am I? I didn't really see anything suspicious about besie until the time I roleblocked her. Isn't not doing much usually null though.

your right. but when there is 24 pages and you haven't commented on the game, I think its worrisome.

seph · May 12, 2016

can you tell me what changed your thought on zander exactly besie? I feel like I personally missed alot of his context early on. I know he has some posts I have yet to reach as well

The last few pages. He seemed quite his normal town self again.

can you give me any specifics?

Town

Turin

Eldrick

darthe

zander

slight town

lenlo

Nyn

null

kiv

dice

celeste

hallia

shad

besie

thane

seph · May 12, 2016

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Nynaeve · May 12, 2016

People who are probably villagers:

Zander

Turin

Eldrick

Seph

Besie? -- want to skim an ISO of her last game

Thane

My two cents. I like Eldrick and Seph. Besie too, for what I said earlier. Not sure what's making you uneasy about Kivam (did you say and I missed it?), but I like him for town. Zander has not pinged me in any way. But I'm not sold. I have my own way of reading him, so I'll get there. Null for now. As far as Turin, I liked him initially when the game kicked off but he sort of went a bit quiet and then his questions today were a bit bla. Thane feels a bit iffy, but I can't quite put my finger on it. I'll try to reread him tomorrow. The rest I dunno yet.

I do know that Celeste, dice and Halli need to post more. Sili needs to show up or be subbed out.

May 12, 2016

Your first post - seph, I'm not scum reading you. I've had you as town since page 6.

May 12, 2016

can you tell me what changed your thought on zander exactly besie? I feel like I personally missed alot of his context early on. I know he has some posts I have yet to reach as well
The last few pages. He seemed quite his normal town self again.

can you give me any specifics?

Euhm...no. Like, I want to, but not sure how? Let's just go with gut. Also try comparing the first 20 pages of his posts, to the last 5.

seph · May 12, 2016

mmk thanks besie

May 12, 2016

mmk thanks besie

Lenlo · May 12, 2016

Eh. I'd taken it as pretty strong disagreement.

Well anyway.

Where the heck has Dice been?

Well... It wasnt.

Lenlo could be town maybe.

Making me uneasy but wouldn't go there today:

Kivam

Nynaeve

Need more to even begin to form opinions:

Darthe

Celeste

Dice

Sili

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh:

Hallia

Im always town.

Celeste im questioning because she just isnt here. And that seems weird. Same for Hallia, but I always read her wrong.

I dont really care what you believe. I dont see why your bringing this up, as it doesnt seem relevant. It doesnt address how Darthe is wolf because of Shad. It actually completely moves the conversation.

Why, yes. Yes, it does.

Are you agreeing with me that you dont actually address my criticism and rather try to sidestep it or are you disagreeing with me without providing evidence to prove me wrong? One im ok with, the other is bad.

May 12, 2016

I'm agreeing that it is "moving the conversation". It was my thoughts on that page so the two paragraphs weren't linked at all.

dicetosser1 · May 12, 2016

Time to hire someone to decipher besie's hidden secrets.

Besie do you have any feels, one way or the other on anyone?

Her brain is a scary place....

Her brain is a wonderful place, you just need to know how to navigate it. With some booze, goat offerings and virgin blood, it's significantly easier, though.

I just snorted with laughter at this. I also really liked this entire post of yours, Thane. Imo you sound calm and collected. Not saying you weren't as scum; just saying imo it didn't feel too forced.

Statistically, Besie being wolf yet again would be insane (and one would have made a lot of money if there would have been bets on it)

on the other hand, she did want to break the new player scum streak record, and can be stubborn.....

All completely true. Unfortunately, my stubbornness has no effect on what Sooh randed for the players in this game.

Turin just sounds confused on p10. Are you okay? Yes, Dice was definitely joking about lynching me. But just sort of. Because I'm known for being wolf.

Bessie, if you actually randed town you would tell us, right?
I'd give you the same answer I would as wolf, yes.

Which is also the answer I gave you when we first played together.

From what I can tell, you were wolf in the game you are referring. Why bring it up? Why not a simple yes, instead of a "I'd say yes either way, wolf or not (refer to wolf game)"

Someone has answered this. I don't keep my town game great by learning from the times I'm wolf. I uphold my wolf game by making sure I play the same when I'm town.

but you havent BEEN town.

only on page 16 off to work

May 12, 2016

Exactly :laugh:

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