[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Zander?]

 

 

really he plays TOWN like this,,,,?????!!!!

 

i have no personal meta on him.  with his game thus far what do you expect?  i havent voted him since early on because of this.

 

Yes, he does.  Why do you think Darthe had a town read on him but still browbeat him?  It's exactly the wrong way to handle Salami, but playing with him can be seriously frustrating.

 

 

 

possibly 3rd party?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Which cemented my read on him obviously.

 

which was wrong obv and you let him get to you so much (or knew he was town) that you couldn't/wouldn't get off it. hence why i mentioned it.  and dude the not being at you or casing you argument is gonna sink you when you iso'd by everyone. its a joke its been commented on by others before as well.

 

are you just trolling now?

 

I'm not trolling. I never do.

 

That my read was probably wrong on him (I'm still not quite sure Durin was town btw) is mostly his fault.

 

And no you've never cased me. Give me a case and I'll explain/refute your points one by one. Otherwise just stop sniping at me.

 

 

I'd hate to see you actually troll, Salami.

[csarmi]

Vigging Dice, Salami or Sili tonight.

 

I will use the Magic 8-ball to decide.

May the force be with you.

[Yates]

May the force be with you.

You don't get to say that, Jar Jar...

[Sili Quirrels]

Kill me because.... Not bob u r insane. R u joking?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Which cemented my read on him obviously.

 

which was wrong obv and you let him get to you so much (or knew he was town) that you couldn't/wouldn't get off it. hence why i mentioned it.  and dude the not being at you or casing you argument is gonna sink you when you iso'd by everyone. its a joke its been commented on by others before as well.

 

are you just trolling now?

 

I'm not trolling. I never do.

 

That my read was probably wrong on him (I'm still not quite sure Durin was town btw) is mostly his fault.

 

And no you've never cased me. Give me a case and I'll explain/refute your points one by one. Otherwise just stop sniping at me.

 

 

I'd hate to see you actually troll, Salami.

 

 

id vig myself....lol

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

really he plays TOWN like this,,,,?????!!!!

 

i have no personal meta on him.  with his game thus far what do you expect?  i havent voted him since early on because of this.

 

Yes, he does.  Why do you think Darthe had a town read on him but still browbeat him?  It's exactly the wrong way to handle Salami, but playing with him can be seriously frustrating.

 

 

 

possibly 3rd party?

 

 

Of course.  As is pretty much everyone.  Salami's claim isn't exactly the best for certain 3rd party roles though.

[seph]

Zander the lol man.... it's NOT THAT FUNNY

[seph]

That on was.... but the other 900 are not

[alannalynn]

Old reads list:

 

My list

 

Alanna
Zander
Shad

Heart
Eldrick

Wombrej
Seph

Sili

Sooh

Dice
Csarmi
Notbob
Talya
Yates
Verbane

 

 

 

Updated list:
Alanna
Zander
Seph
Shad
Notbob
Heart

Eldrick
Talya

Womdrej
Yates
Sili

Csarmi
Sooh
Dice

 

This is kinda where I am at right now. The top greens are all basically confirmed, so leave them alone. I'm mostly certain on Eldrick/Talya. The next set (and Csarmi) are clear for now, I suppose. I'm willing to call Yates/Andrej t/t atm unless one of them slips. Sooh and Dice are for tomorrow.

[Zander?]

Zander the lol man.... it's NOT THAT FUNNY

 

 

lololol you know im just gonna keep doing it more man right?

[WWWwombat]

 

@Yates - can you analyze the end day trains and all? That wouléd be very useful.

Not really. Not any more than I already have wrt how Leelou spews.

 

I suspect there's likely at least one wolf bussing Leelou that couldn't find their way off her wagon. I'd have to see how Leelou hopped on to Lainey because I thought she was going hard at AH. If she had stayed on AH I'd feel better about AH being a goon.

 

 

IIRC, Leelou was basically forced to hop onto Laine by Darthe and that's what convinced Darthe to CFD her.

[alannalynn]

Zander the lol man.... it's NOT THAT FUNNY

Zander now has a post restriction that says he has to say lol in every single post.

 

Can I get this mod confirmed?

[dicetosser1]

Heart: Thanks Heart for your thoughts! I like your thoughts on Dice, he was slipping under my radar, I'll take a second look at him when I come around to it (still need to look over Sooh* reminder).

