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  On 11/6/2015 at 5:54 PM, Yates said:

So my biggest problem is I don't know if Clov was targeted directly or if he protected somebody. If he protected somebody? It was probably Cory. And he has Cory as a strong Town read.

 

TL/DR - I'm locking Cory in as Town. He is not getting lynched today.

 

Which means I'm now looking at opportunistic wolves who jumped on Corlanna after my vote.

 

No.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 5:56 PM, Taborline said:

No.

"No" you disagree with my entire post? Or "No" Cory is not getting lynched today?
Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 5:53 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 12:03 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 7:11 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

..... :sad: bye Clov, see you in DT.

 

people, calm down.... Lenlo is being run up here imo. With 4 wolves still in the game, highly possible. One needs two or three  wolves to start the train ,get town to doubt and boom, one more townie down.

 

I can be wrong about Len, i know. And that'd be bad. 

 

I'll still [v] Hallia [/v]

 

That hammer and her explanation after.... nope. nope nope nope.

 

I'm starting to worry that's true as well, that Lenlo is being run up.

 

Sooh - Lenlo, Corlanna, Yates, Thane, Taborline, Hallia (7)

Lenlo - Zander, Dice, Sili, Shad (5)

 

Saying Lenlo is what he says he is, or some form of town, that leaves a lot of my previous townish-reads sitting in the wolf pile. Right now, I feel Zander and Shad are my only stronger reads, though I have a fear in the back of my mind that Shad is just really, really good. The same fear I have for Cory, Yates and Sili.

 

 

 

so in general Tab can you sum up your read on Len?

 

 

Still where I was yesterday - his play is not useful, his clamouring on about you feels misguided (and god, maybe he's right, maybe you are playing us, but I don't see a CASE for that). However, his claim could be true, and the way everyone escalated him gives me the shivers.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 5:58 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 5:56 PM, Taborline said:

No.

"No" you disagree with my entire post? Or "No" Cory is not getting lynched today?

 

 

No, I have been sitting and trying to pick apart your vote post, and now this?

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Im holding fast to my belief Hallia is Scum. Cory can be dealt with tomorrow, im ok with that, just so long as your not removing him from the pool completely Yates.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 12:07 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:56 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Anyway. Cory is misreading halia pralaya rack sooh. Do not clear him when he is this wrong.

 

How do you feel about Laine?

 

 

Alanna GOAT ldo!!!!

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:01 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 12:07 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:56 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Anyway. Cory is misreading halia pralaya rack sooh. Do not clear him when he is this wrong.

 

How do you feel about Laine?

 

 

Alanna GOAT ldo!!!!

 

 

But about her alignment!

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:01 PM, Lenlo said:

Im holding fast to my belief Hallia is Scum. Cory can be dealt with tomorrow, im ok with that, just so long as your not removing him from the pool completely Yates.

I'm removing him from the pool completely.
Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:04 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:01 PM, Lenlo said:

Im holding fast to my belief Hallia is Scum. Cory can be dealt with tomorrow, im ok with that, just so long as your not removing him from the pool completely Yates.

I'm removing him from the pool completely.

 

 

Are you saying Clov possibly had info to influence his protection, or just a hunch?

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 2:36 PM, Taborline said:

Thanks, Cory.

 

Yates does intimidate me (I want you to be town so much), and reading through his ISO I see a lot of back and forth with you, with Sili, a lot of things that seem argumentative but not necessarily constructive (at least, not from my outsider standpoint). I'm trying to get my head around that Rack shooting Sooh or Pral conversation, as I feel there might be something there.

 

 

Don't let anyone intimidate you my dear...i was kinda like that when i first started playing Mafia but if youre town which im thinking you may be GO AFTER ANYONE you think is a suspect..don't matter who.  You be you and do your own thing!!!!

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:04 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:01 PM, Lenlo said:

Im holding fast to my belief Hallia is Scum. Cory can be dealt with tomorrow, im ok with that, just so long as your not removing him from the pool completely Yates.

