Alien mafia [BASIC] - Game Over - Town won

[Aiel Heart]

Just out of curiosity, NotBob

 

could be as simple as ah, hallia, and dae.

 

book it.

 

AH is prolly town...the others i could see.

 

Where did this read of yours come from (for me and Hallia)?

[Hallia]

My list changes based on responses and available information. Being flexible is important.

[Talya]

Talya I'm pretty convinced about the wolves being in Sooh shad or Hally. Anyone past that looks better and is in a different tier

 

I actually like that list.

 

It's not the changes it's the lack of reasoning behind the changes Hally that bother me, why have you changed your mind...what posts have caused it?

[Talya]

After my ISO on Sooh I'm going to go that way

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

[Hallia]

I'm pretty sure I link the quote that makes me change my mind if its not like the very next post from said quote - which in particular are you curious about?

[Talya]

I was wondering why you thought Notbob was wolf...Maybe do a run down on your list on why you have put them where you have. It would help us understand where you are coming from. Prove to me you are town...(yes doing a Darthe here :p)

[Aiel Heart]

post #522 was at Darthe.

 

@ AH - that is so much better to read, thank you

It's also easier to analyze when you have more actual content to work with :P

 

And I need to get ready for work now so I'm going to finish synthesizing later because I feel like the last few pages need more than just a breeze over, especially because there is so much about Shad and Sooh, who are the two remaining from my previous scum list (lifting this from my current WoT in progress: "Verbal being town and his comments on Talya combined with how Talya responded under pressure makes me feel better about her, so I’ll lift her from the scum list for now.")

 

 

Darthe, I don't care if you're not invested in this game yet, you are not helping town with your behavior, and it's getting irritating. Now give me a reason to trust you!

 

Hallia, can I have reasons with your leans list?

 

I like NotBob, and I'm not sure why. The interactions with NotBob, Sili and Darthe have been interesting because of all of the pop corning, though Sili has posted a little more content than the others.

 

BLAAAAAH be back later

[Aiel Heart]

Really weird that I mentioned NotBob and the two posts that ninja'd me also mentioned him o.O will need to figure out why that was later

 

Ok actually leaving now!

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Vote Count

 

 

Dae (6) - Verbs, Notbob, Sili, Shad, Laine, Talya

Talya (4) - Dae, Heart, Hallia, Darthe

Darthe (1) - Sooh

 

 

With six votes, Daetirion has been lynched!  Write up incoming.

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

Eldrick (7) - Laine, Darthe, Sili, Notbob, Verb, Daetirion, Talya

Darthe (2) - Eldrick, Shad

Verbie (1) - Yates

 

Not voting - Hallia, Aiel <3, Sooh

 

With 7 votes, Eldrick has been lynched.

 

From the wagonomics I see three players without blood on their hands...they avoided both lynch trains...more than likely we have at least one scum from Hallia, Aiel and Sooh.

 

Vote Hallia

[alannalynn]

Hallia why so many null in post 508? You have AH, Sooh, Darthe. I'm leaning scum on the first two, hoping for town on the latter

Let's see what I have... I need to go back and ISO maybe later tonight once I've slept, but quick reads

Alanna
Sili
Talya

Darthe
Hallia

NotBob

Shad

Heart
Sooh

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

You make some good points regarding Tal.

 

Town:

Laine

Shad

 

Probably Town:

Talya

Sili 

 

Null:

AH

Sooh

Darthe

 

Scum:

NotBob

 

That's what I've got at the moment.

 

No.  But thanks for the confidence vote.  

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Vote Count

 

Eldrick (5) - Laine, Darthe, Sili, Notbob, Verb

Darthe (2) - Eldrick, Shad

Verbie (1) - Yates

 

Not voting - Daetirion, Hallia, Aiel <3, Sooh, Talya

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

 

DEADLINE - NOON Tuesday EDT (roughly 25 hours from now)

 

At least two scum within the bolded group.

 

 

Something Notbob posted during the Eld lynch. Dae we already know. so he got one right

 

 

Scum like to avoid contact.   Your ability to hammer not once but twice puts you squarely in my town pile.  

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Just out of curiosity, NotBob

 

could be as simple as ah, hallia, and dae.

 

book it.

 

AH is prolly town...the others i could see.

 

Where did this read of yours come from (for me and Hallia)?

 

 

Just prior to this you had posted a solid reads listed that looked like you had put a little effort into it.  I didn't see the same effort from the posts of Hallia or Dae.  You still have clean hands so you've moved a little in my current reads list.  Scum hunters always get a little dirty trying to search  while hidden scum like to avoid contact at least in the early stages.  

[Darthe]

Heart you'll never fully trust me, you know that.

[Shad_]

 

It means he's thinking a lot about what wolf him will do. I think he's overestimating himself, and it might be villagery.

Maybe. I saw you had feelers out on Darthe. What about him stands out to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

It means he's thinking a lot about what wolf him will do. I think he's overestimating himself, and it might be villagery.

Maybe. I saw you had feelers out on Darthe. What about him stands out to you?

 

he hasn't progressed his reads since early on. it's pretty tiltling.

 

I just ISOed him. There's not much in there to help us solve anything. No theories or anything, just a lot of finger pointing. I don't like that. I should think that Darthe was able to point out good things about his suspects and not just reiterate that he thinks they are wolves. The lack of solving leads me to believe Darthe is a wolf, and I have read him correctly before...

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

 

When I'm digging through back pages I'm not actively keeping up with new posts and replying too.  ISOed him and voted in six minutes?  I don't know about this.  I'd be more comfortable if she said she'd had bad feelings about him all along than if she claimed an ISO.  I don't disagree with what she's saying, but the timing is funny.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Sooh (1) - Talya

Hallia (1) - Notbob

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

[Aiel Heart]

Heart you'll never fully trust me, you know that.

