Age of Legends [standard] Mafia - Game Over

[Nynaeve]

I think sleep is finally calling so I'm gonna crash. Goodnight guys =)

[Zander?]

I think sleep is finally calling so I'm gonna crash. Goodnight guys =)

 

Nights Nyn

[Zander?]

 

Shad, I'm half asleep so I'll give your posts a more in-depth read on the morrow.  But on the surface, I think it's fair to say we disagree quite a bit in regards to Nolder's content. I think it's on a bigger scale than just that.... ie I think that part of why I've been scum reading you the majority of the game is because our outlook is so different. I can't really explain it. It's sort of the d/c you and Calder seemed to experience. I agreed with Calder a lot in your exchanges on D1 because he made sense to me... where's you didn't, really.

 

I respect your take and I can tell you've put a lot of thought into it. But at the same time, I disagree. Once I complete my ISO on Kiv tomorrow, I'm pretty sure my vote is gonna end on Nolder (bar some divine revelation). Factoring in all the rereads I've been doing... I think he's the most likely to flip scum out of the three. 

 

Ultimately if we stick to the plan we can't lose.  I just like to be right so I'm trying a little harder than I really need to at this point.  I'm cool with any lynch order as long as Zander promises to not tinfoil at F3.

 

 

if you think Nolder is town im assuming you wanna lynch Alanna first....

[Shad_]

 

 

Shad, I'm half asleep so I'll give your posts a more in-depth read on the morrow.  But on the surface, I think it's fair to say we disagree quite a bit in regards to Nolder's content. I think it's on a bigger scale than just that.... ie I think that part of why I've been scum reading you the majority of the game is because our outlook is so different. I can't really explain it. It's sort of the d/c you and Calder seemed to experience. I agreed with Calder a lot in your exchanges on D1 because he made sense to me... where's you didn't, really.

 

I respect your take and I can tell you've put a lot of thought into it. But at the same time, I disagree. Once I complete my ISO on Kiv tomorrow, I'm pretty sure my vote is gonna end on Nolder (bar some divine revelation). Factoring in all the rereads I've been doing... I think he's the most likely to flip scum out of the three. 

 

Ultimately if we stick to the plan we can't lose.  I just like to be right so I'm trying a little harder than I really need to at this point.  I'm cool with any lynch order as long as Zander promises to not tinfoil at F3.

 

 

if you think Nolder is town im assuming you wanna lynch Alanna first....

 

 

More than 50% chance I land there but I'll look at both unless I get distracted by silly things like sleep.  I'd lynch Nolder last of the three.

[Kivam]

Shad, I don't understand why you have Nyn as locked in clear.  Can you explain?

[Shad_]

Shad, I don't understand why you have Nyn as locked in clear.  Can you explain?

 

She was my n0 peek dude.

[Kivam]

 

Shad, I don't understand why you have Nyn as locked in clear.  Can you explain?

 

She was my n0 peek dude.

 

LOL.

 

Realtalk time, though.  At this point in the game, if you're looking at this like there are 3 unknowns rather than 4, you're asking to get burnt.  Take a fresh look at all 4 of us and figure it out.

[BFG]

Official VC 4.9

 

Nolder (2): Thane, Laine

 

Kivam (1): Kivam

 

Laine (1): Nolder

 

Not voting (3): Nyn, Zander, Shad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every time I think Nyn or Kiv or whoever goes off the rails they pull it back lol.

 

Ok I think I'm going to lock in my vote now since it's really a toss up anyway. Hopefully this is right.

 

[v]Alanna[/v]

 

 

Official VC 4.8

 

Nolder (1): Thane

 

Kivam (1): Kivam

 

Not voting (5): Layne, Nolder, Nyn, Zander, Shad

 

Why am I not voting yet? lol

 

[v]Nolder[/v]

Counting Sanders Calder vote as a no vote, there's no change (i think)

[Nynaeve]

DM is being weird again....

[Nynaeve]

Anyways... a bit of a late start, but I'm continuing with the ISO. Will post as soon as I'm done.

 

 

If anyone's around and wants to talk, I'll check in occasionally.

[Nolder]

Good morning Nyn.

[Kivam]

Good morning Nyn.

Nolder, nyn, please respond to my question about crushers word choices

[Shad_]

 

 

Shad, I don't understand why you have Nyn as locked in clear.  Can you explain?

 

She was my n0 peek dude.

 

LOL.

 

Realtalk time, though.  At this point in the game, if you're looking at this like there are 3 unknowns rather than 4, you're asking to get burnt.  Take a fresh look at all 4 of us and figure it out.

