Ghostbusters Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins!

[Turin Turambar]

Alanna, If you have to choose one of Dice or Eldrick to vote today, which one you voting???

[alannalynn]

(still unavailable for long answers and responses because I'm trying to finish a paper)

 

@Turin between Dice and Eldrick? UGH

 

If those were my only two choices, I'd vote Dice, purely because Eldrick is peeked and I was leaning town on him earlier in the game. If Eldrick WASN'T peeked, I would vote Eldrick due to some of his posts later this game which have made me go ???

[Eldrick4221]

Laine. Turin thinks you're scum. He reads through your ISO to find reasons to back his read.

 

Of course the response is going to be biased. That's your defense? Not even going to dispute anything he says about it, just going to point out that it's biased? (Which isn't scummy, btw. It's impossible to reread without thinking about what your read on them already is and go "does this fit?")

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

Official Vote Count

 

Alanna (1): Turin

Nikon (1): Sooh

Turin (2): Alanna, Dice

Dice (1): Tsuki,

 

 

Not Voting (3): Niniel, Nikon, Eldrick

 

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to Lynch

 

 

Day 4 Deadline is 9pm BST Wednesday 27 April - you can achieve a majority Lynch at any point before then.

 

End of Day 4

 

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Additional Vote about Night Deadlines - Vote in BLUE please

 

I'd like Night to only last till 9PM BST the next day after a Lynch

 

Yes (5): Eldrick, Turin, Dice, Alanna, Sooh

 

No (0):

 

Not voting yet (3): Nikon, Tsuki, Niniel

 

 

 

The motion does appear to be carried :)

[Eldrick4221]

I'm gonna go find somewhere with wifi and start digging through some isos. I'm pretty sure atp there's at least one scum in Laine, Dice, Turin.

 

And I don't think it's Turin, but haven't looked over his iso yet.

[Niniel]

Hi guys! I´m so sorry but I won´t be playing today. I´ve had a horrible day and I´m exhausted. It´s just impossible to focus enought to re-read anything. I will try to do more tomorrow.

 

General thoughts. Still need to re-read Nikon. Does anyone find it strange that we have two, but only two, vanillas? 

 

I think I need to re-read Laine and Turin as well. I´ve had them as "clear" town that I haven´t bothered to re-read their posts. 

 

Right now I´m not sure if I should trust any claims at all. Tsuki looked better when Shad turned out to have a rb and if he looks good then Eld should too.

 

 

Turin asked me to claim and since I´m the only one that hasn´t I better. I won´t get targeted anyway with all (possible) town roles outed. 

 

I´m a bomb. The Taxi Driver Ghost. 

[alannalynn]

Laine. Turin thinks you're scum. He reads through your ISO to find reasons to back his read.

 

Of course the response is going to be biased. That's your defense? Not even going to dispute anything he says about it, just going to point out that it's biased? (Which isn't scummy, btw. It's impossible to reread without thinking about what your read on them already is and go "does this fit?")

Eldrickkkk I'm at schooollll since 8ammmmmm and it's almost twoooo and I'm still hereee working on a group projecttttttt

 

but I assure you, I'll wholeheartedly enjoy going through his ISO of me when I'm finished deciphering what the hell my groupmate was trying to say in his portion of the paper >_> 

[alannalynn]

HAHAHA another ghost. Turin and Tsuki probably want to lynch this one too

[Tsukibana]

So says Nini:

[Tsukibana]

... when I'm finished deciphering what the hell my groupmate was trying to say in his portion of the paper >_> 

 

Why I despise group projects...

[alannalynn]

 

... when I'm finished deciphering what the hell my groupmate was trying to say in his portion of the paper >_> 

 

Why I despise group projects...

His run-on sentences are whole paragraphs, and his sentence starters are repetitive. I'm glad I have until 10pm to turn this thing in because omg.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Laine. Turin thinks you're scum. He reads through your ISO to find reasons to back his read.

 

Of course the response is going to be biased. That's your defense? Not even going to dispute anything he says about it, just going to point out that it's biased? (Which isn't scummy, btw. It's impossible to reread without thinking about what your read on them already is and go "does this fit?")

Eldrickkkk I'm at schooollll since 8ammmmmm and it's almost twoooo and I'm still hereee working on a group projecttttttt

 

but I assure you, I'll wholeheartedly enjoy going through his ISO of me when I'm finished deciphering what the hell my groupmate was trying to say in his portion of the paper >_>

I don't follow. You read enough to call it biased, but that was your only concern with what he said.

 

[V]Laine [/v]

 

Gonna get off my butt and head to somewhere with wifi now. It's been a lazy morning cuz it's my day off.

[Eldrick4221]

Hi guys! I´m so sorry but I won´t be playing today. I´ve had a horrible day and I´m exhausted. It´s just impossible to focus enought to re-read anything. I will try to do more tomorrow.

 

General thoughts. Still need to re-read Nikon. Does anyone find it strange that we have two, but only two, vanillas?

 

I think I need to re-read Laine and Turin as well. I´ve had them as "clear" town that I haven´t bothered to re-read their posts.

 

Right now I´m not sure if I should trust any claims at all. Tsuki looked better when Shad turned out to have a rb and if he looks good then Eld should too.

 

 

Turin asked me to claim and since I´m the only one that hasn´t I better. I won´t get targeted anyway with all (possible) town roles outed.

 

I´m a bomb. The Taxi Driver Ghost.

There's been 2 vt claims and laine is kinda a 3rd. She claimed to not have a NA

[Eldrick4221]

And being one of the claimed vt, I don't understand why you think it's an issue.

[alannalynn]

But it IS biased. I can read something and formulate responses for later, trust me, I do it all the time.

