[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Eldrick4221]

I'm gonna watch stuff, but I'm gonna check in periodically to see what's going on.

[Eldrick4221]

 

was just thinking thats the current todo and the main train   if u calll two people a train

Thanks. Maybe I'll look into it idk.

Just sitting here thinking about how I can fix the mess I'm in and be useful.

 

 

Have you at least read everything once?

[Nolder]

 

 

was just thinking thats the current todo and the main train   if u calll two people a train

Thanks. Maybe I'll look into it idk.

Just sitting here thinking about how I can fix the mess I'm in and be useful.

 

 

Have you at least read everything once?

 

No man. I have probably read less than 50 posts ITT.

That's what I'm saying. 

 

Maybe I'll just power through and reread and this will be the last game I play on DM for awhile.

I can't keep doing these 100 page Day 1's that move 20+ pages per day and all that.

They take a lot out of me and it's like every game now.

[Zander?]

 

How is it flawed?

 

You've made it clear you don't understand, He's tried to explain. I'll give it a shot.

 

Everyone likes to believe their town game and mafia game are the same. He believes it is. Asking someone how their own game differs is pointless.

 

You should make your judgement on him by what he does in this game, not how it compares to other games. Unless someone else has insight on how he plays. your question  to him didn't help anything.

 

 

have you even read the original reasons i had for voting him in the first place?

 

this part your referring to just proves he does the emotional stuff as both alignments

[dicetosser1]

nol  there has been some talk about people  like bfg running small games for the quieter cant keep up players in the future 

[Sooh]

 

Like hang on, let me be scum monstr for one second and ask you why on earth I would ever tell you "No I only overreact as town" and then you can ask me that question again with a straight face.

 

WHY WOULD SCUM MONSTR EVER TELL YOU "NO I ONLY OVERREACT AS TOWN"

 

ERGO THE QUESTION IS POINTLESS

 

I think what Monstr is saying is that it's pointless to lie about your meta because that's something that can be checked for fact anyway, and because of that your question was pointless.

[Sooh]

Zander I must say you do tunnel a lot as town from what I have seen in Rustlemania and the escape game.

He tunnels a lot as any alignment, it's just that as scum his tunnels are more focused on one player.

[Sooh]

Aaand up to here.

 

I honestly don't know about Monstr. I can't tell alignment YET, but from the way I remember him before I can't say I've seen anything scummy in his posts. If there is, somebody has to point that out to me. I'm not ISOing yet (I don't have time tbh).

 

Shad has a few posts that make me nod in agreement, but he has also had a few posts that have really puzzled me. I find my read of him fluctuating depending on whether I nodded or shook my head last time I read one of his posts, and this worries me. I usually peg Shad from the beginning (though he has fooled me as scum before).

 

Dice, if you're still around. What are your opinions on Shad/Monstr? Other people can feel free to chip in as well.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

was just thinking thats the current todo and the main train   if u calll two people a train

Thanks. Maybe I'll look into it idk.

Just sitting here thinking about how I can fix the mess I'm in and be useful.

 

 

Have you at least read everything once?

 

No man. I have probably read less than 50 posts ITT.

That's what I'm saying. 

 

Maybe I'll just power through and reread and this will be the last game I play on DM for awhile.

I can't keep doing these 100 page Day 1's that move 20+ pages per day and all that.

They take a lot out of me and it's like every game now.

 

Maybe just start from day 1. It might be nice to have a perspective that isn't clogged with D0. See if it makes a difference.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

How is it flawed?

 

You've made it clear you don't understand, He's tried to explain. I'll give it a shot.

 

Everyone likes to believe their town game and mafia game are the same. He believes it is. Asking someone how their own game differs is pointless.

 

You should make your judgement on him by what he does in this game, not how it compares to other games. Unless someone else has insight on how he plays. your question  to him didn't help anything.

 

 

have you even read the original reasons i had for voting him in the first place?

 

this part your referring to just proves he does the emotional stuff as both alignments

 

No. I don't remember you mentioning a reason.

 

Would you mind repeating it for me? If not, i can go dig it up.

[dicetosser1]

im leaning town on monstr     as i said i cant read him but he made efforts to help me with that  i cant say hes said anything scummy  but i am not taiking the ATE either way

 

 

 

shad    im scratching my head  im not totally getting why he is going at monstr

[Eldrick4221]

This is such a unique experience. Still scum hunting, but not able to pressure with votes.

 

The best I can do is point out anything that catches my eye. Convince someone else to vote where I think the lynch should go without actually being able to participate.

 

Calder is still bugging me. I don't care if it's his MO. Its annoying, and can easily be scum hiding behind well-known "scummy town!Calder actions"

 

Zander is probably town ;)

 

Feeling good about Hally. Not seeing the weird that others are. She feels like what I expect Town!Hally to be.

 

I still want to know what the reasons were for suspecting Snow. It's still relevant why you  guys felt the way you did.

 

I'm feeling good about Lenlo, too. While his actions against me were wrong, they did feel they way they did in Ragnarok, and he was town there.

 

That's all I have so far.

