[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[Yates]

@Wish:

 

Boom

 

Boom

 

Boom

 

Lenlo wagon in a nutshell.

[Celeste]

I don't get the two votes I. csarmi much.

[WWWwombat]

[unvote]

[v]Lenlo[/v]

[wish-tree]

 

Okay.

So your reason for voting is because he made a contradiction while trying to defend you?

 

No.  My reason for voting Lenlo is:

 

1) I don't want to die

2) The only viable options right now are Lenlo and Zander

3) I have Lenlo worse than Zander - because:

4) He came into the game talking about AJ being a good lynch, claimed it was because he had identified AJ as a good source of info if lynched, then later said he didn't see AJ as a good source of info because AJ did nothing, then later said he had never meant AJ at all and had meant someone else - but wouldn't say who.  That could all be one hell of a townie mistake to make ... but the simpler explanation is scum losing track of why they initially posted a WTL on a player and then backfilling for all they are worth

 

Again, I have Hally as my number 1 candidate, but since that's a lost cause today I'm moving on

 

1) O-kay...

2) Alright...

3) & 4) What happens if it was just a townie mistake? o.o

[Kivam]

Trying to summarize the Lenlo wagon again:

 

1) Said AJ was doing absolutely nothing, and that he (Len) would like to off him (AJ).

2) Reevaluated AJ, realized that he (Len) was wrong because he had mistakenly missed it while skimming.

3) People find this a contradiction and vote him.

 

No

[Celeste]

I don't get the two votes on csarmi much.

ebwop

[Zander?]

so is there majority?? or need 11?

[WWWwombat]

It was an attempt by me to see if anyone wanted to CFD him.  Csarmi is about as good a lynch as Lenlo atm imo.

[wish-tree]

 

But what I'm seeing so far is it looked like Lenlo was initially called out for something he didn't actually do. "As I said previously" was not the first time he mentioned AJ.

The funny thing is, I caught on to Lenlo because I was going to defend him by making this point. It seemed like a semantic argument since he had mentioned AJ earlier IN THE SAME THREAD.

 

That's not what bothers me, though...

 

Another issue with him is that wtl AJ was too convenient, because AJ had recently been the subject of conversation.

This is the problem I have. And I wouldn't have even thought that was too big of a deal because, as BFG alluded to, it could have *possibly* been a screw up because AJ was fresh on his mind BECAUSE OF the recent conversation. BUT - and this is where it gets sketchy - I pressed him several times on who he claims to have actually meant. He just says "I forget but not rereading to tell you." Key basically restates my concern here in that you would EXPECT someone to remember one of TWO scum suspects. And if he had said Sili and meant Seph? Whatever. I've made mistakes like that. But I'm hard pressed to imagine a scenario where you confuse AJ with someone else in this game.

 

Hmm. Aghhh one minute left!

 

Celeste, what should we do? What if it was a just a townie mistake? But equally, it could be a scum slip!

[WWWwombat]

so is there majority?? or need 11?

 

Hybrid hammer

[wish-tree]

so is there majority?? or need 11?

I think there's just majority. No need for 11.

[Zander?]

[v] Unvote [/v]

 

[v] Lenlo [/v]

[wish-tree]

@Wish:

 

Boom

 

Boom

 

Boom

 

Lenlo wagon in a nutshell.

Thanks.

[Kivam]

 

 

Okay.

So your reason for voting is because he made a contradiction while trying to defend you?

 

No.  My reason for voting Lenlo is:

 

1) I don't want to die

2) The only viable options right now are Lenlo and Zander

3) I have Lenlo worse than Zander - because:

4) He came into the game talking about AJ being a good lynch, claimed it was because he had identified AJ as a good source of info if lynched, then later said he didn't see AJ as a good source of info because AJ did nothing, then later said he had never meant AJ at all and had meant someone else - but wouldn't say who.  That could all be one hell of a townie mistake to make ... but the simpler explanation is scum losing track of why they initially posted a WTL on a player and then backfilling for all they are worth

 

Again, I have Hally as my number 1 candidate, but since that's a lost cause today I'm moving on

 

1) O-kay...

2) Alright...

3) & 4) What happens if it was just a townie mistake? o.o

 

 

Then we lynched a townie D1, and I try to see if I can convince people to vote Hally D2 with more lead time to deadline and Hally forced to either provide more rope for me to hang her with or lurk (and thereby provide me more rope to hang her with). 

 

Of course, she might also post something that makes me reevaluate, or a better target comes up as I finish my reread and the day progresses, but I wouldn't bet on either given what I've seen thus far

[WWWwombat]

*plurality

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sephander (3): John Snow, Lenlo, Csarmi

Kivam (4): Hallia, Nyce, Sili, Shad

Lenlo (8): CorKey, Razen, AJ, Yates, ClovFG, Kivam, Wombicat, Sephander

John Snow (2): Pral, Wish/Celeste

Hallia (1): Talya

 

 

Not Voting (2): Nolderf, Laine

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Monday Aug 17th @ 9am MST/Noon EST

 

DEADLINE IS PASSED, THAT'S A LYNCH! SCENE INCOMING

[Zander?]

 

so is there majority?? or need 11?

I think there's just majority. No need for 11.

 

 

[v] Unvote [/v]

 

[v] Lenlo [/v]

 

then i would have kept my vote on Kiv.

 

sorry for the mixup

[wish-tree]

*dread*

I hope you're right, Kivam.

[Kivam]

*dread*

I hope you're right, Kivam.

 

*shrugs*

 

It's actually a fairly strong case for a D1 which means I'd put my confidence level at all of 40% on this one. 

[Yates]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[Cory Caboose]

Pulled over

 

Glglglgl

[Zander?]

F5 F5 F5 F5

[Zander?]

Pulled over

 

Glglglgl

 

thats sucks brother

 

glglglglglglgl

[Cory Caboose]

No i pulled into a gas station for flip lol Z

 

I don't trust the police

[Kivam]

 

 

so is there majority?? or need 11?

I think there's just majority. No need for 11.

 

 

[v] Unvote [/v]

 

[v] Lenlo [/v]

 

then i would have kept my vote on Kiv.

 

sorry for the mixup

 

 

Seriously?

 

 

ok im gonna keep trying to sift through this but in a nutshell:

 

WTL:

 

Kiv: Im sticking with my read on Kiv...though i have liked some of his more recent posts im gonna stick with my gut on this.

 

Lenlo:enough valid points have been made on him.  i dont completely dismiss the chance it was a "mistake" with AJ/He/She Who Shall Not Be Named.  I still feel Kiv is the better lynch but I would be willingly to switch here if needed to secure a lynch.

 

???

 

This makes no sense.  Right now, you and I are the other names on the chopping block, and you're already on me.  So the only way we'd need help to "secure a lynch" on Lenlo would be if I overtook him (in which case, if I'm you're number 1, why would you switch?) or if you did (in which case it wouldn't be "securing a lynch", it would be self-preservation)

 

 

 

 

DOES EVERYONE REALIZE THIS IS THE RULE?

 

 

 

6. This is a hybrid hammer game. Deadlines will be set by the mods. The player with the most votes at the end of deadline will be lynched. If there is a majority, the phase will end as soon as majority is reached.