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alannalynn Spam Master

alannalynn

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RTE let me get this straight. You think Hally is scummier than Lenlo, and you think Lenlo is being used as an info lynch. That would indicate we are town reading him, yet you have him as your #2 scum. Correct me if I'm wrong?

 

Tabor you wanted to talk?

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Yates Master

Yates

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:50 PM, Shad_ said:

I think Clov BG'd me. Not going to say why and could be wrong. Ask me after the game if you're curious.

Do you think you are night kill target over Clov being the direct target?
Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:49 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:46 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:43 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I guess question two would be how confident are you that Clov would bodyguard Cory over anyone else?

I read the last few pages of his ISO so... pretty sure?

 

 

Bodyguard guards one every night and can't guard himself presumably? Still doesn't mean Clov wasn't targeted directly. IMO more likely that Mafia kills Clov over Cory 9 times out of 10.

 

Clov should probably always die before Cory in this game if they're v/v. So yeah, direct targeting is possible.

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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I mean it's POSSIBLE that I was BG'd, but that's no reason to clear me

 

I think there's a fair enough chance they shot Clov outright

 

IDK how productive that discussion is, we won't ever actually know

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 11/6/2015 at 3:12 PM, cory caboose said:

Shad and Zander are literally never wolves here.

 

I would be shocked beyond belief if Sili was a wolf here.

 

 

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Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:52 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:50 PM, Shad_ said:

I think Clov BG'd me. Not going to say why and could be wrong. Ask me after the game if you're curious.

Do you think you are night kill target over Clov being the direct target?

 

Realistically no. You'll understand why I think he protected me after I flip though. But it's not a hunch I'd bank too much on.

Taborline Community Regular

Taborline

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:52 PM, alannalynn said:

RTE let me get this straight. You think Hally is scummier than Lenlo, and you think Lenlo is being used as an info lynch. That would indicate we are town reading him, yet you have him as your #2 scum. Correct me if I'm wrong?

 

Tabor you wanted to talk?

 

Hey hey! I just wanted to hear more about your reads and cases. In the Harry Potter game you were pretty on fire, and I've missed your input here.

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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Actually, now that I think about it again, my reasoning only suggests that I was very likely Clov's target. It doesn't say anything about which of the two of us were shot at.

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:31 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:30 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:06 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:39 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:36 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:41 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Her hammer is too obviously wolfy to be agenda driven. Dont fall into that trap...

Entirely dependent on whether or not Lenlo is a wolf

 

 

This is what makes me think we should be trying to look elsewhere right now? Lenlo's resolution would give us a LOT of help, I think, but we can't afford to lose more town players.

 

 

What are you suggesting here?

 

 

I wonder if Lenlo is being pushed through as a town player, and am worried that other reads are too dependent on his flip. If he IS town, we aren't really in a position to lose him for that sake as we've lost too many town already.

 

 

This is what I meant when I said people are talking about Lenlo's lynch as something of an info lynch

 

Frankly you at least have the excuse of being a sub. Tab has zero excuse to act like there isn't substantial dirt incriminating Lenlo.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 11/6/2015 at 3:24 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:09 PM, cory caboose said:

If we get wrecked by a low content wolf team because we decided to play hero I am going to be irate.

 

I'm talking specifically about Hallia/Tab/BFG (RTE), as there basically has to be wolves in that pile.

 

I'm more worried that the towns are the low content and that's why WE'RE being wrecked. 

 

 

 

Why do YOU feel this way?

Yates Master

Yates

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:55 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:52 PM, Yates said:

Do you think you are night kill target over Clov being the direct target?

Realistically no.

 

Agreed. I think he was softing an investigative PR in order to give himself two chances at a save by either drawing the kill himself or protecting someone he thought might have another PR.
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Taborline

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:59 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:24 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:09 PM, cory caboose said:

If we get wrecked by a low content wolf team because we decided to play hero I am going to be irate.

 

I'm talking specifically about Hallia/Tab/BFG (RTE), as there basically has to be wolves in that pile.

 

I'm more worried that the towns are the low content and that's why WE'RE being wrecked. 

 

 

 

Why do YOU feel this way?

 

 

Paranoia, mainly. And this is the poorest town showing I've seen.

Yates Master

Yates

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:56 PM, Shad_ said:

It doesn't say anything about which of the two of us were shot at.

Okay. I don't think it's worth speculating too far into who we think he protected. I would accept either Shad or Cory as an answer. And we will never know if he was directly targeted or not so I am game solving for worlds where he was directly targeted and where he was protecting one of you. Outside of that? It isn't really of value to anyone else.
Taborline Community Regular

Taborline

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:58 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:31 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:30 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:06 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:39 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:36 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:41 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Her hammer is too obviously wolfy to be agenda driven. Dont fall into that trap...

Entirely dependent on whether or not Lenlo is a wolf

 

 

This is what makes me think we should be trying to look elsewhere right now? Lenlo's resolution would give us a LOT of help, I think, but we can't afford to lose more town players.

 

 

What are you suggesting here?

 

 

I wonder if Lenlo is being pushed through as a town player, and am worried that other reads are too dependent on his flip. If he IS town, we aren't really in a position to lose him for that sake as we've lost too many town already.

 

 

This is what I meant when I said people are talking about Lenlo's lynch as something of an info lynch

 

Frankly you at least have the excuse of being a sub. Tab has zero excuse to act like there isn't substantial dirt incriminating Lenlo.

