[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[Nolder]

"OR EVERYONE DIES.

 

George R.R. Martin wins."

 

I would have been ok with this.

In fact if I ever get a chance I think I'll steal this idea.

[Nolder]

"Nolder could come in, claim SK and explain the situation for lulz"

 

I thought about it. I was banking my entire game on Celeste being mafia so I seriously considered coming clean and just being like alright guys that's it for me, it's over, just give me the noose I'll do it myself thanks.

 

Only reason I probably didn't is I went to the movies today.

I figured I'd just come back and see where the chips fell, maybe I'd get lucky.

[Clovdyx]

 

""How does anyone reconcile such things? They shrug and say it's WIFOM and focus on more substantial concerns."

 

100% serious, completely legitimately, not even trying to be a condescending prick here - what is MORE substantial than interactions with known mafia? Like, I don't understand what's MORE significant than how a mafioso and unresolvedplayerX handled each other, besides maybe resolving claims/night actions."

 

Relax Clov I just didn't want to answer the question.

Don't tell me what to feel :(

[Shad_]

Town, who would you have looked at first as a potential SK?

 

Wish was my top candidate for 3p. You would have been second.

 

But I was hunting scum, not focusing on 3p. >_<

[wish-tree]

Ok I'm reading the DT and I don't think people appreciate the situation I was in enough and it doesn't look like Tress explained my thoughts.

I was in a position of being townread but also being (weird) for a long time. Weird eventually morphed into scummy but for a long time I was categorized as town but...off.

Had people seen a kill that shouldn't have been there they would be thinking SK and I actually got really nervous for a bit when scum got vigged.

So the way I chose to use my kill was to kill targets that HAD to die with the hopes that mafia would just double up their kill with mine and no one would be the wiser but if they didn't at least the people who had to die did die. It worked out pretty good but on N3 I chose to holster and I was going to holster the rest of the game until the win was achievable because I just couldn't let the town (or mafia) know I was out there.

 

Be honest Wish if you saw an extra kill who would you have shot?

Town, who would you have looked at first as a potential SK?

I was actually looking at Pizza possibly being SK, lololol

didn't expect there to be an SK and a vig, since I thought it was either or, but when it turned out that the vig was 1-shot, I suspected something was up. 

 

I was actually attempting to get you lynched. I don't think I would have shot you earlier if I had guessed that you were an SK. 

[Shad_]

When I was talking about inactives and lynching Pral was probably the only time I was truly sincere in this game.

For what it's worth, what you said about Pral (more to Cory than to Laine) was a big factor in my town read of you at the start. Your push on Celeste was the biggest thing that had me calling you town at the end.

[Nolder]

Oh...well ok then I guess the DT was right I should have shot into the crowd and caused paranoia lol.

Live and learn I guess.

[Shad_]

I don't think Pizza would have ever claimed that shot so early as anything but town. As 3p, if Kaylee had flipped final scum, Pizza's vig claim would get him lynched the next day 100% of the time.  (See: Lenlo in NBC)  He knows that, so not going to claim it. If there were 4 scum and one had a 1x vig, he shoots Zander (who was obv getting lynched D2), would have made for a great late game claim, but it only works if he can justify surviving two more nights (or 3 if his final partner is outed).  Possible to justify me and Laine dying first if he sticks to VT until lylo, but not after the claim.

[Nolder]

 

When I was talking about inactives and lynching Pral was probably the only time I was truly sincere in this game.

For what it's worth, what you said about Pral (more to Cory than to Laine) was a big factor in my town read of you at the start. Your push on Celeste was the biggest thing that had me calling you town at the end.

 

You mean about inactives? Well that was all legit. I get so frustrated with the subject and used to really REALLY go off about it before you joined and started playing here. I just don't want to be that guy anymore though because in all my time trying to convince people both in game as any alignment and out of games as just me with no motivation other than my own real concern it has never swayed anyone. Ever. And I just get lynched or treated like a bully or both and it's never done any good just caused frustration. So I'll let other people deal with it from now on. Or not.

[Shad_]

I'm basically just comforting myself in the fact that the two biggest things I town read you for were actual town!Nolder moves. 

[alannalynn]

Nolder you frustrate me to my very core.

[Lenlo]

I don't think Pizza would have ever claimed that shot so early as anything but town. As 3p, if Kaylee had flipped final scum, Pizza's vig claim would get him lynched the next day 100% of the time.  (See: Lenlo in NBC)  He knows that, so not going to claim it. If there were 4 scum and one had a 1x vig, he shoots Zander (who was obv getting lynched D2), would have made for a great late game claim, but it only works if he can justify surviving two more nights (or 3 if his final partner is outed).  Possible to justify me and Laine dying first if he sticks to VT until lylo, but not after the claim.

Hey, I knew shooting Pizza was a mistake the moment I submitted that.

[Cory Caboose]

Nolder you frustrate me to my very core.

 

just lynch him, imo

[Nolder]

[Clovdyx]

Last word.

[Pralaya]

Checked the QT expecting Cory's rants. Wasn't disappointed

 

"AFAICT he doesn't really even enjoy playing. I mean, I hope he does, but just the vibe I get. I feel like when he's a villager he really hopes he'll get lynched early so that he can stop playing."

 

No, I really like playing mafia and enjoy the twists and turns playing it. What I don't enjoy is trudging through 25-30 pages a day. When it so happens that I have to read 20+pages a day, it becomes a chore rather than fun. In a way, I don't like very very "active" games. It is during these games I phase off, skim and just end up going through the motions. This was one such game. 

 

"And AFAICT for the most part he just prefers to lurk than post. I've seen several games where he has no trouble keeping up but just prefers not to talk, and you know how I feel about closed players"
 

I never, ever lurk on purpose. I don't know where you got that. Not even as wolf (I am actually more active when I am wolf). 

[Cory Caboose]

Checked the QT expecting Cory's rants. Wasn't disappointed

 

[Clovdyx]

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