[Basic] Bolshevik Mafia - TOWN WINS

[BFG]

And still processing Laine's posts. With a couple of exceptions I like her reads list (Manbat/Sooh, who would both be null for me, although for opposite reasons), although I wish some of the generic statements were fleshed out, which responses of Turins did you like? The only thing quoted is a -ve.

 

Also not sure what to make of her statement about me to Darthe, I know my nitpicky questions frustrate her sometimes but asking people to qualify/quantify reads/votes isn't nitpicky, unless we have different definitions lol.

[Calder]

Sorry guys. Completely forgot that this was prob started until last night and had to work to late to get on. Busy morning, but will try to read up as soon as I can.

[Sooh]

 

part 2

 

 

 

Hallia, I dont see at all why my asking how Seer Cover works says my peek is fake. I also dont understand why its bad, considering in an open game like this, from what I was taught, protecting the seer is very very important.

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

IO dont understand how you can have such a strong read of Hallia at this point

No, I had like instant regrets after the last few posts. 

 

Can I take back my pretty green?

 

 

 

 

Which she has waffled on.

 

Sooh, what did you dislike?

Your progression on Darthe mainly is what I disagree with right now. I don't see what you see, therefore I would like to hold off on clearing you too much just yet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hallia, I dont see at all why my asking how Seer Cover works says my peek is fake. I also dont understand why its bad, considering in an open game like this, from what I was taught, protecting the seer is very very important.

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

IO dont understand how you can have such a strong read of Hallia at this point

No, I had like instant regrets after the last few posts. 

 

Can I take back my pretty green?

 

Did she even post anything before those posts?  Btw your Turin read seems out of place too

 

I read her first posts, nodded to townie Hallia, then posted my reads. She posted more, instant regrets.

 

 

 

 

Now this?  This is a progression.  And it's an odd one.  Sooh went from strong town to take Hally off the list in the span of 20 posts based on one read that didn't develop from the first post.  

 

Sooh, in your shoes I'd call that a pickle.

 

Did you happen to see the post where I explained that I had taken her from dark to light green? I never took her off the list. I took her down a notch. Nobody bothered enough to ask.

[Sooh]

I kind of expected Eldrick to make more of a read on me before a vote. This seems lazy.

 

I have no issues with Hallia, because she is a bit of a loose gun like that in my opinion, and Darthe is Darthe. He will Darthe 'till the cows come home.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Laine (1): manbat

Eldrick (1): Lenlo

Calder (1): Zander

Sooh (3): Hallia, Darthe, Eldrick

manbat (1): Turin

 

Not Voting: BFG, Calder, Kronos, Laine, Sooh, Thane

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[Zander?]

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

 

How well do you read Hallia Sooh?

 

I feel I read her quite well but even I dont have her this high thus far.

[Zander?]

 

Which she has waffled on.

 

Sooh, what did you dislike?

Your progression on Darthe mainly is what I disagree with right now. I don't see what you see, therefore I would like to hold off on clearing you too much just yet.

 

 

What about it dont you like?

 

I think its safe to say the same irt to your progression on Hallia,

[Turin Turambar]

[V] Manbat [/v]

 

Don't like his voting Alanna for saying she wasn't gonna be super goat due to rl and then he turned around and said he would not be townie until end game or sommat to that effect.

[Zander?]

 

 

Hallia, I dont see at all why my asking how Seer Cover works says my peek is fake. I also dont understand why its bad, considering in an open game like this, from what I was taught, protecting the seer is very very important.

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

IO dont understand how you can have such a strong read of Hallia at this point

No, I had like instant regrets after the last few posts. 

 

Can I take back my pretty green?

 

Did she even post anything before those posts?  Btw your Turin read seems out of place too

 

 

I thought she may have made a TMI slip with him, she claimed him as her peek iirc,

 

 

Len, reads are not in order from most to least townie.

 

But the coloring states otherwise.

[Zander?]

 

Len, reads are not in order from most to least townie.

They are in order of color though, and shes still a solid green,

 

 

Lenlo looking quite Towny thus imo.

[Zander?]

 

 

I believe so. possibly even in the same post.

 

I also think that he will become obvious as mafia if he is so I'm not putting much into this.

 

A lot of this imo.

