Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Turin Turambar]

Interesting...

[ReleaseTheEvil]

I'm here, at least for a bit. What would people like me to answer?

 

Zander is shouting a lot about progressing my views but I don't feel like content in thread has changed my views very much. Well, at least specifically not on him, and as my strongest scum read I don't see a reason for moving my vote. With each post I've tried to list players whose most recent interactions had me feel one way or another about them, moving them up or down the town-mafia continuum. Here's an updated reads list:

 

Turin

Lenlo

Alanna

Tsuki (admittedly, only because of his claim, not his content)

Eldrick

Rey

Hallia

 

BFG

Niniel

Shad

Dice

Zander

 

I guess I'd describe progression of my views as follows:

 

Hallia's vote-jumping in combination with her consensus posts  has her trending down on my list. John started off very strong but Hallia throwing her vote around and justifying it retrospectively is not doing her any favours in terms of looking town.

 

Turin's idea that Dice may in fact be a third party is an interesting claim. If we argue that it is likely that there is at least one third party player in the game, I would put Dice in that slot at this point. However, his early breadcrumbing of not being able to die (yes, I do understand how a treestump works, I just figure he took some liberties with that comment) does give some credence to his claim. That being said he may just trying to be staying alive as a survivor, which to me also seems quite plausible. Third party would make sense with his gameplay as well (staying out of Zander Turin voting, for example). 

 

I still do feel like Mafia are avoiding Zander and Turin, and as I said should Zander flip town I would look at people who didn't vote either of them. While mafia obviously will vote to lynch townies, if Zander flips town, and I believe Turin is town, then they stayed off the early trains and played it safe by not committing a vote to either that could be later used against them or invite scrutiny. That is why it is so important one of them dies today, because I think that will reflect in a meaningful way on a number of players. Furthermore, there are other people that the cop can use his view tonight to vet, such as Dice for instance. 

 

Finally, there is no one else I would lynch who I believe is more likely to be scum than Zander, and as I said, his or Turin's lynch would offer the most information this early in the game. I don't think the fact that I need to remember to check the thread and can't do so as easily on my phone, and that I've been quite busy and stressed in real life, is indicative of my alignment in the game. I am town. I am not revealing my role or identity. I think Mafia already have their hands full with potential kills tonight, don't need to give them any more information than they already have. I would also like to stress that Tsuki is only town IMO because of his claim. Nothing he has posted would get him out of the null category otherwise, and prior to his claim I had him as a scum read. While we don't have a CC, the real cop may just be playing it safe. Therefore prior to some evidence I would also treat him with some modest scrutiny. Hopefully he uses his PR to contribute more to the game in coming days. Finally, my nulls (in orange) is where I think the rest of the scum team are hiding. 

[Lenlo]

Dice I never said I believe your claim. I have been saying if your claim is true though, none of your given arguments have been good.

[alannalynn]

I wont be around today. I have a nagging feeling that Dice isn't wolf. Where does this put me?

 

[unvote]

 

idfk

[Eldrick4221]

Really good post from RTE, IMO

 

More of that, please.

 

And now I'm off to bed. I just got off work.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just over 4 hours to go.

[Turin Turambar]

UN-Official Vote Count - Day 1

Zander (4/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Niniel
RTE (5/7): Zander, Shad, Hallia, BFG, Dice
Dice (2/7): Lenlo, Eldrick

Not voting (2): Tsuki, Alanna

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 13 April @ 9 PM BST

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

Just over 4 hours to go

[Reyoru]

 

 

Rey who are you Wtl? Give me some reads while youre at it. I want to know what you're thinking about right now

Not gonna lie Alanna, I had to look up "WTL" in the mafia acronym thread.

 

I am willing to lynch Zander and Dice currently. 

 

Some reads? Lenlo and BFG have done marvellous jobs flying under the radar. Shad's defence of Eldrick has been notable. Eldrick's gunning for me is also notable. 

 

Hallia's flip-flop in voting comes across badly. Niniel is just null. RTE's reduced input reads null to scum, though his latest post above came across as sensible.

 

The only solid townie to me is Turin. 

 

You, Alanna read null to scum to me.

 

I kind of agree to most of what you said; Shad is also kind of scooting under the radar but I'm chocking that up to his other games. Unfortunately that means that he's slipping down my reads list at the moment. The only thing from Lenlo that's bothered me so far was something from the beginning of the game (I don't recall exactly what is was but I'd have to ISO me to see) and his change of tone after Dice claimed.