 

Yates, you're not as scary as you seem, but this post is strangely foreboding. Curiosity killed the cat... how will you be cleared? I hate half reveals

 

Post One, Post Two Shad second guessing the town... betrayer. But on a serious note, feeling slightly better on Yates, but I'll withhold judgement until he's all caught up and tells me what he thinks about Verbane.

 

Outspoken doesn't equal running the show, Shad.

 

I think the wolf team was frankly caught off guard by Leelou getting killed so her posts are extremely valuable. Take those and compare with how she handled players. Verb and Yates are easily wolves thru POE like 90% of the time. The evidence is ITT

+ +

 

The fact Yates is immediately deciding that those voting him are scum is telling.

 

He's establishing a scenario where it must be me/Talya or him without even being caught up.

 

It's wolfy AF, don't buy into the fake confidence. Yates is pretty much just outing himself ITT and Shad wants to clear him lol

Andrej is coming off a little strong, but I think he probably has Yates at a higher scum % than I do right now, I actually like the pressure being applied, helpful in the long run

 

Shad being odd. Still town but odd.

 

First - I would like to point out that AJ and Dice are probably the two people that read me best.

 

It's important that you understand the above so you can see why THIS is basically a scum claim:

Let me expound. Wolves sort of notoriously have to play less because they aren't able to fake the same consistency or genuineness as their villager sides. Yates and Verb are both very capable players but like most they suffer from wolf syndrome. They are capable of making villager-like posts/analysis in short bursts but the overall lack of presence is the key in finding them.

NOPE.

 

I drive the bus as scum 9 times out of 10. He knows this.  The 10th time? It's because Cory is my scum bro and more prolific than me. Case in point; my last full scum game was 9-5 Mafia.

 

cory caboose 377

Darthe 273

manbat 201

Yates 163

seph 116

Sooh 115

Zander 113

Clovdyx 108

Turin Turambar 99

dicetosser1 70

Ithillian 58

TinaHel 57

ReleaseTheEvil 56

BFG 33

Leyrann 23

Shadar Alantin 9

Songstress 3

Mrs. Cindy Gill 2

Kaylee 1

csarmi 1

Andrej 1

 

Pretty much anyone else here who has ever seen me scum will back me up on this.

 

[v]AJ[/v]

 

Without even reading the thread I can tell you my vote is unlikely to move unless Leelou somehow spewed this slot Town.

Yates, you're wrong on AJ, he's been a town presence since night 1? Day 2? Anyways, I'm hoping I'm right on this. Unless you can show me evidence on the contrary. fwiw, I'm also reading Wombat town, and I read him a lot better than Andrej. I really dislike your vote here, feels kinda.... omgus

 

Yates can basically drive himself to the hangman imo.

 

You're right - I DO read you well. I don't see you helping the village this game. Is it your schedule? Possibly. That's on you to fix though. I literally spent most of my weekend getting up to date in this game to have an impact.

 

Once again - you're deciding I am scum without even being current and THAT is a huge issue because villa!Yates knows the importance of informed decisions. The last time I saw you as scum in Darthe's SK game I caught you on this because you decided to vote me when you replaced in while also claiming not to be up to date.

 

Likewise when you say I read you well, you have stated to do the same with me. Deciding I'm a wolf before reading into my properly is a huge problem and one I doubt you make as a villager.

 

GL though. You should probably realize you don't have the credibility to come in and throw around these type of accusations but carry on regardless, fleabag.

 

Shad post: Shad being open minded and townie or riding the fence?

 

 

goodmorning people.. i'm in, not enough cofee, 3 hours of sleep after a weekend with hardly any internet. 50 pages isn't too bad to catch up to (@work)

 

Anything special going on?

 

Nah nothing you need to worry about. 

<3

 

Also, lol me. I *JUST* realized Thaneballs is lead wagon, not me.

You're clear for at least another day, Yates.

 

Laine is village leader atm.

 

 

 

First post from our known wolf. Goldmine of info here.

 

The comment about hating CS claiming but pegging him town is pretty clearing imo. Bank on that. Even without reading the rest of the thread I would probably bet at this point none of Leelou's WTL in the last sentence are wolf partners. So Heart, Sooh and Seph prob clear.

 

The thing you should pay most attention to is her nulls imo. Scum like to do this because they recognize they can't just ignore their partners but tend to try and say little about them. Food for thought moving forward.

Bold is spot on but why did you make the underlined a generic "scum do this" statement? This is Leelou. Leelou puts her buddies in the nulls or bottom of her "Town lean" lists. Most importantly, though, her strong Town reads are almost ALWAYS Town. She's a buddier.

