[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Zander?]

Tinfoiling on WomboCombo no longer acceptable villager behavior.

 

i think this is actually something we agree on.

[WWWwombat]

 

Tinfoiling on WomboCombo no longer acceptable villager behavior.

 

i think this is actually something we agree on.

 

 

That and not no lynching <3

[Zander?]

 

 

Tinfoiling on WomboCombo no longer acceptable villager behavior.

 

i think this is actually something we agree on.

 

 

That and not no lynching <3

 

 

yep

[WWWwombat]

Game feels stalled though.  People should pick one of {Heart, Sili, Yates} imo so we can get this moving.

[Zander?]

Game feels stalled though.  People should pick one of {Heart, Sili, Yates} imo so we can get this moving.

 

this minus Heart,

[seph]

Can someone find me yates post on when he asked me to look at our mentored qt?

I can't seem to find it.

 

I wanted to double check the times

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sili(1): Zander

Heart(3): Sili, WomboCombo, Yates

WomboCombo(1): AielHeart

No Lynch(1): Dice

Talya(1): Eldrick

 

 

Not Voting: Talya, Csarmi, NotBob, Seph

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Monday, June 29th at 7pm PST.

[Aiel Heart]

Talya

 

Your thoughts right now?

[Talya]

Heart...I gave them earlier and as I haven't been here until now, they haven't changed much...

 

 

 

Okay. As far as Heart being doc? You all realize we already have a proven phoenix, right? And now we have claims of tree stump and commuter? Even removing our mason roles for a minute, there's zero chance we have a doc + tree stump + commuter + phoenix. Those are all essentially unkillable roles.

AND - the problem with the plan to kill a mason to prove the other is:
1. It's not scum hunting. It's information hunting.
2. The last scum is almost certainly Vader. And Vader isn't going to be a goon.

One other thing I wanted to address; claims are claims. Whatever. I agree that you should lynch based on play. Sili wasn't in the poe until he took one for the team to help me out. I think he's pretty obv Town. He DROVE the lynches on Verb and Sooh. He wasn't just sheeping. He's been game solving. AND - for those of you who know Sili meta - volume *is* a Town tell for Sili. Sili scum doesn't know how to post his thoughts without neutering himself. Conversely, I feel like Heart is getting by on her CLAIM not her play. Doc is about as obvious a fake claim as cop for scum about to be crushed. You saw this with Verb. See it now.

[v]Heart[/v]

And if Wombo is commuter, he's Zander's protection. Duh.

 

I don't read that they can to that to someone else and second it say can't be everynight...so no thats not correct.

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Commuter

 

 

I had this down as taking people off for the night, it's the only way I've seen it played. I thought that was what they meant too.

 

 

I'm starting to tinfoil on Zander but I'm probably just being silly. Continue on.

 

I think he makes everyone do that, I have had to stop myself...I believe him, no one else has claimed that cop role.

 

I'm about to go to bed, so I'm going to [v]Wombo[/v] because the way that they're going at me and the progression that took feels off (not to mention they're stubbornly leading the town towards a mislynch and won't even consider that they're wrong, which doesn't feel particularly townie at the moment.)

 

If lynching me or one of the masons is all that will be settled for today, then I'd rather Yates than Sili for the reasons stated before.

 

Goodnight guys

 

I quoted this post and I can't remember why, it may come back later, so leaving it here... :/

 

 

 

 

Leelous reads are basically my reads yates and verbal and sooh excepted. Kind of eerie consoderong our respectove characters. Poetic actually.

 

ITT Sili soft claims Vader.

 

There it is. I knew i wasn't imagining things. Someone mentioned it.

 

 

Looking at this...if Leelou had claimed Padma, I could see where you get the Anakin/Darthe, however she claimed Leia, who used R2D2 with important information on the death star. If he had said Ironic, then I could see it being Darthe/Anakin

 

 

on a side note...would anyone laugh if Darthe had been given Anankin and it was a symp role and they killed their symp...LMAO

 

 

But where would we get a backup cop from...really my only concern with Zander...

 

 

the only thing would be if alanna gave it to him, or he got it randomly, we don't know. We don't know if he did get it or there is one, the wording does suggest it.

 

I would like to make it clear that AJ and I cannot protect anyone but ourselves.  That being said, Heart is still not a doctor.  Thank you.

 

If you can only protect yourself, then Doc seems just as likely now.

[Andrej]

Why Talya?

 

Doc doesn't have to be in the game. I don't think it balances for scum if they potentially can't kill all the confirmed townies because shot gets stuffed.

[Talya]

 

Wombat, What were you night actions?