 

 

It's a two way street.  If you are extremely more confident one player is town than the other three and you start digging for reasons she might not be, you'll inevitably find some.  Contradictions and bad plays will have happened somewhere down the line.  Ultimately one of the three of you have to take her down to win if she's town, so these will surface.  I'm not going to aid in that process.  We start to focus on minutia instead of the overall quality of her game, and we're asking to get burnt.  I'm not saying Nyn can't be scum.  I'm saying I would rather lose to someone who has played an outstanding scum game than lose because I let myself get distracted into lynching someone who has played an outstanding town game.  It's a difference of getting burnt because scum played beautifully vs getting burnt because you tinfoiled when the game was locked.

[Nynaeve]

 

Good morning Nyn.

Nolder, nyn, please respond to my question about crushers word choices

 

 

I don't understand the question. Can you ask it in a different way?

[Nynaeve]

Good morning Nyn.

 

hey =)

[Nolder]

 

Good morning Nyn.

Nolder, nyn, please respond to my question about crushers word choices

 

Where was it?

[Nynaeve]

There

 

 

 

 

 

Think I may have caught something on reread

 

 

Not sure why think any of that is definitionally not opportunistic

 

Because I feel that I've been legitimately scumhunting and making good observations.....and all you gotta say is.... oh that looks opportunistic. There's nothing about Shad's content so far that makes him look even slightly town imo. So I don't understand how you'd get that impression or why you think this is a v/v situation. But, w/e. 

 

 

[unvote] [v]Nyn[/v]

 

Nyn, the red is verbiage that it doesn't make any sense for any townie to use under any circumstances, ever. A townie doesn't "feel that" they've been legitimately scumhunting, they simply do it ... and say so straight out.

 

Reading back and seeing this again, this looks like the "wrongly fingered scum's" lament ["how dare townie scumread me for doing ABC; yeah, I am scum, but that's exactly what I'd do as town, so they're wrong!"]. 

Does Batmanning the shit out of this game count?  That is a nice little pick up that not even sure I would notice if you didn't point it out.  What I did notice was the pressure she added to the Calder/ Chad thing that did not seem like scum hunting.  Again less inquisitive that I associate with town Nyn and more antagonistic that I don't. 

 

vote nyn

 

@Nolder & Laine:  You've both played on JN, and at least one of you is town.  Considering scum had no day chat, does anything about Crusher's verbiage strike you as meaningful?

 

[Nynaeve]

Are you talking about the batmaning mention, referring to JiF?

[Nolder]

Thanks Nyn.

 

And no not really? Is there something I'm supposed to see in that Kiv?

If so I'm failing because it just looks like a normal post someone would make.

 

Maybe the problem is your question lol.

I've never been asked about someone's "verbiage" before.

[Nynaeve]

I had to google what verbiage means.... LOL

[Kivam]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shad, I don't understand why you have Nyn as locked in clear. Can you explain?

She was my n0 peek dude.

LOL.

 

Realtalk time, though. At this point in the game, if you're looking at this like there are 3 unknowns rather than 4, you're asking to get burnt. Take a fresh look at all 4 of us and figure it out.

It's a two way street. If you are extremely more confident one player is town than the other three and you start digging for reasons she might not be, you'll inevitably find some. Contradictions and bad plays will have happened somewhere down the line. Ultimately one of the three of you have to take her down to win if she's town, so these will surface. I'm not going to aid in that process. We start to focus on minutia instead of the overall quality of her game, and we're asking to get burnt. I'm not saying Nyn can't be scum. I'm saying I would rather lose to someone who has played an outstanding scum game than lose because I let myself get distracted into lynching someone who has played an outstanding town game. It's a difference of getting burnt because scum played beautifully vs getting burnt because you tinfoiled when the game was locked.

That's how i feel about Zander, so I'd accept that if we lose to him. But your only reason for keeping me in your POE (at least that you've articulated thus far) is that you know i can play a beautiful scum game. So that's a bit contradictory.

 

I'm not saying go back and find reasons to call her scum. I'm saying don't get burnt by an assumption, because that's how you lose when game should be locked. Read all 4 of us, and if you come out believing nyn is the cleanest ... cool, I'll respect that (though i - and more importantly, Thane - disagree). But not even reading her to confirm the impression you've developed ... it's a mistake, shad. Worse, it's one with no positive utility for Town at all. i just hope we're not going to regret it

[Kivam]

Are you talking about the batmaning mention, referring to JiF?

Yes. Makes me more comfortable that you were the one to see it.

[Nolder]

I had to google what verbiage means.... LOL

The bust line of Verbal? That's my best guess.

[Nynaeve]

 

Are you talking about the batmaning mention, referring to JiF?

Yes. Makes me more comfortable that you were the one to see it.

 

i don't follow

[Nolder]

How is that a weird reference?