 

So her last reads list looked like this:

Townie leans

Salami - claimed Jar Jar - hated 

Dice

Sili

Laine

Yates

Talya

Eldrick

Sooh

NotBob

ThaneBalls32

Zander

 

Null

Shad

Maw

 

 

Scummy leans

Aiel <3

Wombocombo

Durin 

Seph

 

I am going to [unvote] for now. I feel slightly better about Heart, not thrilled with her vote though and a few of her reasonings. I want to mull over my scum leans before voting again.

 

 

Basically, anyone in dark green is spewed Town.

 

I'll look at her interactions during catch up to see which of her scum reads look fake and which look like mislynch attempts but at least one of the scum leans will be a buddy. Especially as a GF.

 

 

I like Yates knowledge

 

Agreed, but this day has been wonderfully productive towards finding other scum.  I wouldn't press too close to 8 until we've miked what we can out of the current events.

Townie post.

 

 

Yates while you're catching up, thoughts on verbal/thane?

Dude, I'm 100 pages [not posts] behind. Based solely on Leelou spew? I'm okay with them in the poe. I'll have a better idea likely this time tomorrow.

 

With that? I need to get some sleep.

Don't dude me, dude. Since you're reading the thread anyways, some attention to Verbane would be nice? I want to make sure we're going in the right direction... fresh eyes and all that.

 

 

 

zander  i wanna see thane. I thought Verb was decently townie  tho there was the lack of interaction between him and leelou.

 

yates im leaning town on

Nope. And why? Defend your read

 

I liked his tone when he was here. He was doing Yates things.

 

I would go for csarmi once we're done with verbane and Yates.. Again, it's not setting up lynches if they're obv scum lol

 

Actually it is. and this is the second time you've said this.

Good Yates things? Bad Yates things? This feels too similar to "Darthe being Darthe' which isn't much of an answer. Defend him if you will, please, but give reasons and examples.

 

Second point: Yes, that's because I know how people like to spin things.

 

/snip

I'm going to tunnel the crap out of Yates and Verbane, y'all have no clue yet.

 

First rule of Lynch All Hydras is to lynch Thaneballs, second rule is to let WomboCombo live because by that point you've already hit scum

 

Why are you assuming they can't both be?

 

/snip

I would go for csarmi once we're done with verbane and Yates.. Again, it's not setting up lynches if they're obv scum lol

 

Why are you worried about looking like you're setting up lynches?

/snip

Because we're assuming Durin was town with the janitor kill, and Womdrej is playing a pretty town game now; I'm 100% confident that there's a scum hydra. If 2/3 is cleared, then Thanbal must be it.

 

Secondly... because things shouldn't be this easy and in the event of a miracle that they flip town, then I'm going to be attacked for that reason exactly. Also, confidence is key.

 

 

and i was feeling so good about you Eldrick... you're the only one more or less questioning to what nearly everybody decided on is the way to go, and then you still vote with the others. 

 

I've tried to read everything up untill now, and i'm pretty sure i must have missed something on the way here. 

 

Alanna has firmly taken control of town it seems, and players find it easy to follow her. To be honest, a bit too easy to my liking. It seems to me that nobody even considers the possibility of Verbal/me actually being town. When we flip town, what then? 

 

Here's to hoping that Verb actually gets in before someone decides to hammer. 

 

I dont know if he's town or mafia yet but I do agree with the blue. I have been thinking that today.

Thane applies doubt, Dice reaffirms doubt. You got a problem with me Dice?

Also, Thane if you and your hydra partner were playing a town game, people might be defending the notion that you're town. At this point, basically consensus scum.

 

Ive told you my problem.  Im thinking this is way too easy.

 

Zander 400 alannalynn 303 Sili Quirrels 294 csarmi 268 seph 256 WWWwombat 245 Shad_ 209 Andrej 177 Talya 108     Eldrick4221 90 Yates 89 鲍勃不是我的名字 88     Thane Vakarian 84     Verbal32 53 dicetosser1 49 Sooh 40 Aiel Heart 35

 

Feeling pretty good in saying theres 1-2 wolves in bottom 7 imo.

 

 

and the difference between Yates and Eldrick?

 

 

gotta run  note page 179

[csarmi]

 

 

 

Which cemented my read on him obviously.

 

which was wrong obv and you let him get to you so much (or knew he was town) that you couldn't/wouldn't get off it. hence why i mentioned it.  and dude the not being at you or casing you argument is gonna sink you when you iso'd by everyone. its a joke its been commented on by others before as well.

