[Advanced] Gods and Demons Mafia - All your souls belong to Shad (Triads win)

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

+1

Which means what?

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

[Zander?]

When did we play together? Cause I changed my style up alot afew months ago. I don't do the passive, wait out the game, crap anymore.

 

As for Zander, it's entirely possible I am tunneling and not adjusting my read well because of it, but D0 Zander does not feel like town Zander to me. So I am going to vote him unless someone can convince me someone else is more wolfy.

 

So do that. Convince me someone else is a better lynch, not that my lynch is wrong, cause I don't think it is.

 

 

Who are you sussing besides me Len and why?

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

 

+1

 

Which means what?

 

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

 

But Zander does this as both alignments, so why is it scummy for Zander

[Hallia]

I haven't played in a while, I am focusing on this game.

[BFG]

Lol this feels like Pulp Fiction

 

Every time I try and order people into a POE it changes :/

[Zander?]

Because the circumstances are completely different and you know it.

 

 

Meta is Meta imo.

[BFG]

I haven't played in a while, I am focusing on this game.

Its why I'm asking Lenlo :)

[Hallia]

A revolving door, eh?

[Hallia]

A revolving door, eh?

[Hallia]

Hnnnnng dragonmounnnnnttttt

[Zander?]

 

So? Lenlo can have good instincts, I find you difficult to read, Cory finds you easy, I can read Sooh marginally more easily than he does... some people just read people.

 

Why is he wrong?

 

 

 

Because Im Town this game and he thought I was Town in WoW...its a pretty basic concept imo.

 

lololololololol

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

You keep referencing Matrix for things I say against you.

 

We were scum together that game, pushing each other. If I used those arguments against you in Matrix, and you were scum in Matrix, wouldnt that mean I might be right? At the very least it implies we are both wolves so we should /still/ lynch you.

Nope cause it wasnt why i was right about you in Matrix, It was just youre reads lists and the fact that you couldnt do anything really to stop it. And for someone who "claims" to be able to read me so well should know META is a LARGE part of how I make my reads!!!!

So those werent reasons you were right about me being wolf in matrix, so your using them as reasons to be push me being wolf in this game?

 

But they were right and same with Lenny in WoW and for someone who says they read me well (im pretty sure im posted what im about to say in OUR Maf QT for Matrix) I go after the EXACT same things when bussing as I would go after as Town. I feel like you should know this since you know me so well....

Another example game of you bussing your scummate.

 

 

IT DOESNT MATTER I LOOK FOR THE SAME THING WHEN I BUILD A CASE ON A TEAMMATE OR AS TOWN.  I SAID AS MUCH IN MATRIX MAF QT THAT YOU WERE IN!!!

 

Go back and read it and see for yourself.

[Zander?]

Cmooon. Don't let Zander escape.

 

I cant wait to see Len's response when I flip Town.  He's not even willing to consider hes wrong really nor has he looked at anyone else as possible Scum.

[BFG]

 

So? Lenlo can have good instincts, I find you difficult to read, Cory finds you easy, I can read Sooh marginally more easily than he does... some people just read people.

 

Why is he wrong?

 

 

Because Im Town this game and he thought I was Town in WoW...its a pretty basic concept imo.

 

lololololololol

 

I was about to say why is his case wrong, all you seem to have done recently is try to discredit his ability to read you, but there was the red/blue post a while ago I should probably read again :/

[BFG]

Manbat you still here?

[Zander?]

 

*snip*

 

Really???  Youve never played with players that are calculated as Town....????!!!

 

 

Tbh, regarding this discussion - 

 

Zander, you said you did it as a reaction test. I don't believe you did. I think you were happy and excited about randing town, and possibly having a way to irrefutably prove it by posting your claim in color. Then, when you were getting heat for it, you had to rationalize it, and that's what you came up with. I still think you're town, just a townie trying to explain his actions. 

 

 

 

I was talking about other players.

[Zander?]

Zander 162 Lenlo 135 BFG 81 Eldrick4221 47 manbat 46 Shad_ 34 csarmi 31 Nolder 22 dicetosser1 20 alannalynn 18 cory caboose 17 Sooh 15 Hallia 14 Clovdyx 11 Pralaya 10 John Snow 8 Turin Turambar 5 Calder 4

 

 

There is a scum inside of the people who currently have less posts than the mod.

