[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

Turin Turambar · February 26, 2016

That's reasonable AJ.

Do you think Tina or dice come out looking better of their exchange?

My opinion I think is obvious.

Turin Turambar · February 26, 2016

we still looking for subs?

found some

better to look for subs than to have subs looking for you :wink:

Thane Vakarian · February 26, 2016

we still looking for subs?

found some

better to look for subs than to have subs looking for you

:laugh:

Andrej · February 26, 2016

I'm not staunchly against lynching either, if that's what you're asking. I think I've been pretty clear on Tina, at least. I don't really have an opinion on their opening banter outside of what I already said.

I have noted that Dice doesn't seem as 'serious' you could say but I'm not sure that translates into him being scum. I thought he responded well to some stuff though, if more in depth than I would usually expect.

Turin Turambar · February 26, 2016

Fair enough.

Thane, You are voting Tina. What makes you think she is the best option for today?

Thane Vakarian · February 26, 2016

Is there ever a best option for D1?

At this point, I find it odd that she interacts with other people than the one person she quoted. Yes, she did reply to it, but for me, it didn't really seem enough to be able to clear her. in this instant, she feels worse to me.

Maybe she'll come back in and interact, which i hope, so we'd be able to clear her... or not.

Turin Turambar · February 26, 2016

Tina:

Hi!

[v] Dice [/v]

I haven´t seen you in a long time.

Tina votes Dice for what I can only assume is a joke. My biggest concern about tTna is that her vote is still here without now offering a reason. (I think there is like 13.5 hours until DL as of my post)

@ Dice

Sounds good. We´ll see if I can read you this game or not.

I remember you saying that you figured out AJ from just one post in a game. I´m going to bed now but I can read your AJ analysis when I return tomorrow. :)

Here is where she asks him for his AJ take. It looks like a joke. Tina what do you think of Dice's AJ read?

[v]Tina[/v]

Buddying Leelou

Nolder votes Tina for "buddying". bad vote IMO. I mainly quoted this tho because it is literally the immediate post above Tina's next post.

How is my post different than others in the game. For example Dice answer to my vote?

hi Tina hugs hows u?

Do i have to lynch you this game?

Why did you decide to vote me?

Tina asking Nolder why he voted her instead of Dice for buddying. I originally misread this so I can understand some confusion about it. But once I realised that Tina was replying to the post immediately above hers it make a lot of sense and is a good question. Moreso to me now as I found Dice's buddying to Tina to be more ping worthy than Tina and Leelou being friendly / jokey / pick a word for it.

Again, I think Tina is >>rand to be town here. Her questions make sense to me. The only issues I really have with her is that she is still voting Dice without giving a solid reason for it and that she hasn't been in thread today when I thought she said she was off this week. (I'm giving a bit of a pass on that because I have been very busy of late myself)

Thane Vakarian · February 26, 2016

I guess we'll find out, won't we? I'll agree to disagree with you on Tina, for now. I'll try to be around the rest of the day, though I don't think DL is possible for me.

Niniel · February 26, 2016

I'm here now. Planned to be yesterday but I fell asleep when I put my daughter to sleep. :D. I have read anything but not taken any notes so I will re-read to see what I want to comment on. My internet on the computer disappeared yesterday so it will take some time to do it on phone.

Thane Vakarian · February 26, 2016

your internet disappeared? Did you try google to find where it might have gone?

Turin Turambar · February 26, 2016

Thane, there is ALWAYS a best option. Mistakes may be made but we gotta do our best. DL is 2300 for me too so I may/may not be here then.

Hi Tina, get your thoughts together and let us know what you are thinking.

Turin Turambar · February 26, 2016

I gotta go do some tidying so I'll be away for a bit.

Thane Vakarian · February 26, 2016

Players are free to disagree about that best option though, right?

I gotta do tidying when i get home, still 2 hours at work. glgl

Nolder · February 26, 2016

Bro, you quoted it as your example for how I was agreeing with you.

Zander asked me why I bothered me, so I reiterated for like the second or third time.

You're referring to this?

Earlier when I asked Turin if he had any reads he said he had Tina as a town lean because "she was asking real questions" I didn't really probe at the time but after looking at her post again to fact check myself in case I was the one mistaken regarding Nolder's argument, I realized what Turin was talking about. The question actually is pretty sharp and it's something I'd like Nolder to answer.

The timing bugged me, as I've said. It also a little meta based because I don't think Tina is particularly comfortable playing as scum and I've caught her before in the past after awkward exchanges. It just weirded me out, I really can't explain it better.

So, and correct me if I'm wrong here, it was mainly the timing of Tina's post that made you think she would be a good wagon?

What exactly about the timing was weird? And why didn't you vote her?

Niniel · February 26, 2016

Okay. Read it all. Will probably split the post.

Thane - I've used up my internet for this month. Or it's probably my daughters fault. Yes, I will blame her.

First, what I have thought about the things concerning myself and what followed.

I voted Dice. He answered with a hug and some chatting. Leelou voted me and I answered with a hug. Nolder then voted me for buddying Leelou. I asked him why he picked me since others could have been seen buddying and I pointed at Dice since he did the same with me. Nolder has still not answered that question. He came back and said that I hadn't reacted to his vote. Which is wrong since I explained it all to Turin after my post that I posted right after Nolder. Nolder asked everyone to vote me.

At the same time AJ didn't like that I asked Dice to give me his thoughts about AJ. Dice has bragged about how he found out AJ after just one post earlier, which I told AJ when I got back. He felt it was weird and random. AJ said my response was 1) fair but 2) still thought it was strange. I really don't know what that means. If he thinks it's fair he should have dropped it? It's like saying okay but not okay. He later said that I pinged but that he will give me time since he is confident that he will read me well.

When Nolder came back he said that Nolder was wrong, I had responded to him. Still he could get behind my wagon. ( So I guess my answer wasn't fair and he was tired waiting for me so he could get a better read?) Nolder accused him on protecting me and wanting to vote me at the same time. He then voted AJ instead. AJ said he had a light suss on me but wanted to keep voting Verb until he got some answers from him. He said that he was suspicious of me because of asking Dice to read him, not because I buddies Leelou and didn't answer Nolder.

Okay, that is it. What I take from this is that Nolder isn't reading the thread carefully. And he doesn't seem to be interested in reading back when others have corrected him. I find that a bit of annoying. If it's scummy I don't know.

I don't like AJ holding me in the spotlight, like a back up vote if there will be a train on me. He seem to find reasons not to vote me but hangs on to me "being weird". Scummy.

Will continue in next post.

Niniel · February 26, 2016

Dice: I find him scummy. The only thing he has done so far is joking about voting Zander and given "spot reads" and then clarifying/defending spot reads. After my request he agreed with AJ that it was a bit weird. Later he had him as townish because of town. In a vague way. When Turin asked if it was because of certain posts he said it was more the tone. I get that spot reads means tone reads but it felt like he brought him up just because I asked him and with the vague " townish". I don't know how to explain this but it felt he felt forced to say something because of my request.

AJ has said Dice looks town but recently he said to Turin that he is not against a Tina or a Dice lynch. Maybe that says more about AJ? Anyway, Dice is suspect for not doing much although posting.

Turin: I have a strong town lean on Turin. He tried to understand me and have asked a lot of good questions.

Thane: I don't understand his vote on me. Is it a pressure vote for me to get back to the game? Will he unvote now that I'm here? I'm not really getting a scummy feeling because scumThane are usually more spammy as mafia. He could of course have changed his play.

Verbal: suspect because of posting without contributing. Asking a lot about spot reads but the answers doesn't seem to get him anywhere.