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[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS


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So

 

Going to actually finally catch up on the posts I haven't read from like two days ago.

 

I'll be gone most of tomorrow, will try to keep up on my phone but no promises.

 

Tomorrow night I ISO Zander intensely and look at how people interacted with csarmi.

 

I need to peace out of real time for a while or I will never get the first part done.  I'll read up anything I miss before I go to bed.

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So

 

Going to actually finally catch up on the posts I haven't read from like two days ago.

 

I'll be gone most of tomorrow, will try to keep up on my phone but no promises.

 

Tomorrow night I ISO Zander intensely and look at how people interacted with csarmi.

 

I need to peace out of real time for a while or I will never get the first part done.  I'll read up anything I miss before I go to bed.

 

Night man!!!!

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Csarmi (7) Cass Wish Kaylee Alanna Lenlo Zander Pizza

Starting With Cass. Her vote was way before Pizza's case and the shift to Csarmi. This is her post here. She explains what she sees of his meta. At this point Csarmi was receiving no heat and he was her strongest scum lean. She follows through after the Kaylee case and still keeps her vote on Csarmi stating she's okay with a lynch between the two of Pral or Csarmi, that link is here. Again supports her vote here with this after Wish's request of more explanation:

"I've only played with Town Csarmi. Strong impressions - he is interested and active in hunting scum. He challenges absolutely anybody and anything he finds remotely scummy/stupid, and he challenges them hard and he is not at all easy to please. Completely unlike here, imo."

I can still see Cass working in other areas and is worried about not having meta on Csarmi's scum game, but she cases him a little here too and here.

Csarmi on Cass: He town reads her quickly and doesn't budge.

"Cass is looking town. Sounds genuine and not even the least bit stressed"

"Manic Cass is townic Cass. Agree with her self-assessment, Pizza's approach, and just about ready to clear Cass there. Think I'm at Shad and Cass as villagers.... (snip) "

"Oh righ5 reads stuff. Dont lynch Shad, Cass and Len ever. I believe Turin. Second tier is Pray and Kaylee. "
"Cass i am totally sure of. Len/Shad very close."

 

Other than that he seems to be encouraging her to play and apologizes that he couldn't' talk to her in real time.
Conclusion: Cass probably town.

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Remind me why people have Nolder so high?

 

I struggle to answer this.

 

I misread him twice--once when he was scum and once when he was town.  I think I have him figured out now.  If I'm right in this game I'll probably feel pretty confident explaining my read on him in future games, but that doesn't really help you here.

 

I guess I could say: Just trust me on this one.  I've always been wrong before.

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Your  a weird man Pizza. How the heck did you get Sooh to say yes.

LOL!

 

It is true, he is weird. He's weird in many good ways though :wub:

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Csarmi (7) Cass Wish Kaylee Alanna Lenlo Zander Pizza

 

Wish:
Mentions Csarmi and Pral are back in thread. In her next reads list says Csarmi "pretty much null and all fluff"
Complains about the inactives, mentioning Csarmi, says out of Pral, CS, and Nolder that Nolder looks the best and Csarmi is in her list of lynch candidates with Pral, Lenlo, Nolder, Kaylee. Her next reads list has Csarmi at the bottom of the list. This is still before Pizza's case and switch which was on page 83. Mentions that she wants Csarmi to show up and play, he's still in her WTL. "I'd like to give Kaylee and Csarmi more time" This is after the Cass vote. She actually follows this up with voting Pral. Here she asks Cass for more information on Csarmi which Cass responded to, you can see it linked in Cass's Csarmi ISO. She does like that Csarmi is making an effort to catch up.

Here she starts digging into Kaylee and actually takes a swipe at him

There's a lot of mentions of Csarmi on this next page, but this is post Kaylee case and Wish is digging into Kaylee's games to see if Pizza's case has merit. I'll c/p some comments, but it's all there in her ISO, as well on page 7:
   "I'm less willing to lynch Kaylee still want a csarmi, Pralaya, Nolder lynch. Nolder is putting in more work than either Pralaya/csarmi, so take it in csarmi>Pralaya>Nolder order."
   "So you think he [csarmi] set her [kaylee] up? Read her as town and then proceeded to give you info to condemn her because of her change of meta?"
   "His claiming and then leaving is also not a good look."
   "Don't think the timing is weird. Shad did ask him to claim. And iirc, thread kinda pressured him to full-claim. Agree with Pizza's point on csarmi setting Kaylee up"

Anddd she just keeps pushing for his lynch so I'm not going to quote everything. Her vote here

 

UH, LAINEY
 
HELP
 
My dark green is fighting with another one of my light greens
 
I want to vote csarmi, but I'm really tempted to vote Zander because he has been tunneling me all game, even though I found his other behavior townie.
 
what are your thoughts?

This is 100% Lenny, there's no way she's mafia.

Link!!! She doesn't try to push onto Zander even with Pizza going at him on thread. This was a perfect opportunity and she didn't take it.

Csarmi on Wish:
".and yes. Penny. Lenny. Zanny."
"I cant tell Wish and Cel3ste apart."

And that's it. He responds to Wish asking about Csarmi setting Kaylee up but that was mainly in response to Pizza. No mentions of Wish's alignment whatsoever.

 

Conclusion: Wish is town. No doubts.

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Laine doing what she's doing right now might be enough for me to lock her into that untouchable category fwiw.

I love doing this part. Until I pass out. But I'm giving myself 2 more hours.

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I am a silver-tongued devil you know.

 

:P

Lucky you. The last time I got accused of something like that, Tress, RTE and anyone not on my scum team hated me.

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I read you town on approach and stress level Cass. I think you wolfing while Cory h3lping you would be hard. Not finding the right words sorry. You would wanna prove more and be somewhat froz3n? Is that the right wording?

I think this is Csarmi trying to shade cass. Looking into his post at the moment.

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