American Gods Mafia [Advanced] - mafia win

[Darthe]

 

Weighed it out. Going balls deep

 

FULL CLAIM: MR. JACQUEL, CORONER

 

I've really held off on this because it can burn us but I think AJ is going to take this game otherwise. At worst I draw the NK and it confirms me and outs AJ. Turin if your role is true don't protect me, idk if you can RB my power.

 

The coroner is passive ftr. I don't think there is any way that AJ makes his above certainty arguments, completely excluding seph/dice, unless he KNOWs alignments at this point.

Yeah, you're over selling now. Let's claim a passive role at Night that can't be vetted and gets NK'd never in this current situation. Again - telegraphing.

 

If Dice/Wombat aren't masons together then we're borked as it is. I also believe Seph is a villager. I buy his claim, believe in his WIM and I think how Sili handled him early doesn't indicate wolfy distancing unlike the interactions you two had.

 

You may as well post lolcats, you're literally copying arguments clov just made in our 3er a bit ago.  By your logic I should never claim my role but that isn't beneficial to our team, it's convenient for you.  That's the only value of withholding a claim.  Wolves have two clear people in Wombat/Dice (thought Wombat/Seph for a while there but that's not right) to contend with and you're trying to lock this game despite not being clear.  At this point I know 2/3 of you turin and seph are wolves and based solely on the numbers if I am faking this as a wolf I cannot win.  

 

How do you imagine this one shows me to be a wolf AJ?  

[Andrej]

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

[seph]

aj I have a question.
If you think darthe has been floating the entire game, then why when I pushed him day 1 for like 5 pages would you put him as a null.

[seph]

I don't remember if you even agreed with me until day 2.
I will have to check that out tomorrow.

[Darthe]

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

Right because had I hammered Thane it would have made me a wolf if he flipped town for hammering him, if he was a wolf for bussing him, and now I'm a wolf for not hammering.

 

AJ you've played well but I've got you now.  All I have to do is figure out how to show the others.

[Andrej]

Because Darthe wasn't getting lynched D1. You need to build evidence against him. Allow him to play and essentially force him to out himself like he has. Look at his direction this game. He very pointedly made it about you until it became clear I would hammer Thane and then dropped a chump vote on Turin.

[Darthe]

The narrative is very obvious btw. I declare intent to hammer on a villager. Turin is already on the wagon for ~reasons. He begins to try tying me to Sili with some big tinfoil plot about a bussing gambit. I hammer the townie. Suddenly Darthe (the other wolf) now believes it's me, but more notably, with Seph and not Turin who he previously stated would be lynched after Thane "ftw"

 

Don't fall for it.

The only narrative present here is the one you create in this post.  I have one target tomorrow and it isn't Seph and it isn't Turin, I'll figure them out after I take out you and pull this game back together

[WWWwombat]

FML

[Darthe]

 

 

Silence is killer right now.

Darthe pretty obviously avoided that hammer like the plague. I thought it was because Thane would flip wolf.

Note how Turin is pressing for the hammer there. That's my bad, should've stayed put.

Like how does this even make sense? You thought I was avoiding hammering because Thane was a wolf and thus that made me a wolf but then Thane flipped town and you still think it equates to me being a wolf? What?

Also pinged by the "Should've stayed put" throwaway line at Turin after you stated intent to hammer all day.

It makes sense from my previous and new perspective. As Thane's teammate you obviously weren't going to hammer and kill your partner in that situation. You very neatly tailed around Seph and then swapped to Turin later with essentially a throw away vote. Thane flipping villager here changes the motive of your actions but instead of protecting a teammate you were avoiding the blood on your hands. You knew that when Thane flipped his wagon would come under scrutiny and now that I've hammered - guess what? I'm the sudden deep wolf in your POE. Way to telegraph dude lol

What's wolfy about it? Turin was clearly baiting me.

 

 

The narrative is very obvious btw. I declare intent to hammer on a villager. Turin is already on the wagon for ~reasons. He begins to try tying me to Sili with some big tinfoil plot about a bussing gambit. I hammer the townie. Suddenly Darthe (the other wolf) now believes it's me, but more notably, with Seph and not Turin who he previously stated would be lynched after Thane "ftw"

Don't fall for it.

 

Tomorrow is Lylo unless the wolves wanna pull some fancy play and holster tonight so Turin can claim to have "jailed" me when day breaks and no one is dead. In this case they risk having to get me lynched and instead would win the following Night with their kill.