Yes, but I'm Heartbroken that you're not even trying! (BROKEN I tell you)

 

 

Btw, had needed to leave early to get my roommate to work and then was going to try to do things here while I was waiting for my work to actually start, but I've spent most of this time fighting with the wifi. Let's see how much I get done in the next ten minutes...

[Aiel Heart]

...

Just prior to this you had posted a solid reads listed that looked like you had put a little effort into it.  I didn't see the same effort from the posts of Hallia or Dae.  You still have clean hands so you've moved a little in my current reads list.  Scum hunters always get a little dirty trying to search  while hidden scum like to avoid contact at least in the early stages.  

 

Oh and read and accepted 

[Aiel Heart]

Talya, I like your anecdotes on everyone, and I have read them and think I understand what you are implying in each of them, but just to be sure I'm certain on where you lie, can you put your feelings into a leans list for me?

[Darthe]

But I am trying I'm just laid back

[Aiel Heart]

Need to go *sigh* so back to my original statement that I'll be back after work. 

[Aiel Heart]

But I am trying I'm just laid back

[Talya]

But I am trying I'm just laid back

He's Horizontal...

 

Ok AH give me a few

[Darthe]

let's be honest, my reads are going to be immaculate when I get around to them

[Talya]

I expect nothing less than perfection..

 

A few changes

 

Sili - He has flitted around in his votes, and this made me unsure on how to read him, but since Day 2 I'm starting to warm to him. He explained his flitting votes and I can see where he is coming from. - TOWN READ

 

Darthe - I get the feeling he is a little bit bored with the game, I think he prefers much faster paced games. He does pop in some words of wisdom and I'm waiting for the wow from him.  There is that small doubt and I'm wary, but not from anything he has says, but just because I'm worried I will rely on him and he'll let me down. I'm leaning more town

 at present - SLIGHT TOWN READ

 

Ok... Here are some of my thoughts so far. 

 

Dae seems towny to me for having some good observations on the gameplay. 

 

Alannalynn also seems towny to me for good town process and just pointing out things. 

 

 

I'm on the fence with Eldrick. I know he has rolled mafia like the majority of his games that I've played with him, but from his gameplay so far I don't know what to believe. It was a strange vote/reaction on Verb. Like you've all pointed out, it has more to do with his comments after than the actual vote during the catching up phase. 

 

Heart feels a bit like she did in Middle Earth when she was mafia. I can't really pinpoint why. It's more a feeling right now. 

 

I feel about Talya like I do with Heart, but I felt like Talya was mafia in Middle Earth and she wasn't.

rese

 

Notbob - Felt he was sheeping to begin with. He jumped on Darthe's vote at the beginning of Day 2 thinking he was roled. His post recently has also had me leaning town now, rather than null - SLIGHT TOWN READ

 

Alanna -  I flip flop with Alanna every game I'm in (this is the third). what makes me feel slight wolf lean, was D2 when she had put both me and Dae as her top wolves and yet when things were heating up she didn't seem to want to vote either of us. She then voted Dae, and that then flipped her more back to town. so at present VERY SLIGHT TOWN READ

 

Heart - The discrepancy I thought I had seen in her posts made me think she was defending Dae. But as pointed out by Heart and Shad, I realised I was wrong there. I find her recent posts better to read and she has picked up her game giving more opinions than before, since a prod to. Because of this O don't have a great town read on her. She didn't vote Day 1, so she is an -  EVEN MORE A SLIGHT TOWN

 

Shad - I'm putting aside the alt stuff, it was distracting me. He seems to have been on at Darthe since Day 1. I don't always agree with his reads (more at the beginning). He was adamant that Eld was town (like Dae) doesn't automatically make him wolf as well...he didn't turn and flip his vote, which is to his favour. His play seems to have improved and I have agreed more with what he has been saying. Could he have been coached some on a QT? He is more here because I believe he is linked to Sooh and I believe she maybe wolf. - SLIGHT WOLF

 

Hallia - she hasn't been on much all game, her first real post was after day one and didn't have much to say on anything, just me and Alanna (in fact this was D2), but she likes Sooh. she votes me (didn't vote D1), she has come in with some reads.

After the lynch of Dae, she says that it doesn't clear me, but happier about Alanna, then she says it makes me a little les likely mafia and now I've moved up to Prob town. There have been no explanations on what is going on her mind about her changes.

Now NotBob is her top wolf, and when asked she says "My list changes based on responses and available information. Being flexible is important." followed by "I'm pretty sure I link the quote that makes me change my mind if its not like the very next post from said quote - which in particular are you curious about?" Not sure what she means here, me and AH have now asked for more explanations she seems to be avoiding things. - WOLF

 

Sooh - At the start she had a good feeling about Dae being town, but later her views were more like she was grasping at finding a reason, it sounded a bit reluctant. she had 3 scum in her list. Darthe Hallia and Shad. Dae was a Null/slight scum from being towny. There wasn't the build up to the change there. I wasn't really getting wolf until I reread some posts today and I found her too focused on Darthe D11 and into D2. There was no transition from Towny Dae to Null/slight scum Dae. She has also had Shad in her sights as being her other wolf and Hallia. I also got the feeling that if needed she was going to vote Dae (I know I can't prove it). I realised after that her unvote of Darthe came after the hammer. She doesn't seem to be really hunting Wolves. - WOLF

 

I believe that is everyone.

 

I could go just as easily for Hallia lynch today as well.