 

 

I'm sorry if I was wondering about how quickly a lynch almost happened before I even got up this morning, which made it seem too easy, as if something might be going on and so I wanted to look at who was doing it/why that might be happening.

alannalynn Spam Master

alannalynn

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:56 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:52 PM, alannalynn said:

RTE let me get this straight. You think Hally is scummier than Lenlo, and you think Lenlo is being used as an info lynch. That would indicate we are town reading him, yet you have him as your #2 scum. Correct me if I'm wrong?

 

Tabor you wanted to talk?

 

Hey hey! I just wanted to hear more about your reads and cases. In the Harry Potter game you were pretty on fire, and I've missed your input here.

My activity has dropped off since Harry Potter and I'm coming off a string of mislynches as town due to it, so that's why I'm hydra-ing with Cory. Obviously I haven't been very present this game but I've tried to add input where possible, and I trust Cory to be the more thread-present one. lol

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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  On 11/6/2015 at 6:59 PM, Shad_ said:

I could lynch Tab if we want to keep Lenlo alive for lulz.

 

Considering his claim and fight @ d2 Lenlo has some significant wolf PR equity though wolf roles may be 1-shot if that's the gimmick of the game.

 

I think this train needs to finally meet the station.

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:31 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:27 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:41 AM, Lenlo said:

I still believe that what he has posted hasnt been actual casing. He is using his "gut" as an excuse to hound players and get them lynched cause thats what you people call town Zander. He posts alot and shouts alot and gifs alot to drown out how little actual casing/arguing he has done this game. By tunneling on me since D1, he hasnt had to place a single vote anywhere else or worry about having to push a lynch on anyone else. He is going to be able to coast to D4 without having to do alot of "work" work.

 

 

OK LISTEN MAN STRAIGHT UP FREAKING SHOW ME WHERE YOU DID MORE CASING THIS GAME THEN I DID!!!

 

 

IVE DONE MORE WORK THIS GAME THEN YOU HAVE!!

 

 

SHOW EVERYONE HOW THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE!!!

 

You always get so worked up over these kinds of posts, which makes me think I might have struck a nerve.

 

Youve done more posting and face work thats for sure.

 

 

Dude.

 

I didn't pay much attention to Ragnarok but I did track it a little bit.

 

WAS MISHERU SCUM?

 

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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Also I'm mildly greedy and think I can solve the game fully with a Lenlo = w flip and I'd rather have the flip before I decide to clear my weekend to play an internet yelling game

Taborline Community Regular

Taborline

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  On 11/6/2015 at 7:03 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:31 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:27 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:41 AM, Lenlo said:

I still believe that what he has posted hasnt been actual casing. He is using his "gut" as an excuse to hound players and get them lynched cause thats what you people call town Zander. He posts alot and shouts alot and gifs alot to drown out how little actual casing/arguing he has done this game. By tunneling on me since D1, he hasnt had to place a single vote anywhere else or worry about having to push a lynch on anyone else. He is going to be able to coast to D4 without having to do alot of "work" work.

 

 

OK LISTEN MAN STRAIGHT UP FREAKING SHOW ME WHERE YOU DID MORE CASING THIS GAME THEN I DID!!!

 

 

IVE DONE MORE WORK THIS GAME THEN YOU HAVE!!

 

 

SHOW EVERYONE HOW THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE!!!

 

You always get so worked up over these kinds of posts, which makes me think I might have struck a nerve.

 

Youve done more posting and face work thats for sure.

 

 

Dude.

 

I didn't pay much attention to Ragnarok but I did track it a little bit.

 

WAS MISHERU SCUM?

 

 

 

No.

Shad_ Spam Master

Shad_

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  On 11/6/2015 at 7:02 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:59 PM, Shad_ said:

I could lynch Tab if we want to keep Lenlo alive for lulz.

 

Considering his claim and fight @ d2 Lenlo has some significant wolf PR equity though wolf roles may be 1-shot if that's the gimmick of the game.

 

I think this train needs to finally meet the station.

 

 

I agree.

 

But the thought did occur to me that Tab is probably scum for his treatment of Lenlo regardless of Lenlo's alignment, so tossing it out there.

Taborline Community Regular

Taborline

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  On 11/6/2015 at 7:02 PM, alannalynn said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:56 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:52 PM, alannalynn said:

RTE let me get this straight. You think Hally is scummier than Lenlo, and you think Lenlo is being used as an info lynch. That would indicate we are town reading him, yet you have him as your #2 scum. Correct me if I'm wrong?

 

Tabor you wanted to talk?

 

Hey hey! I just wanted to hear more about your reads and cases. In the Harry Potter game you were pretty on fire, and I've missed your input here.

My activity has dropped off since Harry Potter and I'm coming off a string of mislynches as town due to it, so that's why I'm hydra-ing with Cory. Obviously I haven't been very present this game but I've tried to add input where possible, and I trust Cory to be the more thread-present one. lol

 

 

It's a shame :(

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 11/6/2015 at 3:43 PM, cory caboose said:

I had Thane as a villager early because his reads were very non-consensus and abstract but all it takes is a single player in the Mafia QT to go "Thane, remember that your reads as a villager are usually very unique and non-consensus" to stop that from being reliable

 

 

ive only seen Thane scum once and that was SW...and i feel like hes not playing like that in this game at all imo.

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