Big risk but not something I would put past them either.

Anyway - my point being that tomorrow town has to lynch a wolf or we lose. We actually have to lynch two in a row or lose. This sudden shift of suspicion onto me is not surprising since the wolves feasibily have the win in their grasp. Add in the fact it's from two players who have already been down in the POE most of the game and I think you should be able to see the connection.

The only way it's not Turin and Darthe is if one of Wombat/Dice aren't masons. I would lose this game before I vote Seph, that's how strong me read is there. I wish I would've stuck with my read on Thane as well.

And yet you're accusing me of rhetoric 

 

 

I think I'm ready to hammer.

 

I'll hammer before I leave for work in about 30 mins. Any objections? Likely won't be around tonight at all barring maybe a short post or two.

Gonna go see Jurassic World 

 

And yet you're blaming turin for the hammer and complaining that I don't see you two as W/W.

 

 

 

Lost internal consistency since my claim and basically had nowhere else to run to because you lost your intended mislynch.  Sometimes that's the game AJ, well played to this point

[seph]

I will be on tomorrow, I am going to see Jurassic. World

[Darthe]

Have fun at the movie and AJ how'd you like it?

[Andrej]

I'm at the theatre now. We'll see how the NAs shake out

 

See you all in the AM

[Turin Turambar]

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

My posts using D1 evidence was to show how you were taking credit as pushing Sili all of D1 when that was clearly not the case. You deny you said you were pushing him all of D1? All I did was show that wasn't the case at all. Funny how you saw that evidence is outdated. Like it ceases to exist once it i the next day. All the thread is there to be looked at. 

 

My vote wasn't "parked". I had my suspicions and I voted with them. I have my suspicions on you too. I also have suspicions of Darthe. I still haven't gotten to go thru all of his posts yet. I will try to do that tonight. 

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

Case on me can be summed as Darthe looks devious.

 

Lynching Turin ftw tomorrow, I think we got this

Wasn't even the case. Just an early impression. I haven't got thru to the rest yet. 

 

I got pulled back here based on current thread discussions. 

 

How many times you gonna say you are gonna hammer AJ? I think it has been 3 or 4 now. #brokenpromises

 

 I wouldn't mind going to see a film just to be in the free AC for a couple of hours. ( about 95 currently )

 

 

Laters.  I got a date.

 

Wolfy

 

Also, I thought she lived in England?

 

The internet isn't just for mafia.  

 

 

 

Now get your mind out of the gutter.

[WWWwombat]

Bloodninja copypasta imo.

[Darthe]

AND WE WAIT

[Andrej]

 

 

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

My posts using D1 evidence was to show how you were taking credit as pushing Sili all of D1 when that was clearly not the case. You deny you said you were pushing him all of D1? All I did was show that wasn't the case at all. Funny how you saw that evidence is outdated. Like it ceases to exist once it i the next day. All the thread is there to be looked at.

 

My vote wasn't "parked". I had my suspicions and I voted with them. I have my suspicions on you too. I also have suspicions of Darthe. I still haven't gotten to go thru all of his posts yet. I will try to do that tonight.

Blah blah blah.

 

Blah blah.

 

You're a wolf dude, let's cut to the chase. We both know if I'm alive come Day break you are going to vote me so you can drop the front about your "suspicions"

 

On the note of highlighting that I falsely pushed Sili D1, while you were doing your research did you find anyone else mentioning or questioning Sili in the manner I did? Probably not. But continue to spin this narrative that I bussed him intentionally to clear myself while neglecting the events of D2.

[Andrej]

 

 

The narrative is very obvious btw. I declare intent to hammer on a villager. Turin is already on the wagon for ~reasons. He begins to try tying me to Sili with some big tinfoil plot about a bussing gambit. I hammer the townie. Suddenly Darthe (the other wolf) now believes it's me, but more notably, with Seph and not Turin who he previously stated would be lynched after Thane "ftw"

 

Don't fall for it.

The only narrative present here is the one you create in this post. I have one target tomorrow and it isn't Seph and it isn't Turin, I'll figure them out after I take out you and pull this game back together

Wasn't it you who told Seph that by now he should be able to remove one townie from the pool of 4 to find the wolf team? Funny that you'd decide I am your target for tomorrow and that you still need to figure out the other two. Good show though.