 

At least one, maybe two at best.

 

 

 

CCSoHW LDO!!!!

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

+1

Which means what?

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

 

This assessment of Zander is brought to you by Pizza: When Zander is town he's like a dog on the freeway barking at every car that passes. Every one must hear his MIGHTY ROAR!!!!

[Zander?]

 

@BFG - I didn't officially say, but I will now: I do have a town lean on Eld, barring a re-read focusing on him. At work on mobile, so that probably won't happen until I get home

Ok thanks, do you have any reason to be suspicious of Zander other than his claim?

 

 

Ill look for an answer to this,

[Cory Caboose]

you seep in the windows 

and the vents,

while i lay in the grass

and i lose your scent.

well, if god gave me grace

then why aren't i graceful?

my joints are frozen, cold, 

old and idle.

[Calder]

 

 

Wow. Hate you all. Terrible start timing for me to have to catch up on all this.

 

Also, if Zander is going to be the lynch then:

 

I volunteer as tribute!

:wub:

Also that manbat guy is prob scum.

Why?

Yo Zander. Doing my best to catch up. I always do a lot better fading my reads the first two days. When there isnt much to go on i feel like we tend to harp on tiny misstatements as inherently scummy and get mislynches. Whereas I actually think town falls into these traps more than scum bc they are more relaxed going into the game.

 

So the first two phases I fade (swap) my read on the player I view as outwardly the most townlike, bc I think a good scum player is actually more likely than town to come off this way. Bc it is the persona they are trying to enact. Whereas oddly people that are town are less concerned of appearances and thus seem scummier sometimes.

 

Manbat is the only one who struck me at that point as being completely reasonable through all posts. So by my self instituted policy I have him atop my scum list.

[Zander?]

 

 

@BFG - I didn't officially say, but I will now: I do have a town lean on Eld, barring a re-read focusing on him. At work on mobile, so that probably won't happen until I get home

Ok thanks, do you have any reason to be suspicious of Zander other than his claim?

As I said, it wasn't the claim itself that I had a problem with. It was the manner in which he went about it. The tone of the whole pm color thing clearing him without a doubt when as Cory said, it doesnt. I don't like it at all, it,feels very fake to me.

 

 

But Cory mentioned that AFTER i did what youre saying.  Does that no factor into your assessment of it and reasons for why or why not please?

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

 

Zander, it seems like you're pulling random quotes and just asking why.

lol! So much this!

 

+1

 

Which means what?

 

I agree with them and was just about to call him on it.

 

This assessment of Zander is brought to you by Pizza: When Zander is town he's like a dog on the freeway barking at every car that passes. Every one must hear his MIGHTY ROAR!!!!

 

So you're reading him town for it?

[Sooh]

 

 

*snip*

 

Really???  Youve never played with players that are calculated as Town....????!!!

 

 

Tbh, regarding this discussion - 

 

Zander, you said you did it as a reaction test. I don't believe you did. I think you were happy and excited about randing town, and possibly having a way to irrefutably prove it by posting your claim in color. Then, when you were getting heat for it, you had to rationalize it, and that's what you came up with. I still think you're town, just a townie trying to explain his actions. 

 

 

 

I was talking about other players.

 

And I was talking about when you initially said you posted your claim as a reaction test. 

[Zander?]

 

 

So?

 

He's asking your opinion on what you think I'm doing, why shouldn't I give the answer?

 

 

I dunno because maybe the reason I asked Eld was because I wanted to hear his response?

 

 

Which he gave, I don't see why I shouldn't answer to. And bluntly you're never going to get 'good' play out of me at 3am :/

 

 

Because Im not a huge fan of giving people answers to others questions is all.

 

 

 

Hai lovelies

 

I really like Dice's posts! It's a new world, I have him as town for now!

Hallia was wrecked as Scum before a few times for reading Dice as Scummy. This posts may be a flip of plans but at best its null imo.

I've also done it as town, but you left that out.

 

 

Thats why I said it was Null at best.  Its just something I mentioned because of your read THIS EARLY.

 

 

Cmon people, anyone have any question about Zander? I will answer anything you want to get this wolf lynched now

 

 

has Len EVER been THIS sure of a read and went after it before?  Like has no one else noticed he hasnt made a case against anyone else atp?