 

I'd rather not say.  Benefits the mafia more than the town.

 

 

So if you can't commute anyone but yourself, why bother saying this. If it is only yourself, you could have said here

[Talya]

 

What exactly is commuter. I'm being lazy

 

Can commute out of town at night thereby avoiding night actions.  Usually has some kind of restriction.

 

 

Ok so this does say that...happier now

[Talya]

Just checking how the claim went AJ, I thought your role was to take someone away for the night. But they didn't. If would interesting to know if you used it last night, because there was no other kill than mafia kill. The reason may have been you being protected. NB never said that he holstered did he?

 

If NB is a SK then there is just one wolf. If we believe that NB is sk and that he hasn't holstered then he would have used it last night. We know I didn't get hit so it could have been you that was hit. In which case, POE says either Heart or Eld

[Talya]

So that would suggest Heart over Eld. The best thing would be to see if we have a Serial Killer. If we do, then more than likely Heart is the wolf.

 

If we don't have a doc, I can't see the wolves having an extra kill, for night two and I don't think there would be two Vigs (well we see there hasn't been in the claims)

[Talya]

and now no one around..

[Zander?]

So that would suggest Heart over Eld. The best thing would be to see if we have a Serial Killer. If we do, then more than likely Heart is the wolf.

 

If we don't have a doc, I can't see the wolves having an extra kill, for night two and I don't think there would be two Vigs (well we see there hasn't been in the claims)

 

were not lynching Heart!!!

[Zander?]

There is 0 need to lynch a possible Doc today.  Especially when she is cleared up tonight,  Like none at all. 

[Zander?]

we vote siii/yates and we clear up 3 slots in one move with heart at night. if i die we know to lynch her tomorrow.  if not i peek and clear her.

[Talya]

Then lets go for the SK...because that is one things that could still muck us up...if there is a sk, then that clears AJ/Womb and means there would be just one more to get. If you clear Heart it narrows it down to Eld.

[Zander?]

not gonna speculate on who that is now.  clear more players today narrows down the pool of SK poss.  Again thats assuming as well im wrong on Yates/Sili.

 

i dont see any other play that is a more pro town help game solve move.  My way clears 3 players.

[Talya]

If we do have a sk. Then tonight we could have 2 kills and that could mean there would be less town, and still a wolf and sk to get.

[Zander?]

and if we dont? theres only been 2 kills twice.  could have been night kill and a maf with 1 shot vig.  and one night Notbob claims to have killed clov as vig.

 

the biggest PoE Sili/Yates lets clear them up first and go from there

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sili(1): Zander

Heart(3): Sili, WomboCombo, Yates

WomboCombo(1): AielHeart

No Lynch(1): Dice

Talya(1): Eldrick

 

 

Not Voting: Talya, Csarmi, NotBob, Seph

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Monday, June 29th at 7pm PST.

[Yates]

Morning. At least there is more discussion.

 

Also yates, I think my timestamps are different? Because there was no posts at the Time you posted, and I was confused....

Go to your PM's.

 

Go to "American God's Role PM - Seph"

 

These are both on page 2:

Remember the conversation we had about how to claim? Go take a quick look at our pm's Sent 09 June 2015 - 01:47 PM. And if *YOU* want a preview to feel better? Look at the pm Sent 10 June 2015 - 11:27 AM. ;) Just don't say anything in thread about it until after I reveal. I think you can see where there's a LOT to gain there...

Oh, you know what? Those times are EST. So you are an hour behind?

 

First one is the conversation about fake claiming in a pro Town way. Second one is about finding NB's mason buddy.

[Yates]

we vote siii/yates and we clear up 3 slots in one move with heart at night. if i die we know to lynch her tomorrow.  if not i peek and clear her.

LOL

 

1st - there's likely only 1 scum left. So that should remove Sili and I from the poe pool EVEN IF Sili wasn't glaringly obv Town already.

 

2nd - You are wrong. This is an advanced game and your plan is a recipe for disaster. The last scum is almost assuredly Darthe Vader. Chances of Darthe Vader being goon are pretty much nil. My guess is he's a redirector. So let's say you lynch one of us AND Heart is telling the truth. Heart's protect gets redirected - probably onto themselves permanently as protection against vig/SK. You get killed. If we have an SK one of the conf Town goes down. Heart automatically eats rope tomorrow. Bang Bang. You just screwed Town.

 

3rd - Take claims out of it, since scum have been mod confirmed to have fake claims. Look at the three lynches. MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST THE VOTE COUNT - look at who drove them. Sili is ALWAYS Town here.