I'm removing him from the pool completely.

 

I disagree with that decision, but that's an argument for another day.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 4:13 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:11 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:07 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

This is not true. IT is very easy to lynch lenlo.

 

He was a wagon on d1. He was L-1 d2. He was L-1 d3. He's probably going to escape YET again, because the wolves have a golden opportunity here to rid me from this game and enough villages fear my "great wolf game" to probably buy in.

 

 

See, this is more interesting. Given that no scum have died, what I want to know then is how were the hammers on each of those days? I know Day 2. I know Day 3. What happened on Day 1? Would scum so obviously be saving him each time? Cause then we should know at least 3 members: Lenlo, Hallia, and the person who saved him Day 1

 

 

 

  On 10/30/2015 at 10:17 PM, Nolder said:

Final Votecount

 

Rack - Yates, Lenlo, Taborline, Thane, Hallia, Clov, Pral, Sili, Dice, (Sooh) (9)

Lenlo - Zander, Nomi, Corlanna, Shad (4)

Pral - Sooh (1)

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday 30th 3PM PST.

Treating Zander as peeked town because scum won this game a long time ago if he's wolf.

 

Sili and your slot were the "saving" votes here if there were any.  Sili showed a lot of hesitance regarding Rack pre-train but seemed to settle on him as Lenlo's started to pick up steam.  Your slot said you would vote Lenlo but didn't actually do it and let Rack's mislynch roll through.  I think your slot comes out looking the worst D1 wagon-wise if Lenlo is scum.

 

Dice's hammer came at a point when it was too late to lynch Lenlo, and Sooh had made her intent to hammer Rack extremely clear.  I think that if Lenlo is in fact scum it makes very little sense for Dice to hop on a town hammer when he could have been on the "right" side of history instead with zero consequences.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 2:46 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:30 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:07 PM, Taborline said:

What do you mean by hero shot?

"Hero shot" means he wants to take out someone that would be 'unpopular' to take out.

 

He means me. Debatable how unpopular that would even be at this point.

 

Yup.

 

I was going to fake a role that has the ability to submit 3 names every night and receive a yes/no on if there was scum in the list or not. And I was going to say that my results went like this:

 

N1: Corlanna/Sooh/Dice

N2: Corlanna/Shad/Clov

 

And I was going to suggest that we not lynch outside of Corlanna/Dice/Shad. But really? Do I even have to fake this ability to get peole to wake up and vote Corlanna? I mean, I'm having trouble coming up with a scum team that does not include Corlanna that leaves CorlannaT/ClovT/YatesT/ShadT all alive.

 

[v]Corlanna[/v]

 

 

 

why Shad here Yates? 

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:12 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:13 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:11 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:07 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

This is not true. IT is very easy to lynch lenlo.

 

He was a wagon on d1. He was L-1 d2. He was L-1 d3. He's probably going to escape YET again, because the wolves have a golden opportunity here to rid me from this game and enough villages fear my "great wolf game" to probably buy in.

 

 

See, this is more interesting. Given that no scum have died, what I want to know then is how were the hammers on each of those days? I know Day 2. I know Day 3. What happened on Day 1? Would scum so obviously be saving him each time? Cause then we should know at least 3 members: Lenlo, Hallia, and the person who saved him Day 1

 

 

 

  On 10/30/2015 at 10:17 PM, Nolder said:

Final Votecount

 

Rack - Yates, Lenlo, Taborline, Thane, Hallia, Clov, Pral, Sili, Dice, (Sooh) (9)

Lenlo - Zander, Nomi, Corlanna, Shad (4)

Pral - Sooh (1)

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday 30th 3PM PST.

Treating Zander as peeked town because scum won this game a long time ago if he's wolf.