 

Turin likely town

 

Raisins?

 

BFG you came in like a Boss in Cory's off site came.  This vagueness is not what I expect from you.

 

Because mafia! Turin is more conciliatory with people he isn't pushing. He's being pretty direct with you, while in Chronos was pretty buddyish with everyone who pushed him.

 

What do you mean by vagueness?

 

 

Youve dropped reads with no reasons.

 

Real talkin real?

 

Eldrick

Lenlo

Zander 

Thane

Manbat

 

all townies.  Manbat barely made that list tho so don't trust me on it

 

BFG

Laine

Kronos

 

possible wolves

 

the rest of you I've yet to decide on.

I think you're at best one for three on that list

 

 

Which one iyo?

[monstrman]

 

 

Awwwwwwwwwww

You're one of those aren't you?

Without knowing who you mean by one of those, I'm probably. going to agree anywayWhat's your current opinion on Manbat?

Charming and bold imo

[monstrman]

[V] Manbat [/v]

Don't like his voting Alanna for saying she wasn't gonna be super goat due to rl and then he turned around and said he would not be townie until end game or sommat to that effect.

This is a mischaracterization of what I said

 

I said I wasn't going to be obvious

[monstrman]

I also have the capacity to up it at any time if you want to thunderdome me

 

But it prolly won't benefit the village at all if you do

[Darthe]

Two things I noticed worth talking about. Darthe voted kronos without unvoting. When it was pointed out that he needed to unvote first, and asked why he didn't, he ignored it. He hasn't given a reason as to why he didn't correct the situation.

 

Other thing is Sooh's early green read on Hally. It doesn't make sense with the content Hally had already provided. There was nothing in that imo that would give a read other than null. Only reason to not be a null read would be a peek, and Sooh's read on Hally doesn't fit a peek either.

 

[unvote]

[V]Sooh [/v]

It's difficult to maintain a town read on you when your critiaue of me is answered T the top of the page you post it on.

[monstrman]

Another read people will hate incoming!!

 

Alanna and Kronos are never w/w because wolves don't peek their partners

[Darthe]

 

Real talkin real?

 

Eldrick

Lenlo

Zander

Thane

Manbat

 

all townies. Manbat barely made that list tho so don't trust me on it

 

BFG

Laine

Kronos

 

possible wolves

 

the rest of you I've yet to decide on.

Disagree with most of this, Darthey.

 

Skipped Hally's catch up, too many quotes, not readable.

I get discouraged when people take my every word seriously. It's actually really tilting for those of you who've played with me long enough to know better.

This is pretty much how you deal with Cory too. He's like 20% serious and 80% jokes.

 

#453 Darthe "Much like Laine, when I think Sooh is town she tends to be a wolf and vice versa" False. And Sooh can be rather townie as town too, so that doesn't always hold true. Darthe, how many recent games have you played with me where I was a wolf? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that you just can't read me? LOL

What do you disagree with?

 

Also, are you telling me that my thought is false? Because I assure you, I typed exactly what I thought.

[monstrman]

As far as her big post it was okay I guess

 

Im slightly surprised at being townread by you Laine because my push of you is wolfy so I think I need you to elaborate on that one

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Hallia, I dont see at all why my asking how Seer Cover works says my peek is fake. I also dont understand why its bad, considering in an open game like this, from what I was taught, protecting the seer is very very important.

 

Quick list:

 

Turin

 

Zander

Hallia

Darthe

Lenlo

 

Monstr

Eldrick

 

Everyone else

IO dont understand how you can have such a strong read of Hallia at this point

 

No, I had like instant regrets after the last few posts. 

 

Can I take back my pretty green?

 

 

So what about these posts made you read Hallia as town?

 

 

 

 

Happy Easter all!

 

I'm celebrating in the best of ways: at Six Flags!

 

So I'll be scarce today.

 

 

I peeked Zander

 

 

 

Villa ldo!

 

 

 

Wolf has done that ever since we started playing years ago. It is exactly null.

 

 

Will be home soon, phone almost dead at the in laws house.

 

Nothing. It was #401 and #406.

 

 

It only took you 23 min and 2 posts to make this solid of a read on her???

 

What about these posts did you like and why?

 

Which of the posts after didnt you like and why?