 

are you just trolling now?

 

I'm not trolling. I never do.

 

That my read was probably wrong on him (I'm still not quite sure Durin was town btw) is mostly his fault.

 

And no you've never cased me. Give me a case and I'll explain/refute your points one by one. Otherwise just stop sniping at me.

 

 

I'd hate to see you actually troll, Salami.

 

Pretty sure I'm playing a decent game but thanks for all the nice compliments Womby.

FTR, I really am not 100% sure on Darthe.

[seph]

 

Zander the lol man.... it's NOT THAT FUNNY

 

Zander now has a post restriction that says he has to say lol in every single post.

 

Can I get this mod confirmed?

I will edit every post until I get mk

[alannalynn]

@Dice: you realize that Verbal flipped scum right? And Leelou before that? At this point I can wave my confirmed town in the air like I just don't care.

[WWWwombat]

 

Yates only started to reengage the game last night and I'm kind of taking notes and waiting for more content still.

Well, not a lot is going to get done on this if we are both sitting back and waiting. What are your concerns with me outside of activity?

 

I mean, this is crazy activity for a DM game. I knew before hand that I'd be swamped towards the end of last week and totally unavailable over the weekend but that's typically not a big deal when MAYBE 30 pages of content will be posted. This game just got out of hand. And I have no problems admitting that.

 

 

Blame Darthe imo.

[alannalynn]

 

 

Zander the lol man.... it's NOT THAT FUNNY

Zander now has a post restriction that says he has to say lol in every single post.

 

Can I get this mod confirmed?

I will edit every post until I get mk

 

Please don't, that would be very anti town of you, and we need all the townies we can get.

 

[seph]

 

 

 

 

Which cemented my read on him obviously.

 which was wrong obv and you let him get to you so much (or knew he was town) that you couldn't/wouldn't get off it. hence why i mentioned it.  and dude the not being at you or casing you argument is gonna sink you when you iso'd by everyone. its a joke its been commented on by others before as well. are you just trolling now?

I'm not trolling. I never do.That my read was probably wrong on him (I'm still not quite sure Durin was town btw) is mostly his fault.And no you've never cased me. Give me a case and I'll explain/refute your points one by one. Otherwise just stop sniping at me.

 I'd hate to see you actually troll, Salami.

Pretty sure I'm playing a decent game but thanks for all the nice compliments Womby.FTR, I really am not 100% sure on Darthe.

There is no way durin was mafia, please stop with that speculation

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

Which cemented my read on him obviously.

 

which was wrong obv and you let him get to you so much (or knew he was town) that you couldn't/wouldn't get off it. hence why i mentioned it.  and dude the not being at you or casing you argument is gonna sink you when you iso'd by everyone. its a joke its been commented on by others before as well.

 

are you just trolling now?

 

I'm not trolling. I never do.

 

That my read was probably wrong on him (I'm still not quite sure Durin was town btw) is mostly his fault.

 

And no you've never cased me. Give me a case and I'll explain/refute your points one by one. Otherwise just stop sniping at me.

 

 

I'd hate to see you actually troll, Salami.

 

Pretty sure I'm playing a decent game but thanks for all the nice compliments Womby.

FTR, I really am not 100% sure on Darthe.

 

 

You should be at least 98% sure imo.

[Hallia]

I wouldn't mk him if he begged me to

 

LOL

[Sili Quirrels]

Old reads list:

 

 

My list

 

AlannaZander

Shad

HeartEldrick

Wombrej

Seph

Sili

Sooh

Dice

Csarmik

NotbobTalya

YatesVerbane

 

 

 

Updated list:AlannaZander

Seph

Shad

Notbob

HeartEldrick

TalyaWomdrej

Yates

SiliCsarmiSooh

Dice

 

This is kinda where I am at right now. The top greens are all basically confirmed, so leave them alone. I'm mostly certain on Eldrick/Talya. The next set (and Csarmi) are clear for now, I suppose. I'm willing to call Yates/Andrej t/t atm unless one of them slips. Sooh and Dice are for tomorrow.

I am not orange.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Zander the lol man.... it's NOT THAT FUNNY

Zander now has a post restriction that says he has to say lol in every single post.

 

Can I get this mod confirmed?

I will edit every post until I get mk

 

Please don't, that would be very anti town of you, and we need all the townies we can get.

 

 

 

 

i agree with Alanna....lolololol

[seph]

There is so many clear townies and I love it.

I want to wave with laine!!!!!