 

Sili and your slot were the "saving" votes here if there were any.  Sili showed a lot of hesitance regarding Rack pre-train but seemed to settle on him as Lenlo's started to pick up steam.  Your slot said you would vote Lenlo but didn't actually do it and let Rack's mislynch roll through.  I think your slot comes out looking the worst D1 wagon-wise if Lenlo is scum.

 

Dice's hammer came at a point when it was too late to lynch Lenlo, and Sooh had made her intent to hammer Rack extremely clear.  I think that if Lenlo is in fact scum it makes very little sense for Dice to hop on a town hammer when he could have been on the "right" side of history instead with zero consequences.

 

 

So Len flipping scum would clear Dice? 

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:05 PM, Taborline said:

Are you saying Clov possibly had info to influence his protection, or just a hunch?

I feel like Cory is very likely cleared in one of two ways:

 

1. Clov is probably the only person I trust to read Cory accurately. He was Town reading Cory.

 

2. If Clov was NOT the direct target last night, then I think he probably protects Cory. Which means Cory could have been the target.

 

Either way? I'm okay losing to Cory with "I blame Clov spew" as an excuse.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:15 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:05 PM, Taborline said:

Are you saying Clov possibly had info to influence his protection, or just a hunch?

I feel like Cory is very likely cleared in one of two ways:

 

1. Clov is probably the only person I trust to read Cory accurately. He was Town reading Cory.

 

2. If Clov was NOT the direct target last night, then I think he probably protects Cory. Which means Cory could have been the target.

 

Either way? I'm okay losing to Cory with "I blame Clov spew" as an excuse.

 

 

Is that it though? You're going to remove him from the lynch pool for the rest of the game based on this?

 

PS Clov can be wrong. Just in case you forgot. He has been in the past and will most certainly be wrong again. So what makes you so sure he CAN'T be wrong here?

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:14 PM, Zander said:

why Shad here Yates?

In my very fake scenario that I said was fake? Because in that scenario I would have been pretending that Role Cop could still be a scum role.
Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:17 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Is that it though? You're going to remove him from the lynch pool for the rest of the game based on this?

Yup. That's it. I'm a maverick.
Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:15 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:05 PM, Taborline said:

Are you saying Clov possibly had info to influence his protection, or just a hunch?

I feel like Cory is very likely cleared in one of two ways:

 

1. Clov is probably the only person I trust to read Cory accurately. He was Town reading Cory.

 

2. If Clov was NOT the direct target last night, then I think he probably protects Cory. Which means Cory could have been the target.

 

Either way? I'm okay losing to Cory with "I blame Clov spew" as an excuse.

 

 

So option 1, for the most part.

 

I'm NOT comfortable losing Cory based on that, because reading this post:

 

 

 

  Quote
Okay.

 

Any combination of Yates/BFG/Remainder kills Cory or Clov Day 1 every time. Scum Yates is not afraid of Nomi and would be convinced to kill Cory because Cory and Clov both read Hally and BFG well. And with all due respect I think Tab, Thane, and Lenlo all look to someone else to lead their team and need to kill off threats to Scum leader.

 

[v]Corlanna[/v]

 

If I lose to any combination of Lenlo, Tab, Thane, Hally, Zander without a scum Cory? I tip my hat and say good game, you got me.

 

Makes me feel like Cory is a strong player for our town team, and you want to get rid of the last of them. You know we won't lynch Shad, so go for Cory.

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 5:56 PM, Yates said:

Len, Sili, RTE... Dice/Tab?

 

I have a hard time believing Sili goes at me like that with pretty much no pressure on him and being a consensus townread

 

There's always a substantial chance it backfires with a doofus like me on the other end

Posted
  On 11/6/2015 at 6:19 PM, Taborline said:

I'm NOT comfortable losing Cory based on that, because reading this post:

....

Makes me feel like Cory is a strong player for our town team, and you want to get rid of the last of them. You know we won't lynch Shad, so go for Cory.

????

 

I think you are COMPLETELY misreading what I just said. I have quite clearly locked Corlanna in as Town based on my ISO dive into Clov's brain.

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