[Darthe]

Another read people will hate incoming!!

 

Alanna and Kronos are never w/w because wolves don't peek their partners

Some of them do, but these posts are generally useless. Tru starting with individual reads and working your way up.

[Darthe]

Quick reads list since I have a moment before I try to sleep again...

 

Alanna

Kronos

Monstr

Turin

Lenlo

BFG

Hally

Darthe

Calder

Thane

 

Eldrick

Sooh

Zander

 

I'm really not that confident in my reads yet, I feel like there hasn't been a lot to go off of, just the same "why did you vote x, I don't like that, you only do xyz as wolf, yadda yadda yadda". Basically, there hasn't been a lot of substance and that bothers me as far as D1 goes. As for noting my list, Kronos is my peek, Monstr is giving me good feels. Turin, though I didn't agree with some of his pushes, his responses have been solid enough. Lenlo and BFG slightest town reads because their posts didn't make me want to throw my laptop at the wall. The huge null section either made me want to throw my computer at the wall, has given me no leans thus far, or hasn't posted at all. Nulls are mostly un-ordered. I really really hate having Zander as my lowest read but there is something off and his pushes are not coming off to me as genuine enough. I'm also having a hard time following some of his arguments because they don't make logical sense and I know he knows better than to try and put a square peg in a round hole.

Its difficult to not view you as a wolf when you already have reads on everyone and are tossing several of the most active players in with people who havent posted.

 

We call that disingenuous

[Darthe]

And still processing Laine's posts. With a couple of exceptions I like her reads list (Manbat/Sooh, who would both be null for me, although for opposite reasons), although I wish some of the generic statements were fleshed out, which responses of Turins did you like? The only thing quoted is a -ve.

 

Also not sure what to make of her statement about me to Darthe, I know my nitpicky questions frustrate her sometimes but asking people to qualify/quantify reads/votes isn't nitpicky, unless we have different definitions lol.

Totally annoys me, but if your method is to say "why" to everything then ill grit through it like I do with my four year old cousin

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Ok, lets keep this simple

 

Why did you vote Turin?

 

Why are you ignoring the 3/4(?) people who have asked you this question?

I think it's just been you asking it over and over.  Maybe Hally too.

 

The answer remains the same as it is for most of my actions in the game so far.  I wanted to at that moment.  Further, I couldn't give two ****s about my vote yet.  

 

I have a question as well.  Why do your questions suck so much?  They lack depth or interest.  They're the 6th grade homework assignment of mafia questions, the tropic slamming expected of a green player.  

 

Also, the continuous use of the word "why" is in poor taste don't you think?  They actually train psychologists to avoid the word why because it always implies judgement.  Consider the difference between "Why is the trash in the house?" and "What's the reason for the trash being in the house?".  It's quite substantial, so when i see someone exclusively leaning on why questions I tend to assess them as someone who is trying to create pressure where it doesn't exist.  

 

I really do wish you had better questions.

 

I have literally no idea what you mean by your issue with the use of the word why

 

I think Kronos/Manbat/myself/maybe Hallia have questioned the reasons for your votes, the reason I'm repeating the question is because you're not answering. And at this stage the not answering is more interesting than the answer to the actual question. It's not the most interesting question in the world of ALL TIME, but I'm curious as to why you've avoided answering given that voting is one of the easiest things to hold people accountable for

 

it's boring and I would rather be lynched than be bored.  You're frankly annoying me with it at this point given that it's understood that I vote at near random or for incredibly base reasons in parts of D1 and yet you continue to belabor this point.  ARE YOU SATISFIED YOU PLIGHT OF MY SOUL?

 

 

Darthe this is a strange look from you, the AtE type posts, self describing Meta read off to me.  I dont feel BFG's questions were bad, and ov they werent too bad as others have asked you as well.

[monstrman]

 

Another read people will hate incoming!!

Alanna and Kronos are never w/w because wolves don't peek their partners

Some of them do, but these posts are generally useless. Tru starting with individual reads and working your way up.

They're not worthless to me

 

I never call any of your posts worthless and I could very easily pick out many, this being one of them so

[Sooh]

Zander, when you're all caught up, can you shoot me a message with the stuff you're still wondering about, because I feel like i have responded to most of your "Why?" posts already.