[Standard] The Matrix Reloaded - Game Over

[Clovdyx]

 

I really think Lenlo is more likely to be a wolf than anyone else but I'm going to be so mad at myself if he's telling the truth

 

I'm a member of the "make fun of people who lynch the doctor" DM secret social group and I'm afraid I'll lose my membership if I'm wrong

Yeah... agreed. But he's scummy.

 

Going to ISO Sooh later after homework unless Shad has already blown another one of my ISOs out of the water?

 

 

Do you believe he makes that claim because he thinks he can get away with it, or to draw out the CC?

[Zander?]

 

 

I really think Lenlo is more likely to be a wolf than anyone else but I'm going to be so mad at myself if he's telling the truth

 

I'm a member of the "make fun of people who lynch the doctor" DM secret social group and I'm afraid I'll lose my membership if I'm wrong

Yeah... agreed. But he's scummy.

 

Going to ISO Sooh later after homework unless Shad has already blown another one of my ISOs out of the water?

 

 

Do you believe he makes that claim because he thinks he can get away with it, or to draw out the CC?

 

 

or both

[Zander?]

I think Lenlo's just a wolf. He was frustrated heavily throughout the game and I think he probably would have left PR hints or something like that, especially when he started suddenly getting run up at the end of d1.

 

I hate to be the "let's lynch the un-cc'd doc" guy and after lynching the cop last game I'm sort of nervous about the whole ordeal but I just feel like he wouldn't play this way as a doc-type role and this just feels like a "save myself" type hail mary.

 

 

this ^^^^

[Zander?]

 

I think we all can agree as a wolf theres nothing more upsetting rhabn an obnoxious and wrong townie.

 

If Lenlo is v I'm considering this a scumslip LDO

 

 

 

 

:flamingsword:

[Zander?]

do you like hate vowels or something

 

 

i legit lololololololol'd in rl!!!!!!!

[Shad_]

 

 

 

Wolves are Zander, and if Sooh flips scum like I suspect you. If Sooh doesnt flip scum I would have to say maybe BFG and Dice? I havnt thought that much about if Sooh flips town atm because if she does im not lasting long this game.

 

For Town I wanna say Clov, Yates though I could easily be biased there cause of his defense of me. Shad and Sili are up there to.

 

In the middle are Hallia and Tab. If you flip scum, id say Hallia is town. If you flip town then Hallia is probably scum because I dont remember a game where you were both town and this kinda attitude between you two ever happened. 

 

Is there something that you're separating these for, or is it a lack of good candidates with a Town!sooh?  Off the top of my head, there's no reason that Dice or BFG couldn't be mafia with Sooh (though I don't believe either are).

 

While I fully agree that Cory flipping mafia is enough to write Hallia off, I think you have a big logic gap regarding him flipping town.  I still don't know if I believe that Hallia would want to push Cory early if she's mafia - if at all.  I don't really remember this kind of interaction between the two of them, either, but them both being townies mean they have to feel one another out.  

 

Where are you IRT Thane?  I think he's the only person you've left off.

 

BFG/Dice, I am separating them for lack of good candidates for Town!Sooh. As I said, I havnt put much thought into if Sooh flips town cause I have basically put all my eggs into the Scum!Sooh/Scum!Zander basket. Tab could theoretically be one to, but Tab is the weakest of my reads in either direction.

 

For the Cory thing, as I said I just dont remember any previous games where they were like this and both town. If Cory flips town id probably defer to people who can read Hallia better cause she has consistently fooled old me.

 

For Thane, hes in the middle but while we were talking he was rising. I dont think hes scum anymore, but I just cant put him up in high town with you and Yates.

 

 

 

YET YOURE VOTING CORLANNA

 

PEOPLE COME ON NOW I SUCK AT MAFIA HOW THE HELL AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS CRAP???!!!

 

 

o_O  Was he voting Corlanna at any point today?  I think he parked it on Sooh from the get-go.

[Cory Caboose]

IIRC Lenlo voted me d1 and Zander had multiple tabs open and got confused. I remember it being discussed at length.

[Shad_]

Yeah just started getting to that.

[Zander?]

 

 

Obnoxious*

Lenlo emotionally tilted by zanders boast. Town tend not to be offended as easily.

This is a horrible point. Alignment doesn't have anything to do with someone's personal involvement in the game.

 

Maybe his arrogance bugged me cause he was hounding me for the past week with very little to go off of, he was wrong, and yet people still praise him like the second coming.

 

 

 

or maybe your just mad cause Im right

[Shad_]

I don't think Sooh and Lenlo are ever w/w, looking back at their spat near the end of d1 which seems have been propelled into today.

I need to do a quick Sooh ISO (not doing notes/commentary) but Lenlo/Sooh w/w has felt like a real possibility to me for a while now.

[Zander?]

so, yeah.... not feeling the 'let's lynch the doc' vibe here....

 

even if the chance is slim, there's still a chance he is telling the truth.