 

My problem with it being biased is that he's tunneling on me and is becoming/is already incapable of seeing me as town.

 

Like, I understand doing an ISO and saying "well she treated Shad like ____ here and that's really scummy as teammates" but you also have to say "she treated Shad like ____, as town this could also make sense because _____" If you're not willing to see all sides of an action, you shouldn't be commenting on it because you're backing yourself into a corner where all you can see is red and at the end of the day that leads to a mislynch.

 

ALSO, I can still be present in thread and not have to give lengthy responses to an ISO until I have time to do so. A post like THIS takes all of a minute. Reading the posts as they appear to keep caught up with thread, takes all of a minute. Answering section by section as to why I think a case against me is flawed and biased takes, well, a lot longer because of formatting and pulling quotes and researching. So, you can't really fault me for that.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Dice, quote me something that feels slimey to you.

 

I want today's lynch to be ME, Alanna or Dice. I've been willing to die since D1 when I thought I had Zander as mafia. I already caught my mafia in Shad. If I need to die to make sure that These two go down I am willing.

 

I think that both of them are mafia. I have for a while. Look at Alanna's "progression" of Shad. Look ata Dice's on me. Both are unnatural.

 

So either lynch me or lynch mafia. What is better for town???

I highly doubt you actually want today's lynch to be you lol

 

As for sliminess, you're coming off slimey. You're trying to discount our cop, you're trying to structure the thread so that nobody is clear, and place doubt in conf townies. That's just slimy and bad feeling.

 

And yet you keep harping on how you lynched scum but at the end of that day that doesn't always mean everything. I tried to lynch the symp d1 and did it d2, then I lynched Shad d3 (granted, I waffled a bit) but I'm not talking up THAT, I'm confident in how much I've contributed will clear me enough not to be the lynch.

 

My progression on Shad has been explained. I was suspicious of him early game like I always am, because it's Shad. I knew he was in the Anni game (which I was reading) so I gave him some leeway because the game was such high volume. By the time he came back/was killed off over there, I expected something MORE from Shad, I expected him to get involved. He didn't, I pushed him on that, he pitched a fit about it and seemed hurt so I backed off a little and second guessed myself. By the time his lynch was into full swing I contemplated that town!Shad would have shown himself by now, wolf!Shad is just giving excuses. I reread his ISO, and hammered him. Make no mistake that I know how my progression looks, trust me. BUT, you can see a similar progresssion on Lenlo who was inactive/dropped off this game. I also gave him a leeway because I know what it's like to be in the last few weeks/last days of school and things are stressful and hard right now. I appealed to him and got nothing. He ended up getting replaced out; I'm still waiting for Nikon to totally impress me.

Reads to me like you are saying nikon subbed in for Lenlo. You have your facts mixed up.

[Eldrick4221]

But it IS biased. I can read something and formulate responses for later, trust me, I do it all the time.

 

My problem with it being biased is that he's tunneling on me and is becoming/is already incapable of seeing me as town.

 

Like, I understand doing an ISO and saying "well she treated Shad like ____ here and that's really scummy as teammates" but you also have to say "she treated Shad like ____, as town this could also make sense because _____" If you're not willing to see all sides of an action, you shouldn't be commenting on it because you're backing yourself into a corner where all you can see is red and at the end of the day that leads to a mislynch.

 

ALSO, I can still be present in thread and not have to give lengthy responses to an ISO until I have time to do so. A post like THIS takes all of a minute. Reading the posts as they appear to keep caught up with thread, takes all of a minute. Answering section by section as to why I think a case against me is flawed and biased takes, well, a lot longer because of formatting and pulling quotes and researching. So, you can't really fault me for that.

Then I await your response to his comments against you when you have the time.

[alannalynn]

Lol wrong person. Sooh replaced Lenlo --> jailkeeper ;;  but that doesn't negate how I treated Lenlo, which was the point of the post

 

I AM still waiting on Nikon to impress me, carry on the feel I got from BFG.

 

thanks for the correction Eldrick. I barely keep players straight, much less subs.

[Eldrick4221]

One of the big things in laine's favor is she helped me figure out shad. I haven't decided yet if that was a ploy between the two of them because he knows I read him badly, or if it was genuine help.

[Eldrick4221]

Or more to say it feels like genuine help, but them I got paranoid that it was a ploy.

[alannalynn]

What do you mean I helped you figure out shad? I don't remember what happened two hours ago, much less yesterday/the other day/last week .

[Eldrick4221]

One of the things that helped me realize was you mentioning that he was dead in the other game and should be contributing more here.

 

That's a weird thing to bring attention to if you're his teammate.

[alannalynn]

One of the things that helped me realize was you mentioning that he was dead in the other game and should be contributing more here.

 

That's a weird thing to bring attention to if you're his teammate.

Ahh yeah you're right. I started pushing him more at that point to get involved, iirc

[Turin Turambar]

Except Alanna never really pushed Shad. She just voted him at the end. All along the way she was unsure and didn't want to lynch him.

[alannalynn]

Turin do you know what you would be saying if I voted him straight out the gate? Busing.

 

There's fool proof way to vote mafia. Waffling as town can show contemplation and wanting to make the right decision. Waffling as scum may show that someone doesn't want their partner lynched. Voting quickly as town may be misconstrued as scum. Voting quickly as scum is clearly busing.

 

My point is that I explained my progression on Shad. I said it was waffly. I said WHY it was waffly. And I believe my reasoning was a pretty townie response to a player that I'm familiar with and think is a great asset to town... when he's town. That I continued to hesitate to put him in my scum reads and push him over Rey is failing of mine and that kinda sucks, but it is what it is and at this point my course of action is to explain myself and find a better lynch candidate.