[Sooh]

im leaning town on monstr     as i said i cant read him but he made efforts to help me with that  i cant say hes said anything scummy  but i am not taiking the ATE either way

 

 

 

shad    im scratching my head  im not totally getting why he is going at monstr

I am mind melding with Dice. This is spooky!

[Eldrick4221]

im leaning town on monstr     as i said i cant read him but he made efforts to help me with that  i cant say hes said anything scummy  but i am not taiking the ATE either way

 

 

 

shad    im scratching my head  im not totally getting why he is going at monstr

That's a good point about monstr. I'll give him a slight town for that. Scum can do that too, but it's more likely to happen from town.

[Turin Turambar]

[V] monstr [/v]

 

His argument with zander is ridiculous. Z made one vote and monstr went crazy. From my reading it looks like he is going as far to try to bring zander's alignment into question.

 

Monstr, what was the one post you are afraid to clear me for?

[Turin Turambar]

Question for zander and Eldrick, did you get your pm changing your role at start of night or at end of night. anyone else that has already claimed a second role pm can weigh in here also.

 

I have a reason and will give it if asked.

[dicetosser1]

 

im leaning town on monstr     as i said i cant read him but he made efforts to help me with that  i cant say hes said anything scummy  but i am not taiking the ATE either way

 

 

 

shad    im scratching my head  im not totally getting why he is going at monstr

I am mind melding with Dice. This is spooky!

 

 

my heart........

[Sooh]

[v] monstr

 

His argument with zander is ridiculous. Z made one vote and monstr went crazy. From my reading it looks like he is going as far to try to bring zander's alignment into question.

 

Monstr, what was the one post you are afraid to clear me for?

Seriously? I'm having trouble seeing anything that you see so far in this game. You seem to read into things in a way that's just confusing to me.

 

Help me understand you. How do you feel about other players in the game? Give me a sample size of your reads as they are right now so I can try to understand where you're coming from.

[Eldrick4221]

Question for zander and Eldrick, did you get your pm changing your role at start of night or at end of night. anyone else that has already claimed a second role pm can weigh in here also.

 

I have a reason and will give it if asked.

I don't understand the distinction, but my role either changed, or was fully revealed, when I was lynched. I don't know which. I don't know if I was always the stump or not.

 

So, to answer your question, niether. it happened D0.

 

i would like to know your reason, though.

[Eldrick4221]

My wincon didn't change, though. I still win with town. It's still my goal to remove threats to town.

[Eldrick4221]

I realize how close that was to breaking rules, and doing so was unintentional. I apologize to the mod if I overstepped what I'm allowed to say regarding my role pm. Any quoting was coincedental.

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

Question for zander and Eldrick, did you get your pm changing your role at start of night or at end of night. anyone else that has already claimed a second role pm can weigh in here also.

 

I have a reason and will give it if asked.

I don't understand the distinction, but my role either changed, or was fully revealed, when I was lynched. I don't know which. I don't know if I was always the stump or not.

 

So, to answer your question, niether. it happened D0.

 

i would like to know your reason, though.

I read that as end of D0/ start of N0. Which to me leads to a greater likelihood of your conversion being linked to your lynch. This in turn leads me to further believe that the game was built with everyone vt at start of D0. D0 was built in as a trigger day of some sort. You got lynched and became a treestump. Zander did something to become IC. Etc... For it to have been coincidence seems far fetched to me.

 

I would still like to hear from the others that have claimed role alteration. Specifically zander as he is the only confirmed town.

[Clovdyx]

Vote count:

 

• Hallia - 1 - Sooh
• Celeste - 1 - Hallia
• Turin Turambar - 1 - manbat
• Manbat - 3 - Zander, Shad, Turin Turambar
• Calder - 1 - Celeste

[Turin Turambar]

Sooh, my reads will vary quite a bit depending on how I end up deciding on the setup and if people had alignments D0. If they didn't then all I have to go on is what people have done today and how that matches with how they acted yesterday.

 

Using my current thought that there were no alignments until today then I find manbat, Calder, and Hallia moat worrisome. Len is now starting to ping some and Alanna. That is more associative tho.

 

Csarmi is null but weird. However, that isn't enough to condemn him. I don't like Nolder bbasically not playing But he was like that yesterday so it is currently Null.

 

Pral is more likely town than not. Celeste I will need to wait for more information.

 

that's where I am off the top.of my head.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

Question for zander and Eldrick, did you get your pm changing your role at start of night or at end of night. anyone else that has already claimed a second role pm can weigh in here also.

 

I have a reason and will give it if asked.

I don't understand the distinction, but my role either changed, or was fully revealed, when I was lynched. I don't know which. I don't know if I was always the stump or not.

 

So, to answer your question, niether. it happened D0.

 

i would like to know your reason, though.

I read that as end of D0/ start of N0. Which to me leads to a greater likelihood of your conversion being linked to your lynch. This in turn leads me to further believe that the game was built with everyone vt at start of D0. D0 was built in as a trigger day of some sort. You got lynched and became a treestump. Zander did something to become IC. Etc... For it to have been coincidence seems far fetched to me.

 

I would still like to hear from the others that have claimed role alteration. Specifically zander as he is the only confirmed town.

 

 

I think it was linked to my lynch too. You're probably right about everyone being VT on D0. Which would mean that some people became mafia between D0 and D1.