 

i'll throw it on an entirely different angle here, and will ...

 

[v] Taborline [/v]

 

more chances of finding a wolf here than with Lenlo IMO.

 

talks a lot, says little, leaves remarks left and right without explaining.... just a tag along wolf, hoping to be ignored till endgame

 

 

why?

 

i dont feel great about Tab but Lenlo has far more chance to be a wolf imo.

 

could they be w/w iyo?

[Zander?]

I'm not sure if I believe the claim...Cory's point about possibly hinting/claiming D1 isn't one I necessarily disagree with.  But I understand his reasoning for his choice (and agree with it), and he didn't take too much time to answer him.  Not saying he couldn't do that as mafia, but there wasn't much time between his original claim, Cory's question, and the follow up answer.  If he's lying, he had it prepared.

 

I'm not going to say what I was "looking for" at this point.  

 

straight up Clov...is Lenlo a wolf iyo?

[Zander?]

I will say, I fully believe that Thane could make that post as town and not really consider the implications.  If it was somebody more analytical (rather than intuitive), I might advocate for kill-on-sight.  Still, it lowers my confidence in him.

 

 

great observation and I agree completely.

[Zander?]

Apparently not. What I got from that was you calling me scum because I got angry at someone for being a donkey.

 

 

HEY!!! I MAY BE AN ASS BUT I AM NOT A DONKEY SIR!!!!

[Clovdyx]

 

I'm not sure if I believe the claim...Cory's point about possibly hinting/claiming D1 isn't one I necessarily disagree with.  But I understand his reasoning for his choice (and agree with it), and he didn't take too much time to answer him.  Not saying he couldn't do that as mafia, but there wasn't much time between his original claim, Cory's question, and the follow up answer.  If he's lying, he had it prepared.

 

I'm not going to say what I was "looking for" at this point.  

 

straight up Clov...is Lenlo a wolf iyo?

 

 

...no.  If not for the claim, I'd say yes.  I don't know if I'm just afraid of being wrong or what, but I'm buying it.

[Zander?]

I kinda still want to lynch Lenlo in spite of the claim.

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

Wolves are Zander, and if Sooh flips scum like I suspect you. If Sooh doesnt flip scum I would have to say maybe BFG and Dice? I havnt thought that much about if Sooh flips town atm because if she does im not lasting long this game.

 

For Town I wanna say Clov, Yates though I could easily be biased there cause of his defense of me. Shad and Sili are up there to.

 

In the middle are Hallia and Tab. If you flip scum, id say Hallia is town. If you flip town then Hallia is probably scum because I dont remember a game where you were both town and this kinda attitude between you two ever happened.

But it's never this easy Shad.

I don't hate this list. I'm on the fence about Zander atm.

 

 

 

care to explain because this habit of yours this game of just saying words with no explanation is starting to worry me my dear.

[Zander?]

Lenlos list.

 

 

why??!!

[Zander?]

That you are

 

Sooh I'm torn on. I feel like I often read her as scum. I don't want to lynch her over and over again and be wrong.

 

WELCOME TO MY HELL!!!!

[dicetosser1]

 

I'm happy to vote her or Sooh to be honest at this point. I feel like Dice has vanished as well.

 

Dice has vanished in every game I have ever played with him.

 

 

I dont vanish. When you weird northern hemisphere people are sitting on the couch posting im working   byt he time i get home ure all gone mostly so i have no one to talk to :(

 

 

He's up there with Sooh on my "always scum" list.

 

Who are you talking about here Hally?

[dicetosser1]

now Lenlo....

 

im a little torn here. Ive been thinking len town because of his responses with rack and trying to work around zander. But shad iso changed my mind. then his doc claim comes.

 

while i believe there are a number of 1 shout abilitys in this game I find the fact that he claimed DOC to be a bit much for me. Its a great thing to claim as mafia because no townie wants to lynch the doc     or shouldnt anyways. Jack D does not count that was deserved.

 

So i dont believe his claim but a bit of me wants to err on the side of caution.

[Zander?]

Everybody pretend somebody else made that post.  It's more caring than I want any of you to think I do.

 

[Yates]

AFAICT Tab is doing exactly what she was doing in the Ragnarok game; was present and posting thoughts early and then dropped off significantly later. She was 3P that game, so I have literally no clue what that means to her alignment this game.

She was playing to help the Town catch scum, fwiw. I don't know if she linked the QT or not publicly and it's up to her if she wants to share our private conversations in there. But really I don't think she HAS to for you to assume that this is the truth. I mean, she could only win if she was the last person alive so she absolutely needed to kill scum and that was her primary objective.

[Zander?]

I'm happy to vote her or Sooh to be honest at this point. I feel like Dice has vanished as well.

 

 

WHY?

[Yates]

Long story short, I think he's very likely to be town this game.  He's made multiple posts that he's gone back and edited because "it wasn't worth it".  I don't think he has to edit those as mafia, because I don't think they ever get made.

Ok.