 

On the merit of your claim, I'm calling BS. What was really the point of you claiming in the manner you did? There's no tangible evidence that you can prove with it and at best it implies that your death will cease to give us coroner reports. Again - calling BS on that. To me you claiming in the manner you did is a preemptive excuse for the reason you're alive when Day comes.

[Andrej]

 

 

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

Right because had I hammered Thane it would have made me a wolf if he flipped town for hammering him, if he was a wolf for bussing him, and now I'm a wolf for not hammering.

 

AJ you've played well but I've got you now. All I have to do is figure out how to show the others.

Your bravado is fake here. You realize that by me hammering that I have put myself in a bad position and you and Turin are clearly hoping to capitalize on it. The manner in which you avoided the wagon is telling and your tidbit about Thane being a mislynch clearly comes from TMI.

 

Good luck.

[Andrej]

Jurassic World was awesome btw. I'll see you all in the morning

[Darthe]

The narrative is very obvious btw. I declare intent to hammer on a villager. Turin is already on the wagon for ~reasons. He begins to try tying me to Sili with some big tinfoil plot about a bussing gambit. I hammer the townie. Suddenly Darthe (the other wolf) now believes it's me, but more notably, with Seph and not Turin who he previously stated would be lynched after Thane "ftw"

 

Don't fall for it.

So here it is that I am not going at the other two that makes me a wolf

 

 

 

The narrative is very obvious btw. I declare intent to hammer on a villager. Turin is already on the wagon for ~reasons. He begins to try tying me to Sili with some big tinfoil plot about a bussing gambit. I hammer the townie. Suddenly Darthe (the other wolf) now believes it's me, but more notably, with Seph and not Turin who he previously stated would be lynched after Thane "ftw"

 

Don't fall for it.

The only narrative present here is the one you create in this post. I have one target tomorrow and it isn't Seph and it isn't Turin, I'll figure them out after I take out you and pull this game back together

Wasn't it you who told Seph that by now he should be able to remove one townie from the pool of 4 to find the wolf team? Funny that you'd decide I am your target for tomorrow and that you still need to figure out the other two. Good show though.

 

On the merit of your claim, I'm calling BS. What was really the point of you claiming in the manner you did? There's no tangible evidence that you can prove with it and at best it implies that your death will cease to give us coroner reports. Again - calling BS on that. To me you claiming in the manner you did is a preemptive excuse for the reason you're alive when Day comes.

 

Yet here it's that I am trying to figure out the other two that makes me a wolf.  

 

Also in what universe was I ever going to be the NK tonight?  My claim comes specifically because it can draw the NK and that will leave you without a mislynch and still with (Wombat and Dice, is that confirmed?) to contend with.  If I get lynched tomorrow we lose so it's necessary that I do everything to clear myself by then.  

[Darthe]

 

 

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

Right because had I hammered Thane it would have made me a wolf if he flipped town for hammering him, if he was a wolf for bussing him, and now I'm a wolf for not hammering.

 

AJ you've played well but I've got you now. All I have to do is figure out how to show the others.

Your bravado is fake here. You realize that by me hammering that I have put myself in a bad position and you and Turin are clearly hoping to capitalize on it. The manner in which you avoided the wagon is telling and your tidbit about Thane being a mislynch clearly comes from TMI.

 

Good luck.

 

Hammering didn't put you in a worse position.  Thane flipping town did, you ran out of slots.  Lol @ the way I secretly avoided the train being bad on me.  I couldn't have been more transparent or open about not taking the hammer which you called like a day before but it's the only spin you've got.

[BFG]

Good morning, deadline in roughly 11 hours or when all actions have been received.

[BFG]

Deadline in roughly 8.5 hours or when all actions have been received.

[Andrej]

Also in what universe was I ever going to be the NK tonight? My claim comes specifically because it can draw the NK and that will leave you without a mislynch and still with (Wombat and Dice, is that confirmed?) to contend with. If I get lynched tomorrow we lose so it's necessary that I do everything to clear myself by then.

You weren't and still aren't. Firstly because you're a wolf but secondly even with your "claim" it doesn't make you a priority. From an objective standpoint you aren't worth the kill in this situation because your role is passive and can't be vetted without you dying. Your motive wasn't to clear you and draw a NK. It's to get out ahead of the rush to give yourself a plausible explanation why you weren't targeted over a pair that can vouche one another as confirmed villagers.

 

There was no point to your claim in that situation from a villager standpoint.