 

As for the red sections: do you think Zander and Dice are mafia exclusively of each other? Or that they're teammates?

 

(I have a follow up question if the latter)

 

Can you articulate why I'm scummy to you or case me? I want to help you clear me so we can move forward.

 

Do I think Zander and Dice are in cahoots? No, I don't see any evidence of that. I think they're independent. 

 

And I've already answered that the only thing I have against you is the timing of your vote on the Tsukibana wagon. That's it. We can "move forward" while we both harbour our suspicions about each other (just the way you're suspicious of me.)

 

People are sying im scarce, or flying under the radar when I have more posts then them, when ive been more engaged than them. Its pretty crap.

 

 

People are sying im scarce, or flying under the radar when I have more posts then them, when ive been more engaged than them. Its pretty crap.

Pretty sure Rey isn't reading the thread, if that makes you feel any better.

I am reading the thread - just because I prefer not to list my every thought in a wall of text doesn't mean I'm not keeping up. Also Alanna, you're nicely duplicitous here: in your first post above you agreed with me that Lenlo was flying under the radar. 

[Reyoru]

First off I dont care what you think of what I have to say.  Zander gonna Zander.  Deal.

 

But yes I do do a lot of talking and not all of it is easy to understand but you know, you could ask if you dont.

 

So 2 issues I have here: 

 

Do you think RTE and I are bussing each other? 

 

And if you don't believe Dice's claim then why are you still voting me?

You do a lot of talking. Trimming the quotes would be helpful.

 

RTE started off very suspicious to me, swooping in, but his last couple of posts have been reasonable to me. His last post (#1277) on the lynch being between you and Turin being the most useful was absolutely spot-on. You two have been the main theme of day 1, and you've taken polar opposite sides. Whatever the result of a lynch, we will have reams of information that will be useful to us, to see who sided with who, and who changed their minds on who. 

 

I don't believe Dice, and I've said so repeatedly, but Dice is more benign to me than you. I've said it before, I think Dice should be next for the lynch after you.

 

 

[Reyoru]

Side note: Rey keeps running away when I ask for a case on me? I'm like, his highest scum read and he's not even pushing me. Why not? Sus sus, y'all

Erm, when have I run away before? Or at all? And when did I say you're my highest scum read? I've been yelling Zander for ages? 

 

These are just straight up lies. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Just over 2 1/2 hours to go.

[alannalynn]

There's no movement happening. Either we're lynching villagers or nobody cares.

[Hallia]

I'm here. It could also be scum is scared to take a stance lest they get caught.

[alannalynn]

I'm not confident in my scum reads

[Turin Turambar]

They already may have flipped the lynch.

 

The RTE wagon pretty much just Passed up both the others.

[Hallia]

So Turin, do you think that bodes ill or well for RTE?

[Turin Turambar]

I'm not confident in my scum reads

do the best you can To choose the best choice. which is another way of saying follow me and lynch Z

[Turin Turambar]

I truly have no idea about RTE based on his own merits. But of the three he is my least favorite lynch.

 

I guess we will find out soon.

[Hallia]

[unvote]

[v] Zander [/v]

[alannalynn]

Of the three, most scummy to least imo is

 

Dice

Rte

Zander

 

But dice is a "ugh he might be town" option and it's seriously weighing on my mind.

 

At the same time, my town reads are on RTE lynch, so that makes me feel okay enough about that lynch.

 

But that doesn't resolve dice zander Turin

 

Idk

[alannalynn]

Hally, zander is town.

[alannalynn]

I'm going to lunch and then heading to library to do schoolwork.

 

I'll decide where to place my vote while eating. Right now it's between Rte and dice

[alannalynn]

We're not going to get any better info by eod unfortunately, so Rte/dice.

[alannalynn]

Frustrating

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count - Day 1

 

Zander (5/7): Turin, Rey, RTE, Niniel, Hallia

RTE (4/7): Zander, Shad, BFG, Dice

Dice (2/7): Lenlo, Eldrick

 

Not voting (2): Tsuki, Alanna

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to achieve a majority Lynch.

 

Day 1 deadline is set for Wednesday 13 April @ 9 PM BST

 

Day 1 Deadline Countdown

 

Just under 1 hour and 40 mins to go